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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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Gun Control? [size=You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few That are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter. "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven." The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars. A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term. How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ? It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns. Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed Man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead. The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.) Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school. ] For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens. During the years in which the British government incrementally took Away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released. Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands." All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars. When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. [size=How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kinda like cars. Sound familiar? WAKE UP AMERICA , THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION] "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams [size=] [size=Comment : Submitted by Don Stacey ]
 "...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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A lot of us have been awake for years Rob. It's the handful in the government who aren't! Or is it maybe the other way around.........
Justice for Mark.....Imprison Employers Who Hire ILLEGALS! |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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foxglovepress wrote: A lot of us have been awake for years Rob. It's the handful in the government who aren't! Or is it maybe the other way around......... I know a lot of people are awake...but we need more. I think more in government aren't or if they are; they aren't willing to say no ie"I'm just doing my job" The sad thing is the power of the media and the reaction of the sheeple. Thats one of the biggest problems we face. But then again, we can always just do our best or try to do our best and put our hope in the Lord. This at least allows us the peace to say " We fought the good fight, we tried" for in the end, it is the Lords ;)
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Happy Heretic
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More internet rhubarb. Tony Martin only served three years in prison, he was released in 2003, he was never given a "life" term. The burglars were fleeing when he saw them, they weren't standing still, they weren't advancing, they weren't brandishing weapons, they were running away, he shot them in the back.
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Here's the story from the BBC.....I guess it's trustworthy.....They Broke into the man's house. His mistake was not killing them both right there. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/3087003.stm
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Millennium wrote: Here's the story from the BBC.....I guess it's trustworthy.....They Broke into the man's house. His mistake was not killing them both right there. That's what I hear too. If you don't kill them, they can sue you....thanks to the ACLU!
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Happy Heretic
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Firing the gun in the air would have been just as effective, 99.9% of home intruders in the UK are gutless turds who run like bitches if so much as a light gets switched on. I recorded hundreds of burglaries when I used to work in the crime recording bureau for Northumbria police, you have to understand that because of the different cultures we have different kinds of home intruders.
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Firing the gun in the air would have been just as effective, 99.9% Ok, since you have it all figured out...I still suspect your "official " number here...but in this scenario, you have just been broken into AGAIN.., your house and private domain has been violated... AGAIN... at what point, in the split second you may have to decide, do you: A. Realize that he is the 99.9% that is harmless and will run away if a shot is fired into the air.... B. Realize that he is the .1% that will kill you if he sees you? How long do you wait?....Fire into the air, and HOPE he is going to run away? or Fire into the air and then find out that his return fire just ended your life, or some family members life. Sorry...I stand by my original claim...if he's in my house...under the circunstance that guy was there...he's a dead man....
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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They aren't gutless turds here ninja. They're rapists, drug people high on meth, gang members, and maybe 1% might be the kid down the street. Any of which will NOT be warned other than the racking of my gun. Some say, don't even give them that warning. Once they hear it, they know where you are then! I agree with Mill. If they're in my house and had to break in to be there, I have myself and a granddaughter to protect. Their dead if I can hit em!
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Happy Heretic
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foxglovepress wrote: They aren't gutless turds here ninja. ! Thats why if I lived in the US I would seriously consider having some kind of gun in case some armed crackhead or gang banger decided to pay me a visit, especially if the nearest copshop was miles and miles away. I used to own a shotgun, as I used to go clay pigeon and grouse shooting but in the current climate in the UK I wouldn't have one in the house.
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