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Packs of robots will hunt down uncooperative humans
The latest request from the Pentagon jars the senses. At least, it did mine. They are looking for contractors to provide a "Multi-Robot Pursuit System" that will let packs of robots "search for and detect a non-cooperative human".

One thing that really bugs defence chiefs is having their troops diverted from other duties to control robots. So having a pack of them controlled by one person makes logistical sense. But I'm concerned about where this technology will end up.

Given that iRobot last year struck a deal with Taser International to mount stun weapons on its military robots, how long before we see packs of droids hunting down pesky demonstrators with paralysing weapons? Or could the packs even be lethally armed? I asked two experts on automated weapons what they thought - click the continue reading link to read what they said.
Both were concerned that packs of robots would be entrusted with tasks - and weapons - they were not up to handling without making wrong decisions.

Steve Wright of Leeds Metropolitan University is an expert on police and military technologies, and last year correctly predicted this pack-hunting mode of operation would happen. "The giveaway here is the phrase 'a non-cooperative human subject'," he told me:

"What we have here are the beginnings of something designed to enable robots to hunt down humans like a pack of dogs. Once the software is perfected we can reasonably anticipate that they will become autonomous and become armed.

We can also expect such systems to be equipped with human detection and tracking devices including sensors which detect human breath and the radio waves associated with a human heart beat. These are technologies already developed."
Another commentator often in the news for his views on military robot autonomy is Noel Sharkey, an AI and robotics engineer at the University of Sheffield. He says he can understand why the military want such technology, but also worries it will be used irresponsibly.

"This is a clear step towards one of the main goals of the US Army's Future Combat Systems project, which aims to make a single soldier the nexus for a large scale robot attack. Independently, ground and aerial robots have been tested together and once the bits are joined, there will be a robot force under command of a single soldier with potentially dire consequences for innocents around the corner."
What do you make of this? Are we letting our militaries run technologically amok with our tax dollars? Or can robot soldiers be programmed to be even more ethical than human ones, as some researchers claim?

Paul Marks, technology correspondent
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An "uncooperative human" can mean a lot of things. 

One of the questions posed in the article is whether or not robots can be programmed to be ethical.  In a sense, they certainly can be.  Ethics is simply a set of rules.  Anyone who's read Isaac Asimov knows that it's possible to come up with a rudimentary set of rules governing behavior.  The question is, how complex do the rules have to be to be useful?  If you make a rule that says, "Never take a human life", can you then overlay an exception that says, "...except if the life of an innocent is in danger"?  And how does one then define "innocent"?  So it's not just a question of whether or not robots can be taught ethics.  It's a question of whether or not they can be taught ethics that rival those of human law enforcement.  If you end up with robotic Dirty Harrys, (which are relatively dim-witted, to boot) you're not really better off, in the long run.




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1 - Serve the public trust.

2 - Uphold the law.

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Directive #4 will always prevail. Hail the new world order!!




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very evil looking, I know evil is a silly word for a robot, but they look almost demonic based to me.




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very evil looking, I know evil is a silly word for a robot, but they look almost demonic based to me.

I actually saw that robot video a few months ago.  The innovative part about it is that it does walk like an animal.  (You can see this when the robot is kicked and regains its footing, rather than just toppling over.)  That animal quality does make it look eerily alive.  I don't know that I'd use the word demonic, but it sure as hell is creepy.
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Brian wrote: Robodoon wrote:



very evil looking, I know evil is a silly word for a robot, but they look almost demonic based to me.

I actually saw that robot video a few months ago.  The innovative part about it is that it does walk like an animal.  (You can see this when the robot is kicked and regains its footing, rather than just toppling over.)  That animal quality does make it look eerily alive.  I don't know that I'd use the word demonic, but it sure as hell is creepy.
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Just think of a pack of these soulless creepers coming for you. It's very sad, man is becomming slaves to the works of his own hands? If you doubt that, have you have had to deal with a voice automated answering machine. That creeps me out to have to "answer" to a machine...and worse...now...having to comply to a machine.

we are giving it all away...to those the rule...they will send out machines to do their dirty work...so they are not bothered with us....We the human trash :(




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Scarier still is the concept of nanobots. These are small enough to be injected into a person's bloodstream.


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OpenMind wrote: Scarier still is the concept of nanobots. These are small enough to be injected into a person's bloodstream.
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