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Below is a taste of the ideas of the Elites, this mindset is the mindset of the New World Order Pushers who support things like global socialism. Most people have been taught that the socialistic mind thinks of the people, but it doesn't. It is cold and cruel and has no mercy toward mankind. Its eugenic policies serve only a few in power, but it is sold as a utopia to the masses.


26 January 2007
Eric Pianka, meet John Reid
William Dembski

Australian ID critic Robyn Williams recently interviewed Melbourne neuroscientist John Reid, who is also a self-proclaimed expert in overpopulation and how to deal with it. Eric Pianka was the talk of this blog last year for recommending Ebola as the instrument of choice for reducing the world’s population by 90 percent (use UD’s search feature on his name). It seems that Eric and John need to pool their talents. In case you haven’t met, Eric, meet John; John, meet Eric. There, I’ve done my good deed for the day.

For a taste of where John Reid is going, consider:

[H]umanity has been all too compliant with the Biblical injunction to be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.
Here is the full transcript: http://www.uncommondescent.com/archives/2005




"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller

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[H]umanity has been all too compliant with the Biblical injunction to be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.
It is the truth that people mostly forgot that God said to "Replenish the Earth" and sinfully have not.  It is also truth that most people have not understood what God meant by "Fill the Earth" and have lustfully OVER-FILLED the Earth sinfully.  How do you justify making other species go extinct, when that is certainly not "Replenishing".
The ones doing these sins, or thinking sinfully, are the very ones reading the Bible/Koran, etc. in a way that they think forgives the sins they have committed by over-breeding beyond the point of human harmony and sustainablity with God's Earth and biosphere.  They use up the resources and do not try to put back what they have taken, have not tried to replenish or conserve God's gifts.  Sinners who will not see everlasting life like they think they will, but abandonment to non-existence after admonishment by God the Father and Creator.  Remember the sins of lust, gluttony, and greed, too.  You can't just pick and chose with God Almighty's orders.  He will not forgive those who have killed millions in the future that they have destroyed by not following His true Will of Replenishing the Earth and multiplying only to that level that is harmonious among people and sustainable for the life of the planet.  Loving Jesus, Buddha, or Muhammed will not save your souls from these awful sins

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[H]umanity has been all too compliant with the Biblical injunction to be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.
It is the truth that people mostly forgot that God said to "Replenish the Earth" and sinfully have not.  It is also truth that most people have not understood what God meant by "Fill the Earth" and have lustfully OVER-FILLED the Earth sinfully.  How do you justify making other species go extinct, when that is certainly not "Replenishing".
The ones doing these sins, or thinking sinfully, are the very ones reading the Bible/Koran, etc. in a way that they think forgives the sins they have committed by over-breeding beyond the point of human harmony and sustainablity with God's Earth and biosphere.  They use up the resources and do not try to put back what they have taken, have not tried to replenish or conserve God's gifts.  Sinners who will not see everlasting life like they think they will, but abandonment to non-existence after admonishment by God the Father and Creator.  Remember the sins of lust, gluttony, and greed, too.  You can't just pick and chose with God Almighty's orders.  He will not forgive those who have killed millions in the future that they have destroyed by not following His true Will of Replenishing the Earth and multiplying only to that level that is harmonious among people and sustainable for the life of the planet.  Loving Jesus, Buddha, or Muhammed will not save your souls from these awful sins




The World is not over populated

The World isn't running out of resources

The environmental movement is the creation of the Rich oil men, ie the Elite international bankers who also control and own the giant corporations.

UNCED -Summit Rothschilds

THE UNCED EARTH SUMMIT MEETING RIo

De JAneiro Brazil June 1-12 1992

36:58 min Video exposing the New World order Globalist plans for humanity on Earth, using the Environment and Business in a Helgelian Dialectic Model for humanity. (UN AGENDA 21 ) Hegelian dialectic, two forces aligned against one another. One is thesis, the other antithesis. The conflict will produce a synthesis. Rothschild's own words are recorded on this video, also listing Maurice Strong and Rockefeller.

UNCED VIDEO LINK http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4434160622382887664&q=New+world&pl=true

These same powers if anyone should be the ones come to trial for any  "Damage" to the earth is suffering. But they aren't, instead they are writing the global eco codes "UN Agenda 21" to hoist social change on humanity for the elites prepared and broadcasted "eco crisises"

They create the crisis, they alert the people, and they offer their planned solution to the crisis they created...real or not.

This was talked about in the Club of Rome.

The Club of Rome ( the Enemy of Mankind) http://www.clubofrome.org



 

Aurelio Peccei founder and past president of the Club of Rome said”


In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages ,famine, and the like would fit the bill…All of these are caused by human intervention…The real enemy , then is humanity itself

(the Birth of World Government Paraphrased from page16 by Michael S. Coffman Ph.D)

These ideas of crisis have been beaten into the heads of public school children and university students for decades. They have been brought up in these phony ideas and have no idea that they are being manipulated, because thats all they been taught and they think its normal.

If you read the Club of Rome report, Limits of Growth, you will find they intend to create artificial shortages. Other publications such as The Unfinished Agenda and the 1992 Rio Report To The Club of Rome confirm that objective. They believe shortages are better than abundance, and low living standards are better than high living standards. I suggest you reread my January letter, evaluate the information cited there, and then read the summary of the Global Biodiversity Assessment contained in my Sustainable Development Syllabus. When you grasp the significance of the concepts discussed there you will understand why there is an energy shortage in California, and why the price of natural gas is rising across the nation. The "Elite" groups that rule the world want to create artificial shortages, force people to limit their consumption, and undermine our way of life. [23]

http://www.radioliberty.com/nlmar01.htm

And these people who really should if anyone be blamed for any ecological damage, will not be changing their way of life, they just plan to change us. Rockefeller isn't going to be giving up his companies or his 120 mansions, but is happy to tell the rest of the people on the earth that "your using to much" And via the control of education the childrens mantra is "we are destroying the earth"...but when is the last time a school childs oil tanker hit ground?

The middle class is its target, not the rich.

Maurice Strong said

"...current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable. A shift is necessary. which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations..." [1]  Maurice Strong , opening speech at the 1992 UN Conference on Environment and Developmt http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/la21_198.html

 Maurice who works with the rockefellers will not be changing his life, but states that the middle class has to go. The result of their desires is to end up with a Rich ruling class and the rest of as serfs.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."

David Rockefeller Baden-Baden, Germany 1991

We have solutions now for all the said problems we face, but we aren't allowed to use them. The solutions would destroy the elites finite markets and with that destroy much of the strangle hold they hold on society. They can not allow a truely "self sustaining" world. and if you havent' noticed, they openly do not support "independence" instead "interdependence" which they control from top. Bring the whole world to their door step, which holds their control over the people and turns us into nothing but slaves begging the king for bread.

 

 

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[H]umanity has been all too compliant with the Biblical injunction to be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.
It is the truth that people mostly forgot that God said to "Replenish the Earth" and sinfully have not.  It is also truth that most people have not understood what God meant by "Fill the Earth" and have lustfully OVER-FILLED the Earth sinfully.  How do you justify making other species go extinct, when that is certainly not "Replenishing".
The ones doing these sins, or thinking sinfully, are the very ones reading the Bible/Koran, etc. in a way that they think forgives the sins they have committed by over-breeding beyond the point of human harmony and sustainablity with God's Earth and biosphere.  They use up the resources and do not try to put back what they have taken, have not tried to replenish or conserve God's gifts.  Sinners who will not see everlasting life like they think they will, but abandonment to non-existence after admonishment by God the Father and Creator.  Remember the sins of lust, gluttony, and greed, too.  You can't just pick and chose with God Almighty's orders.  He will not forgive those who have killed millions in the future that they have destroyed by not following His true Will of Replenishing the Earth and multiplying only to that level that is harmonious among people and sustainable for the life of the planet.  Loving Jesus, Buddha, or Muhammed will not save your souls from these awful sins




The World is not over populated>>>>(young, deluded, head in the sand, inexperienced, and under-educated.   The world and the USA have been overpopulated since 1900 to 1924, depending on whether you go with the US standard of living or the European standard of living.  First really seen starting in the 1960s, and finally quantified in "Elephants in the Volkswagen", 1992, Lindsey Grant, read his resume with google, he's far wiser than you, and not some lackey of big business/government)<<<<

The World isn't running out of resources>>>>>( research and actual data from many sources used in studies by me, and many others, show you are wrong---fatally wrong)<<<<

The environmental movement is the creation of the Rich oil men, ie the Elite international bankers who also control and own the giant corporations.>>>>(you are a totrally deluded nut case.  The rich oil men want to pump out all the oil at the highest price possible, not help the environment by slowing pumping for conserservation for future generations, or reducing CO2 output.  You've got it bass ackwards, boy.)<<<<<


 the crisis they created...real or not.>>>>("they" didn't create anything but profiteering from perceived and exaggerated oil crises.   The crises of pollution were created by human greed and/or stupidity.  The crises of depletion of soil and water resources are from human over-breeding to over-population since 1900)<<<<

 

 
>>>>I like your stance against immigration/multi-culturalism, the SPP, NAU and NWO, Robo.  However, you are very ignorant with eco-biology, and really have your head in the sand about overpopulation, its causes and effects.   Most "Jesus Freaks" that I've met don't really know the Creator and His Laws, and the first two pages of the Bible's Old Testament are mis-interpreted or ignored, fables taken as reality, and open ended prophesies taken as facts now, the stories and myths of the ancients as real and exact history.  The net result with putting the conspiracies in the wrong hands or ignoring realities is coming off to others as a dumb nutcase<<<

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[H]umanity has been all too compliant with the Biblical injunction to be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.
It is the truth that people mostly forgot that God said to "Replenish the Earth" and sinfully have not.  It is also truth that most people have not understood what God meant by "Fill the Earth" and have lustfully OVER-FILLED the Earth sinfully.  How do you justify making other species go extinct, when that is certainly not "Replenishing".
The ones doing these sins, or thinking sinfully, are the very ones reading the Bible/Koran, etc. in a way that they think forgives the sins they have committed by over-breeding beyond the point of human harmony and sustainablity with God's Earth and biosphere.  They use up the resources and do not try to put back what they have taken, have not tried to replenish or conserve God's gifts.  Sinners who will not see everlasting life like they think they will, but abandonment to non-existence after admonishment by God the Father and Creator.  Remember the sins of lust, gluttony, and greed, too.  You can't just pick and chose with God Almighty's orders.  He will not forgive those who have killed millions in the future that they have destroyed by not following His true Will of Replenishing the Earth and multiplying only to that level that is harmonious among people and sustainable for the life of the planet.  Loving Jesus, Buddha, or Muhammed will not save your souls from these awful sins




The World is not over populated>>>>(young, deluded, head in the sand, inexperienced, and under-educated.   The world and the USA have been overpopulated since 1900 to 1924, depending on whether you go with the US standard of living or the European standard of living.  First really seen starting in the 1960s, and finally quantified in "Elephants in the Volkswagen", 1992, Lindsey Grant, read his resume with google, he's far wiser than you, and not some lackey of big business/government)<<<<Only 6% of the land in the USA is developed, 3 % is urban and 77% of all the people live in the Urban areas.

The World isn't running out of resources>>>>>( research and actual data from many sources used in studies by me, and many others, show you are wrong---fatally wrong)<<<<The elites control most of the souces and the houses of education that the source providers go to.

The environmental movement is the creation of the Rich oil men, ie the Elite international bankers who also control and own the giant corporations.>>>>(you are a totrally deluded nut case.  The rich oil men want to pump out all the oil at the highest price possible, not help the environment by slowing pumping for conserservation for future generations, or reducing CO2 output.  You've got it bass ackwards, boy.)<<<<<Nope, you forget about the hegelian dialectic. I take it that you didn't watch that film I posted where the oil men are talking about UN Agenda 21. The elites don't so much force their agenda on people, but create biases that work against each other in a Hegelian fashion. This allows for a process to happen, moveing left then right it works its way through society as trick. This way, the people think they are fighting for what ever side they have picked and don't understand the manipulation towards the wanted goal.Mikhail Gorbachev
"The environmental crisis is the cornerstone for the New World Order."

Samantha Smith, journalists, Testimony of her observations at the State of the World Forum, San Francisco, September 27 -October1 1995



 the crisis they created...real or not.>>>>("they" didn't create anything but profiteering from perceived and exaggerated oil crises.   The crises of pollution were created by human greed and/or stupidity.  The crises of depletion of soil and water resources are from human over-breeding to over-population since 1900)<<<<

No again, this cry that we are destroying the earth is taught to the people by the elites. Real conservation comes from private property by the citizens. The elites seek to remove that (private property) , populations decrease with a prosperous society, but the elites are the ones who keep bring poverty to the people and then offering social programs as a solution.
Big corps do most of the "said" damage to the world, yets its the big corp owners who are writing the solutions, which punish the people, for the actions of the rich. The rich gain more and the people suffer more. Not to mention we have real renewables, but we aren't allowed to used them, the owners of the finite markets keep removing them. Case in point, hydrogen power, instead of using water to make hydrogen, petrol products are used. This keeps the finite markets in control of the said new renewables. This is the case with the fuel cell that groups like GM are working on. Another is nuclear power which can provide lots of clean energy, but we are told the spent fuel rods can't be handled and we must stop using them, yet france recycles their spent rods, but in the USA we are told it can't be done. And at the same time here in the USA, we haven't built a nuclear power plant in decades but we just gave China 5 billion to build some new ones for them....why? The third world is being given our wealth and the first world is being destroyed. Many of these crisis conditions you have learned about are are created, amplifed and sold to the people as absolutes, but they aren't... Problems are exaggerated, real solutions are hidden, and the solutions that are offered support the models for the elites vision of social change.

You should watch this short thing, you seem to like independence as I do, learn how they are planning to take it away from you, and its active now takingliberty.us.

Its done by Dr. Coffman, and environmentalist who is speaking out. He found out long ago that if the environment is really in trouble, the messures to correct it are the opposite of what needs to be done. This lead him to the understanding that the environmental movement really wasn't about saving the earth, but forcing social change for control on the people http://www.sovereignty.net/

 



 

 
>>>>I like your stance against immigration/multi-culturalism, the SPP, NAU and NWO, Robo.  However, you are very ignorant with eco-biology, and really have your head in the sand about overpopulation, its causes and effects.   Most "Jesus Freaks" that I've met don't really know the Creator and His Laws, and the first two pages of the Bible's Old Testament are mis-interpreted or ignored, fables taken as reality, and open ended prophesies taken as facts now, the stories and myths of the ancients as real and exact history.  The net result with putting the conspiracies in the wrong hands or ignoring realities is coming off to others as a dumb nutcase<<<
Genesis 1

26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
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But I'm not using the Bible as only the reason I'm saying the earth is not over populated. I'm saying it because its not. There is more room, resources and everything for all if its done right...but instead we have a Ruling class that owns everything, who dictates what we can use, who cause conditions towards their "Vision" and then offer the solutions to the wanting masses who fall more and more under their control.  The whole environmental movement is a lie, it is nothing more then a way to force social changes desired by a ruling class on a mass they they scare into compliance. You just don't know the tricks yet, thats all. You don't understand how we have been manipulated yet.

but watch this if you get some time takingliberty.us ...see if you are with what is happening.

 

 

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26And God said, Let us make man in our image>>(this is wrong because there is only one God the Father/Creator of the Universe)<<<, after our likeness: and let them have>>(benevolent, understanding)<< dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
 27So God created man in his own image>>(anthropomorphism, that God has to look like us in our physical form)<<, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply>>>(NOT OVER-multiply), and >>>replenish the earth(put back the equal of what you took out,by knowing what you took and how to replenish)<<, and subdue it>>>(in a positive sense, not the usual sinfully negative sense)<<: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. >>(again, dominion in this case meaning benevolent knowledeable use)<<<
 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat(food).
 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.




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to conquer and bring into subjection:  how about in a positive way with understanding and thankfulness.<<<

 

If you had any real knowledge of ecology, you would know that "room" has little to do with a given habitat's carrying capacity for various lengths of time. 
The only conspiracy is to get more consumers and hide the effects of pollution and depletion, for the few to live their lives of luxury without caring about the future of the species, or the biosphere, as long as they die fat and happy.  They know not their sinfulness, and don't believe in God and spiritual afterlife.   They will be dreadfully admonished by God.

 

 

 

 

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26And God said, Let us make man in our image>>(this is wrong because there is only one God the Father/Creator of the Universe)<<<, after our likeness: and let them have>>(benevolent, understanding)<< dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
 27So God created man in his own image>>(anthropomorphism, that God has to look like us in our physical form)<<, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply>>>(NOT OVER-multiply), and >>>replenish the earth(put back the equal of what you took out,by knowing what you took and how to replenish)<<, and subdue it>>>(in a positive sense, not the usual sinfully negative sense)<<: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. >>(again, dominion in this case meaning benevolent knowledeable use)<<<
 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat(food).
 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.




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to conquer and bring into subjection:  how about in a positive way with understanding and thankfulness.<<<

 

If you had any real knowledge of ecology, you would know that "room" has little to do with a given habitat's carrying capacity for various lengths of time. 
The only conspiracy is to get more consumers and hide the effects of pollution and depletion, for the few to live their lives of luxury without caring about the future of the species, or the biosphere, as long as they die fat and happy.  They know not their sinfulness, and don't believe in God and spiritual afterlife.   They will be dreadfully admonished by God.

 
No. You're being misdirected. I want the Earth to do well too I live here to don't I?And I want the people to do well, as well. As a Christian I'm called to be a steward to the Earth (to look out for all of God's Creation, but I'm not to worship it.)
 My point is that, all the things that concern you can be taken care of...we can do it right now. These solutions are removed from us every time they come up. What you seem to be missing is the understanding of the trick hoisted on us by the powers that be...who do not think like you and me.  There is enough to bring everyone up to good standards, and this reduces birth and that seems to be important to you.What I'm telling you is, that we are 100 years plus into a trick to change society. All good things are removed, chaos and crisis is all that is supported towards our eyes, then these people who cause these things rush in and say they have the solution for us, but its not for us, its for their designs...not for the sake of mankind.From energy to health we are attacked, and the solutions offered us do not benifit us, but others. I want real "sustainablity" ie "Self sustainable"... what we are offered is "Sustainable development", which is really proposed "death for "wanted" life"...and this wanted life is only decided on by a few...and they happen to hate God.I want all of man to enjoy the earth and live long lives, but everything that offers true sustainablity is removed from us and "sustainable development" goals and programs are offered instead. There are powers on earth that grow and reap via crisis, that grow and gain because of the finite. Infinite things are available to all of us...but..certain powers can not let this be known to the masses...for it will destroy their control over man.Really we want the same goals...we both want the best for all...but one of us hasn't found about about the deep deception suffered by man, especially over the last 100 years in the USA.
 

 

 





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Development can not be sustained in a finite system, and thus the saying "sustainable development" is an oxymoron to anyone with brains. Growth of any kind can not be sustained in a finite system.
Ecologists can determine how many humans can be sustained in the inter-connected ecological niches of our planetary biosphere. I, and later, others, have determined this level is going down with depletion and pollution of our life-giving resources given to us by Our Father. The level was 1.5 billion at a Euro standard of living (2,500 calories per person per day, compared with the US level of 3,500 and the world average of 1,600). It is now down to .9 billion. While the world population is 6.7 billion. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a crash is ahead. Caused by human over-breeding, stupidity/ignorance, and selfishness/greed. The NWO isn't forcing moslem women to have 7 kids in 28 years--moslem men are.

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moguitar wrote: Development can not be sustained in a finite system, and thus the saying "sustainable development" is an oxymoron to anyone with brains.
I agree, it is an oxymoronic claim....well like I said it has really nothing to do with real sustainablity. But I would say that to humans the world is infinite, not finite. We are the finite ones and the world even though finite, can be seen as infinite towards our short vaporous lives.

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Growth of any kind can not be sustained in a finite system.Well when their is enough room and their is...
Ecologists can determine how many humans can be sustained in the inter-connected ecological niches of our planetary biosphere.
And Rockefeller teaches them and funds their programs and schools.

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I, and later, others, have determined this level is going down with depletion and pollution of our life-giving resources given to us by Our Father.
Do you think our Father is stupid? Do you believe man is made in His image. Can you point to someplace in the Bible that says "Man kill your self, your hurting my Earth"?

I know their is a warning in REV.

Revelation 11:18
And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

But this is really only pointing to the Elites, not to the people. It seems the message today is "MAN, you are not welcome on earth...leave" this is the message from the UN...but its leaders do not include themselves just us poor people looking for bread. How do I destroy the Earth, looking for bread.

Like I said, the elites are the ones who have abused the Earth the most, they Hate God, they claim godhood for themselves and tell the rest of us we must die.

 

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The level was 1.5 billion at a Euro standard of living (2,500 calories per person per day, compared with the US level of 3,500 and the world average of 1,600). It is now down to .9 billion. While the world population is 6.7 billion.https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/print/xx.html It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that a crash is ahead. Caused by human over-breeding, stupidity/ignorance, and selfishness/greed. The NWO isn't forcing moslem women to have 7 kids in 28 years--moslem men are.
No, but the New world order masters wants all monotheists dead. but the NWO masters are teaching the illegal mexicans coming to the usa to breed...and others too.

When people have wealth, they breed less, yet the powers that promote over the idea of over population are the very powers that help cause the over population.

Why is that...?

Why would the people calling for a reduction in population be the factor that promotes over population for certain groups?

Because its a game my friend...a terrible game.

 


 

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The reason wealthier people have fewer kids is that they have higher IQs. Those with low IQs stay in low paying jobs and breed until they are in poverty. You feel sorry for them and give them food---they breed back to near starvation level. You give them tools and try to teach them their use, and they fall into disrepair. Give them money and they breed until again they are poor.
Dummy do-gooders have related poverty to over-breeding and think after all these post WWII years of experience, still, that the problem can be solved by throwing money that we earn, not them, at their poverty and food shortages. No, I determined they were wrong long ago. The relationships to over-breeding past habitat carrying capacity for humans is first IQ level, next, religious and cultural influences, and next if they work for the government and get those free kids and automatic pay raises. There are exceptions, too. The Asians have a higher IQ, and also have inbred negative hereditary traits of crowd tolerance. The Latino culture negates having lower amounts of children even when they are in the top rim of the Bell Curve in intelligence. Some religions are far worse than others, with the moslem and mormon cults being worse than the average Catholics, who are also very bad. Really the only ones NOT over-breeding for the biospheric conditions at present are the very highest spectrum of IQ who are also non greedy and non-hispanic and not asian. I care and have never been influenced by any of the so called elites or the CFR, Club of Rome or their ilk of evil. The science and math of it is that the population crash is a certainty, with highly probable human extinction. Partly because of numbskulls and the greedy elite, including the Pope.


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