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Cheney and Bush Declare Autonomous Dictatorial Powers
Exempt themselves from executive branch

Prison Planet | June 25, 2007
Steve Watson

The Vice President and the President have casually declared their offices to be independent of the executive branch and completely autonomous, with Dick Cheney also attempting to abolish agencies his office is supposed to be accountable to.

Last week the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform reported:

Vice President Cheney exempted his office from the presidential order that establishes government-wide procedures for safeguarding classified national security information. The Vice President asserts that his office is not an “entity within the executive branch.”

As described in a letter from Chairman Waxman to the Vice President, the National Archives protested the Vice President's position in letters written in June 2006 and August 2006. When these letters were ignored, the National Archives wrote to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in January 2007 to seek a resolution of the impasse. The Vice President's staff responded by seeking to abolish the agency within the Archives that is responsible for implementing the President's executive order.

In his letter to the Vice President, Chairman Waxman writes: "I question both the legality and wisdom of your actions. ... t would appear particularly irresponsible to give an office with your history of security breaches an exemption from the safeguards that apply to all other executive branch officials."
The documents released by the committee reveal that Cheney's office has not cooperated with an office at the National Archives and Records Administration which is responsible for overseeing the protection of classified material by the executive branch.

As the Washington Post further reported , Cheney's staff have consistently declared themselves above the law by not filing reports on their possession of classified data and even blocking an inspection of their office in 2004. The documents also reveal that after the Archives office demanded cooperation earlier this year, Cheney's staff proposed eliminating it altogether.

While Cheney has declared his office outside of the executive branch he has continued to receive funding from the bill that funds the
executive branch. Instead of challenging Cheney's absurd declaration of autonomy, House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel is now seeking an amendment to the Financial Services and General
Government Appropriations bill in order to cut the funding to Cheney's office and thus legally separate it from the executive branch.

"The Vice President has a choice to make. If he believes his legal
case, his office has no business being funded as part of the executive
branch. However, if he demands executive branch funding he cannot
ignore executive branch rules. At the very least, the Vice President
should be consistent." Emanuel has said.

In addition to Cheney's office declaring itself exempt from oversight, President Bush's office has also claimed it has the same status.

The LA Times reported :

An executive order that Bush issued in March 2003 — amending an existing order — requires all government agencies that are part of the executive branch to submit to oversight. Although it doesn't specifically say so, Bush's order was not meant to apply to the vice president's office or the president's office, a White House spokesman said.
It has now become chillingly clear that the President and the Vice President believe that they have absolute power over the Government of the United States and cannot be held accountable to anybody.

Previously Dick Cheney has declared both himself and Bush unaccountable to Congress , stating last year that "vice president and president and constitutional officers don't appear before the Congress.”

It is also now clear that Bush and Cheney have broken literally hundreds of laws because they see themselves as outside of them. Last April the Boston Globe reported :

President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.

Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems, ''whistle-blower" protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.
The Constitution assigns power to Congress to write the laws and asserts that the president has an obligation ''to take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Bush, however, has repeatedly declared that he does not need to ''execute" a law he believes is unconstitutional.

Take the "torture ban", which was approved last year, for example. After approving the bill, Bush issued a ''signing statement " giving his own interpretation of what the law meant and giving him the right to bypass it if he so wished.

Bush and Cheney are vastly expanding Presidential power and creating provisions that set their offices up as dictatorial bodies.

Just last month new legislation was signed which declares that in the event of a "catastrophic event", the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.

The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive , which also places the Secretary of Homeland Security in charge of domestic "security", was signed on May 9th without the approval or oversight of Congress and seemingly supercedes the National Emergency Act which allows the president to declare a national emergency but also requires that Congress have the authority to "modify, rescind, or render dormant" such emergency authority if it believes the president has acted inappropriately.

Journalist Jerome Corsi , who has studied the directive also states that it makes no reference to Congress and "its language appears to negate any requirement that the president submit to Congress a determination that a national emergency exists."

In other words the new directive excludes Congress altogether from governance in a state of emergency.

While alluding to the "enduring constitutional government", the directive actually ensures the end of constitutional government as each branch, the executive, legislative and judicial, are stripped of equal authority and must answer directly and solely to the President.

 http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/dicatorship_cheney_bush_declare_autonomous_dictatorial_powers.htm

 

COMMENT: Dictatorship seems to be here, what fony desaster will be used to attack us in a state of emergency.




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The country needs strong leaders, and sometimes it's necessary to set aside the "strict interpretation" of the Constitution in order to act in the best interests of the citizens.




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1jester wrote: The country needs strong leaders, and sometimes it's necessary to set aside the "strict interpretation" of the Constitution in order to act in the best interests of the citizens.
WHAT?




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We elected these gentlemen, and we should give them the ability to govern, don't you think?




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They should be locked away in a prison, with you as their inmate.

Some people I guess are so weak that they feel they must have someone to govern every thing they do, you should move to the UK with ninja, you'd fit right in.

I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing! Yes, we DID elect these morons as our leaders, but what did THEY do? they gave an OATH to uphold the Constitution!!! They have ONE JOB, and thats to protect our RIGHTS, to obey the Constitution to the LETTER, these are mere people, extremists who think they are above the constitution. No one person, not even a group of people, are above the Constitution. It's our only protection against tyranny. But I guess thats what you want, tyranny. I can understand people who are leaders wanting that... as long as they have the power... but why on Earth would someone want to be governed by such lawless men? What joy is there in life to be a slave? That is after all what you are, and what you WANT to be! Thus, I am baffled.

Hey ninja... take this post and add your stupid comments to it again, it'll be great fun! sure what you say wont make sense, or even very well pertain to what I've actually said, but your minions will come and laugh at you, or with rather. "ah ha ha, ah ha ha, look Ninja said something, I bet its funny! look at all the laughing emoticons he used, that HAS to be funny! Sure, I can't read, but I can see the funny faces, I better have my writer write good things about Ninja and his wit! I mean honestly, no one uses emoticons like he does!"

Go on, you know you're gonna reply to everything I say, then I am going to look at it, then likely ignore it as it will be rubbish (thats an english word you can understand right) and move on... you will think yourself clever, and I will think you stupider than ever... Ah what a wonderful relationship we have sweet princess.

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What they are doing is HIGH TREASON. There are 3 count them 3 branches of government not 4. I think that I will need to get some pocket constitutions and send a few to the white house as well as too congress.

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1jester wrote: We elected these gentlemen, and we should give them the ability to govern, don't you think?No, they have committed high treason with not upholding Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution, in a time of war.  That is a hanging offense.  Hang them now!!!!!
You go down the line of succession and find more of the same, until finally there is someone who has upheld the Constitution always---Ron Paul.  There are a few others.  I'm not sure who would actually be first in line and accept the Presidency.
 
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Hi Rob,is it not amazing that all the new world order politicians all over the world wants to become dictators, whichever country they are from.As if steered by some hidden hand to do the same thing.A zealous drive to change things.

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JasonAMrtn wrote: What joy is there in life to be a slave? Job security?




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:haha:JasonAMrtn wrote: They should be locked away in a prison, with you as their inmate.

Some people I guess are so weak that they feel they must have someone to govern every thing they do, you should move to the UK with ninja, you'd fit right in.

I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing! Yes, we DID elect these morons as our leaders, but what did THEY do? they gave an OATH to uphold the Constitution!!! They have ONE JOB, and thats to protect our RIGHTS, to obey the Constitution to the LETTER, these are mere people, extremists who think they are above the constitution. No one person, not even a group of people, are above the Constitution. It's our only protection against tyranny. But I guess thats what you want, tyranny. I can understand people who are leaders wanting that... as long as they have the power... but why on Earth would someone want to be governed by such lawless men? What joy is there in life to be a slave? That is after all what you are, and what you WANT to be! Thus, I am baffled.

Hey ninja... take this post and add your stupid comments to it again, it'll be great fun! sure what you say wont make sense, or even very well pertain to what I've actually said, but your minions will come and laugh at you, or with rather. "ah ha ha, ah ha ha, look Ninja said something, I bet its funny! look at all the laughing emoticons he used, that HAS to be funny! Sure, I can't read, but I can see the funny faces, I better have my writer write good things about Ninja and his wit! I mean honestly, no one uses emoticons like he does!"

Go on, you know you're gonna reply to everything I say, then I am going to look at it, then likely ignore it as it will be rubbish (thats an english word you can understand right) and move on... you will think yourself clever, and I will think you stupider than ever... Ah what a wonderful relationship we have sweet princess.


What ?.................::rotfl::

Come again ?................:lmao:

Sweet princess ?........if you want me to "dress up" for you, you only had to say. I'm sure my girlfriend will help me shop for something flattering I can wear for you to.....you know ?...achieve whats.......needed ? if you are that way inclined ? :dunno:

As for replying to you...well you invited me in !:yep: my interest in this particular topic was minimal, however your on topic reply to the thread in question paled into insignificance to the little adolescent diatribe you decided to embark on within the same post ! Is that because you were unable to post a reposte to a reply I submitted to you in another thread perhaps ? 

No matter, perhaps next time don't flick the bull on the nose and then open the door to the china shop, yeah ?

Sorry, I almost forgot ! Emoticons !

::peace::::thumbs:::banana:::popcorn:::P

  

    

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1jester wrote: JasonAMrtn wrote: What joy is there in life to be a slave? Job security?

:lmao:YOU KILL ME..............Job security!  If I didn't know you were kidding, I'd have hurt you!  ::rotfl::  ::bat::




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cynicalninja wrote: :haha:JasonAMrtn wrote: They should be locked away in a prison, with you as their inmate.

Some people I guess are so weak that they feel they must have someone to govern every thing they do, you should move to the UK with ninja, you'd fit right in.

I honestly can't believe what I'm hearing! Yes, we DID elect these morons as our leaders, but what did THEY do? they gave an OATH to uphold the Constitution!!! They have ONE JOB, and thats to protect our RIGHTS, to obey the Constitution to the LETTER, these are mere people, extremists who think they are above the constitution. No one person, not even a group of people, are above the Constitution. It's our only protection against tyranny. But I guess thats what you want, tyranny. I can understand people who are leaders wanting that... as long as they have the power... but why on Earth would someone want to be governed by such lawless men? What joy is there in life to be a slave? That is after all what you are, and what you WANT to be! Thus, I am baffled.

Hey ninja... take this post and add your stupid comments to it again, it'll be great fun! sure what you say wont make sense, or even very well pertain to what I've actually said, but your minions will come and laugh at you, or with rather. "ah ha ha, ah ha ha, look Ninja said something, I bet its funny! look at all the laughing emoticons he used, that HAS to be funny! Sure, I can't read, but I can see the funny faces, I better have my writer write good things about Ninja and his wit! I mean honestly, no one uses emoticons like he does!"

Go on, you know you're gonna reply to everything I say, then I am going to look at it, then likely ignore it as it will be rubbish (thats an english word you can understand right) and move on... you will think yourself clever, and I will think you stupider than ever... Ah what a wonderful relationship we have sweet princess.


What ?.................::rotfl::

Come again ?................:lmao:

Sweet princess ?........if you want me to "dress up" for you, you only had to say. I'm sure my girlfriend will help me shop for something flattering I can wear for you to.....you know ?...achieve whats.......needed ? if you are that way inclined ? :dunno:

As for replying to you...well you invited me in !:yep: my interest in this particular topic was minimal, however your on topic reply to the thread in question paled into insignificance to the little adolescent diatribe you decided to embark on within the same post ! Is that because you were unable to post a reposte to a reply I submitted to you in another thread perhaps ? 

No matter, perhaps next time don't flick the bull on the nose and then open the door to the china shop, yeah ?

Sorry, I almost forgot ! Emoticons !

::peace::::thumbs:::banana:::popcorn:::P

  

    


You're too predictable Ninja... come up with some new material, get a different play book. 
Wait, let me do that thing you always do....


:giantgrin:::sgrin:::rotfl:::LOL::::rotfl:::lmao:::chuckle::


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