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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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Hey Mo! Did you ever hear about that incident in Vietnam where a convoy was ambushed and taking heavy fire, then the commander shouted over a megaphone "This is Captain Kirk, I am calling in the Enterprise for a phaser attack" and the Vietcong all ran away?
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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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Saint wrote: OK...say I buy your whole "New World Order" theory. Say I even go so far as to say that Star Trekis a model of it. Very politically correct isn't it. And if I were to sell you something, would I do it with poison or sugar? Many of these new age supporters do believe in this utopian idea. But remember the utopian idea was also used by Hitler and the Communists. ;) Did those work out alright?The masters of Hitler and the Communists, are the very ones offering the NWO to the world. Whats not seen or talked about is the humanistic components of these ideas, they are not based on Christianity, they are not based on freedom..., but selfish ideals of the glory of men. What you don't see is the spiritual component. And this is a very involved topic because of the conditioning of the people. Freedom is dangerous. Did you know that? The idea of the USA was Freedom for the individual. Today we suffer from “community” rights or “society” rights…which are the antithesis of our founders goals. Ie we suffer from communism today…I hope you didn’t think it was dead, because it rules us today. I could give all that you listed "technologically proficient, with clean energy in abundance, no poverty, no internal war, very little disease that can't be cured, and amazingly long life spans." in prison…as they offer, or we could gain it for all of us without them. And Prison is the new world order. You have to ask yourself, do you want to be free or do you want efficiency at the cost of your freedom. And may I remind you. Many of the things you list we can gained in freedom, but the prison masters are the ones who keep stopping us from becoming truly "self sustaining" which is what you listed. (kind of) They don't want you to be self sustaining and independent, cuz that removes them...they support interdependence, which they control...from top to bottom...making us nothing more then slaves, who bend toward the slave masters for what we could have on our own without their control over us. Most of the trouble you see in the world today is created on purpose, but those that believe you should be their slave. Last edited on 11:39 pm by Robodoon "...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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moguitar wrote: Star Trek was an overly optimistic fantasy about being able to have a powerful enough artificial gravity and accelerating rapidly to many times the speed of light, another impossibility. I didn't know quite enough physics of that type in the 60s. Very good observations, but the world isn't over populated. Thats what the elites teach the masses, and its just not true. These elites are also the ones who cause the wars, hide the cures, hide free energy and create most of the conditions that they rush back to us with a solution for, and always..they are in charge of the solution. Create Crisis, Alert the people, offer solution...they have been doing it for decades and it still works on the people today. ;)
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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Saint wrote: Hey Mo! Did you ever hear about that incident in Vietnam where a convoy was ambushed and taking heavy fire, then the commander shouted over a megaphone "This is Captain Kirk, I am calling in the Enterprise for a phaser attack" and the Vietcong all ran away? Did you know that Nam was an elite war? It was created. http://expendableelite.com/ And the elites were killing us, while we fought for the USA. our own government (well not really, the controllers of our government) were putting orders out to kill those who dealt in truth.
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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I had an erotic dream about Data once.
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LOL, a logcal argument for a fantasy show. The underlying theme is world control by a single body of goverment, removing the needs of self in place of serving the needs of the government. There are no rich or poor, there is only doing the right thing, and that right thing is developed by the Federation. To be the best you can be for yourself, not God, and then to serve the federation, which is the same as serving the World run by Satan.
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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Twilla wrote: I had an erotic dream about Data once. I'm not here to be silly. I'm very serious about the things I say, even if you think I'm not. ;) And I'm sorry about your dream, thats a real sick one ;) you started it ;)
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Robodoon wrote: Saint wrote:Hey Mo! Did you ever hear about that incident in Vietnam where a convoy was ambushed and taking heavy fire, then the commander shouted over a megaphone "This is Captain Kirk, I am calling in the Enterprise for a phaser attack" and the Vietcong all ran away? Let's not foget about the Golden Triangle and control of the heroin trade in South East Asia. The french got there clocked cleaned while exporting as much as they could, then we thought we could crush those primative little VC, well, we all know what happened. The start of the Vietnam War was a total lie, thanks LBJ...
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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TruthSeeker wrote: LOL, a logcal argument for a fantasy show. The underlying theme is world control by a single body of goverment, removing the needs of self in place of serving the needs of the government. There are no rich or poor, there is only doing the right thing, and that right thing is developed by the Federation. To be the best you can be for yourself, not God, and then to serve the federation, which is the same as serving the World run by Satan. right you are. but most don't see it. Those who bemoan, healthcare, shelter, food and work...do not understand what they are claiming. ;) The slave is well managed for his owner. He will make sure his investment has food, has rest so he can work, has health care so he can serve and has shelter so he can rest. Yes Prison is a wonderful place for the "Worker"
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"...most don't see it..." Ah, a common lament.
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There is no slavery in Star Trek, everyone is employed for themselves and free to pursue their own interests. I'm a bit confused, if you guys don't want a world where everyone is free, healthy, happy and united... Just the the HELL do you want? Last edited on 06:11 pm by Saint A^2 + B^2 = C^2 |
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Perhaps they would prefer a Taliban-style medieval theocracy.
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Perhaps they would prefer a Taliban-style medieval theocracy. I'm really beginning to wonder! 
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Saint wrote: There is no slavery in Star Trek, everyone is employed for themselves and free to pursue their own interests.Pardon my ignorance, but I won't apologize for it; my father insisted we not be subjected to the propoganda on TV, so we didn't own a TV, and I still don't own one, so I missed all that conditioning. So to the point: I have only seen 10-20 shows, so I've missed most of them. I've never seen any mention in Star Trek of the "home planet", just those guys on the Enterprise. Were we to have gotten a chance to see the home planet, we no doubt would have seen the slave colonies that worked to allow the elite to fly around at warp speed. Sort of like in Matrix, where everyone was a slave. By the way, communist and socialist ideoligists never tell the truth about what reality is like; they just give you the glorified, sugar-coated lies of utopia, and to justify the one grand chance socialism/communism had in the USSR, which proved an utter failure, they always revert to the old lie that "well, the system is perfect, but the application was flawed....let's give it another try". Don't fall for it, people!! I've seen communism in the USSR, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Poland. Can you possibly fathom a place so drab, dreary and dead that there is absolutely NO color visible save for the giant propoganda murals on the bland, soot covered cookie-cutter apartment buildings? A place where people think they are not taxed because they aren't paid anything at all? A place so morally bankrupt that there is nothing to buy in the stores, and when there is, lines of 3-5 miles long can be found? Are you all just a bunch of idiots, or merely desparately ignorant idealists? It can and will happen again. It's happening before our eyes, if you only cared to open your feeble eyes and look around.
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Pardon my ignorance, but I won't apologize for it; my father insisted we not be subjected to the propoganda on TV, so we didn't own a TV, and I still don't own one, so I missed all that conditioning. And all the dreaming, imagination, information, and opposing views. So to the point: I have only seen 10-20 shows, so I've missed most of them. I've never seen any mention in Star Trek of the "home planet", just those guys on the Enterprise. Were we to have gotten a chance to see the home planet, we no doubt would have seen the slave colonies that worked to allow the elite to fly around at warp speed. Sort of like in Matrix, where everyone was a slave. Watch Star Trek IV "The Voyage Home" It shows San Francisco as a beautiful, modern city and the headquarters of a bustling and enegetic Federation. Earth is clean and pollution-free, and the population is employed, productive, happy, and optimistic. By the way, communist and socialist ideoligists never tell the truth about what reality is like; they just give you the glorified, sugar-coated lies of utopia, and to justify the one grand chance socialism/communism had in the USSR, which proved an utter failure, they always revert to the old lie that "well, the system is perfect, but the application was flawed....let's give it another try". Don't fall for it, people!! I've seen communism in the USSR, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Poland. Can you possibly fathom a place so drab, dreary and dead that there is absolutely NO color visible save for the giant propoganda murals on the bland, soot covered cookie-cutter apartment buildings? A place where people think they are not taxed because they aren't paid anything at all? A place so morally bankrupt that there is nothing to buy in the stores, and when there is, lines of 3-5 miles long can be found? None of which has the slightest thing to do with Start Trek which is about a grand possible future of mankind as exploring pioneers, not stagnant commnists. Are you all just a bunch of idiots, or merely desparately ignorant idealists? It can and will happen again. It's happening before our eyes, if you only cared to open your feeble eyes and look around. Sad. Really sad. I'd rather be an idealist and an optimist than a grouchy, sad, depressed, pessimistic doom-sayer. Who wants to live that way? Remember: "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."
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