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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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24HourNut wrote: Is there any way the world can unite in a much bigger way than it ever has in the past, without it being some evil conspiracy or deep negative? If so, what are those ways? Not really not as it sits now. The best idea was the USA original ideas, which could of grown if good men ruled but.... Right now the only powers that are able to unite the world, aren't doing it for the good of the people, but for themselves. The UN is said to be for peace, but its a product of the warmongers themselves. And another point too...the devil still runs the world today, his minons are the ones causing the trouble and offering "their" his solution....which is a lie.
 "...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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Lon wrote: Human beings could be much more united if there were NO RELIGIONS OF ANY KIND.    PS No Religion is a religion too.... ;)
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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Robodoon wrote: Lon wrote:Human beings could be much more united if there were NO RELIGIONS OF ANY KIND. If you equate no religion with religion, then it is clear: ALL religion is just subjective BS.
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24HourNut Administrator Body pillows rock!
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Robodoon wrote: 24HourNut wrote:Is there any way the world can unite in a much bigger way than it ever has in the past, without it being some evil conspiracy or deep negative? If so, what are those ways? So basically, anything that comes along that attempts to unify humans more, to help make us more peaceful, will automatically be met with charges of evil or conspiracy?
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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24HourNut wrote: Robodoon wrote:24HourNut wrote:Is there any way the world can unite in a much bigger way than it ever has in the past, without it being some evil conspiracy or deep negative? If so, what are those ways? Do you understand that the powers that are offering us peace today, are the powers that create the chaos your worried about? They have done this to get a top down model for control. People need Sovereignty not control. People also need morality for self control. Without morality only "Force" will work to "control" the people...and people need Sovereignty to use their morality to rule themselves without force. Wars aren't started by average joe, its started by powerful men who wish to rule the rest...who happen to be in this cause those that make the wars so they can offer "their" peace. As with the UN, the un doesn't mean peace when it says peace, it means "when our opposition is under our control, there will be peace"...they see tyranny as peace....but whats peaceful about tyranny to the people? They live in constaint fear. The answer the world is offering is a total top down system, where the people at the bottom have no say. This is not peace, this is slavery. We need a bottom up system, so the people can be sovereign and the government can't rule them with an iron hand.
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seekeroftruth Original500© Member
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Lon wrote: Human beings could be much more united if there were NO RELIGIONS OF ANY KIND. Like Russia?  
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24HourNut Administrator Body pillows rock!
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Robodoon wrote: 24HourNut wrote:Robodoon wrote:24HourNut wrote:Is there any way the world can unite in a much bigger way than it ever has in the past, without it being some evil conspiracy or deep negative? If so, what are those ways? So, that's a "yes" to my question, then?
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rosieisahippo Original500© Member  The government is not GOD!
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24HourNut wrote: Why do we have to unite so bad ? Do you feel the need to merge? I don't get it at all. It makes no sense at all to me. Unite and do what? I get along better on my own. Do you all (all of you "uniters") all have something against hermits or something? You should learn to be more tolerant.
I made that point on purpose. What if all of you "UNITERS" all "UNITE" and become "ONE"....then what will happen to those who disagree with you or won't join "THE PARTY"...sounds like Nazi Germany all over again. And who cares if you get along better on your own,this isn't about YOU. Oh but it is...you just stated that your UNITED GROUP is more important than the individual. >>Your fangs are starting to show Dracula. If I was the Devil How do we know you're not? And the Nazis did create their own religion by reviving old Nordic paganism and mixing it with modern new age mysticism and the racism it taught and by people advocating the same type of all religions are equally groovey mentality no less. If I choose to believe that pickles do not belong on pizza then that's my choice. But what you are advocating (or seem to be) is deciding that for me. NO THANKS.(no thanks= my choice,or would you like to take that choice away from me too?) But let me answer your question "Why do we have to unite so bad?" But we've heard it all before. Communism,Nazism,etc. It didn't turn out so great. So why hand over universal decision-making to those same people now when they were bankrolled by the west and now they've got their NEW NEW FINAL SOLUTION ready for us? 24HourNut wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:He has considered it Frank. Look at all the new multiple text-based organized religions after the writing of the bible. Actually it is you who is doing that. There are entire religions devoted to uniting all religions and uniting all the people on earth and you have clearly come down on the side where you feel that the government should establish a law respecting those particular religions which would 'prohibit the free exercise thereof' of all other religions and beliefs that were different or held different beliefs from the one you have chosen for everybody.
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24HourNut Administrator Body pillows rock!
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Rosie, you are acting like anything that unites humans more is evil and like Nazis. Shall I assume that you too can not imagine something that unites people for greater peace and harmony, that is not evil? Your accusation that I come down on the side where Government should establish a law respecting those religions is ABSURD. I don't think any organized religion should be respected by Government. Again, all I asked is if anything that united people more would be considered evil and the answer here seems to be yes. Evidently, you feel that NO EFFORT should be made to seriously unite people and make things more peaceful - correct? If not, what do you recommend be the uniting force for greater peace and cooperation?
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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24HourNut wrote: Robodoon wrote:Lon wrote:Human beings could be much more united if there were NO RELIGIONS OF ANY KIND. Not at all...point is All Religion isn't true. If all religion is true, none is. The Truth is the Truth....not everyone can be right. That idea of all being right (while the world attacks Christians) is flawed...and mistaken. The truth is not many things it is one thing...but in time it can be said in a few ways...but thats not what you're endorsing. "Is there no virtue among us? If there be not, we are in a wretched situation. No theoretical checks-no form of government can render us secure. To suppose that any form of government will secure liberty or happiness without any virtue in the people, is a chimerical idea, if there be sufficient virtue and intelligence in the community, it will be exercised in the selection of these men. So that we do not depend on their virtue, or put confidence in our rulers, but in the people who are to choose them." ~ James Madison, (speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 20 June 1788) Reference: The True Republican, French, ed. (28-29)
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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Robodoon wrote: Lon wrote:Human beings could be much more united if there were NO RELIGIONS OF ANY KIND. No it isn't. Attachment: (Downloaded times)
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24HourNut wrote: Rosie, you are acting like anything that unites humans more is evil and like Nazis. Shall I assume that you too can not imagine something that unites people for greater peace and harmony, that is not evil? I think Rosie will be too busy buying canned goods and ammo to stock up the bunker in preparation for judgement day to care about unity.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Without Jesus we fall short...
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Christ isn't feeling Frank. He is a historical fact. The bible has been around for awhile and keeps ticking. Men try to reduce it's credibility but it keeps standing like a rock pointing the world to Jesus and showing mankind the futility of trusting in self to repair sinfull self.
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Christ isn't feeling Frank. He is a historical fact. The bible has been around for awhile and keeps ticking. Men try to reduce it's credibility but it keeps standing like a rock pointing the world to Jesus and showing mankind the futility of trusting in self to repair sinfull self. Sorry, but Jesus being the special son of God with supernatural powers is not fact. It's faith, not fact. The Bible being the word of God is not fact - it's faith. Talking snakes, slugs teleporting to Arks, God issuing slave-beating and rape guidelines, God drowing babies, Loving God torturing people for all eternity in burning torment is not only NOT fact, it's faith and even delusion. Humans have been embellishing and making stuff up since the beginning. Text-based organized religions have every indication of being the same thing. You or anyone believing in something does not make it fact. It is your faith. It is your personal, subjective view and decision to believe whatever you feel like putting in your head. JBF's feelings, faith, views, club subscriptions do NOT equate to fact. Sorry. Anyway, if people want to pretend their particular faith is fact for all that is their problem or delusion, not mine. All I was asking is if there can be a way to unite people without something evil or conspiracy-based going on. p.s. CN - that cartoon is great! Drives home a good point very effectively!
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24HourNut wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:Christ isn't feeling Frank. He is a historical fact. The bible has been around for awhile and keeps ticking. Men try to reduce it's credibility but it keeps standing like a rock pointing the world to Jesus and showing mankind the futility of trusting in self to repair sinfull self. Yes, it is faith. Faith in the biblical accounts, faith in the eyewitness accounts, faith in the evidence of creation, faith in the changed life, faith in the miracles everyday in the world, faith in the love of God, faith in the hope that is not seen, faith in the 100s of fulfilled bible prophecy's to date, faith in Him coming again as He promised of which it is impossible for God to lie.
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