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Saint wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but I won't apologize for it; my father insisted we not be subjected to the propoganda on TV, so we didn't own a TV, and I still don't own one, so I missed all that conditioning.

And all the dreaming, imagination, information, and opposing views.


  So to the point:  I have only seen 10-20 shows, so I've missed most of them.  I've never seen any mention in Star Trek of the "home planet", just those guys on the Enterprise.  Were we to have gotten a chance to see the home planet, we no doubt would have seen the slave colonies that worked to allow the elite to fly around at warp speed.  Sort of like in Matrix, where everyone was a slave.

Watch Star Trek IV "The Voyage Home" It shows San Francisco as a beautiful, modern city and the headquarters of a bustling and enegetic Federation. Earth is clean and pollution-free, and the population is employed, productive, happy, and optimistic.

By the way, communist and socialist ideoligists never tell the truth about what reality is like; they just give you the glorified, sugar-coated lies of utopia, and to justify the one grand chance socialism/communism had in the USSR, which proved an utter failure, they always revert to the old lie that "well, the system is perfect, but the application was flawed....let's give it another try".  Don't fall for it, people!!  I've seen communism in the USSR, East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Poland.  Can you possibly fathom a place so drab, dreary and dead that there is absolutely NO color visible save for the giant propoganda murals on the bland, soot covered cookie-cutter apartment buildings?  A place where people think they are not taxed because they aren't paid anything at all?  A place so morally bankrupt that there is nothing to buy in the stores, and when there is, lines of 3-5 miles long can be found?

None of which has the slightest thing to do with Start Trek which is about a grand possible future of mankind as exploring pioneers, not stagnant commnists.

Are you all just a bunch of idiots, or merely desparately ignorant idealists?  It can and will happen again.  It's happening before our eyes, if you only cared to open your feeble eyes and look around.

Sad.  Really sad.  I'd rather be an idealist and an optimist than a grouchy, sad, depressed, pessimistic doom-sayer.  Who wants to live that way?

Remember:  "Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."
My good sir, I am very much an idealist.  I am neither grouchy, nor sad, nor depressed, nor pessimistic.  I'm very happy; in fact, I doubt you can even begin to comprehend my elation at having found the Truth, the Way, and the Life.  I invite you to share my joy!!

"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"  --Galations 4:16

You fail to understand the significance of the changes ensconsed around us.  And though I bring you truth of our past, you fail to comprehend how history can and does repeat itself.  Never again, they said.  And it's only been 2 generations since that experimental detention center was set up at Auschwitz.  No, it couldn't, it wouldn't, it daren't turn into something more grotesque.  Don't you follow me?  Don't you see the writing on the wall?




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Saint wrote: Hey Mo!  Did you ever hear about that incident in Vietnam where a convoy was ambushed and taking heavy fire, then the commander shouted over a megaphone "This is Captain Kirk, I am calling in the Enterprise for a phaser attack" and the Vietcong all ran away?:D
No, Saint.  I came off field Dustoff Standby, and really saw my first Star Trek episode as I walked into a room with a TV (very few of them around) back at base.  It was the one with the future Komes against the wild Yangs with the American Flag and the "Holy Book" US Constitution.   The episode was profound, and when I got back I was a Star Trek addict for a while, then again later, then with Next Generation.
The hopeful fantasy and escape was a nice refuge from the reality of my experiences and research, and a rest from the daily grind.   "Earl Grey hot!"
     What gets me is that the CFR and its NWO ideals are absolutely true.   The continous disbelief in the face of facts on depletion, and pollution, of overpopulation and climate change is what gets me.  I guess when you haven't been around long enough or studied enough different subjects, that happens.  The ignoring of God's words "Replenish the Earth" and "Fill the Earth"--not overfill it, goes over their tiny heads.
     Reminds me of Spock when he said "I would say that they are as far above us on the evolutionary scale, as we are above the amoeba."   Except it is we who are "they", and guys like robo are the "amoeba".  Too bad.  Can't teach them, can't even train them to be sustainable.   All they do is what the NWO corporate/political complex wants--grow more and dumber.
      Today,  I am through with being sad about it.  For some reason, I think it is funny.  Like the good feeling you get when you quit banging your head against a brick wall.
    

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Ok Now for Star Wars and Lucus.

Notice Lucas Logo

Seems very close to the all seeing eye and "Illumination"

Remember his film THX 1138? its a picture of the New World order...the controlled society

But the most unsettling thing about him is his spiritual push in his movies. ie The force, the force is a mimic of the "shamballa Force" talked about by "Lucifer Publishing" now http://www.lucistrust.org, who manages the prayer room at the UN.

Here are two articles I found which explan his connections to the UN's spiritual push.

Star Wars joins United Religions at the Presidio 

The Revenge of the Sith




"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller
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Brilliant articles, Robodoon!




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1jester wrote: Brilliant articles, Robodoon!


She is tops, but darn she makes a mess out of filming. She is one of the very best on Christian issues via the world....but she messed up my film shoot, I sure hope I can make it work when it comes time to edit.

But "GOD BLESS HER AND HER EFFORTS" !!!!

 

 




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Robodoon wrote:
And if I were to sell you something, would I do it with poison or sugar?

So, why do you use words, comments and rhetoric that come across as poison?

Same thing as carrot and the stick. You're beating everyone's head's in with a large club rather than offering your information in a way that resembles a tasty carrot.

You can't teach or show people things in anger. Understanding and encouragement work better.

At least that's my experience with teachers from twelve years in Catholic schools.

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P.S. Anyone who's saying, "Oh no, she revived the thread", sorry - I haven't been around that long and there's a lot to read here.

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Outré, please don't apologize for reviving an old thread. Everyone here can do it at will, and finding topics that interest you, no matter how old, is encouraged. I revive old topics on purpose occasionally. Hope all is well. :)




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Saint wrote: OK...say I buy your whole "New World Order" theory.  Say I even go so far as to say that Star Trekis a model of it.

In the Star Trek Universe, you can see that everyone is well-fed, productive and happy, highly intelligent and skilled, and race is no longer an issue.

In addition, the Star Trek Universe is technologically proficient, with clean energy in abundance, no poverty, no internal war, very little disease that can't be cured, and amazingly long life spans.

The Start Trek episodes pay special attendtion to family values, courage, honor, integrity, and justice with each episode showing these qualities in many characters.

In other words...EVERYONE IS LIVING THEIR LIVES, ENJOYING LIBERTY, AND PURSUING HAPPINESS.  Isn't that what our Founding Fathers wanted?

If that's the New World Order...

COUNT ME IN!!!!:banana:


First of all, the NWO is not a theory.

Star Trek was just one of many visual propaganda tools used by the orchestrators of The Plan to manipulate "the masses".

The Star Trek universe is the portrayal of an idealistic lifestyle....very much to be desired by many. It is not, however, what the planned NWO will be like. Take a good look at todays world leaders. What is their character? Do you personally trust them? What about the wealthiest people? What do you think about their character and reputation? Do you trust them? How about the people who run the major corporations in this world?

These are the people who are the creators, manipulators and planners of your future.

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This is why I don't watch tv!

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24HourNut wrote:
Outré, please don't apologize for reviving an old thread. Everyone here can do it at will, and finding topics that interest you, no matter how old, is encouraged. I revive old topics on purpose occasionally. Hope all is well. :)


Hey Frank ::whello::

Thanks! I'll remember that.

Everything is good this weekend - thanks for asking!

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Hamster wrote:
This is why I don't watch tv!

I watch tv. I loved Star Trek, but I don't believe that a One World Government would work currently.

<---That's why I have that Wish. But I think it's a long time coming.

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Outré wrote: Hamster wrote:
This is why I don't watch tv!

I watch tv. I loved Star Trek, but I don't believe that a One World Government would work currently.

<---That's why I have that Wish. But I think it's a long time coming.

Outré


::whello::

I should add for clarity that I don't believe in that Star Trek is evil or that there is any other agenda here. What I meant was I find it to be so negative. Look at the news for example-never a "good" story headline is there? Always death, war or other crimes!

We are inudated here with crappy soaps that just detail the misery normal people go through.

At least with Star Trek you could escape normal life for a while hey?

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HAIL!! To the Romulan Empire!!!!!!! Romulans don't take prisoners!!!!! Cloaking device on!!! Escape maneuver 1, immediately.
Yeah, Gene Roddenberry, WWII hero B-24 pilot/commander, was an agent for the NWO in his writing and portrayal of a space "wagon train" or western.
It was fiction, science fiction, and darn good, too.
Then you have fruitcakes thinking it was real life, and others posting idiotic megabytes of crap photos, and no quick way past the shit.


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Outré wrote: I watch tv. I loved Star Trek, but I don't believe that a One World Government would work currently.

Outré

What type of One World Government are you referring to?

The one I am talking about is not for the people or by the people.


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