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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts? By Timothy Ball Monday, February 5, 2007 Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the only one trying to make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was the first Canadian Ph.D. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology, especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human history and the human condition. Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science) from the University of London, England and was a climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why. What would happen if tomorrow we were told that, after all, the Earth is flat? It would probably be the most important piece of news in the media and would generate a lot of debate. So why is it that when scientists who have studied the Global Warming phenomenon for years say that humans are not the cause nobody listens? Why does no one acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes on? Believe it or not, Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2). This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science. We are wasting time, energy and trillions of dollars while creating unnecessary fear and consternation over an issue with no scientific justification. For example, Environment Canada brags about spending $3.7 billion in the last five years dealing with climate change almost all on propaganda trying to defend an indefensible scientific position while at the same time closing weather stations and failing to meet legislated pollution targets. No sensible person seeks conflict, especially with governments, but if we don't pursue the truth, we are lost as individuals and as a society. That is why I insist on saying that there is no evidence that we are, or could ever cause global climate change. And, recently, Yuri A. Izrael, Vice President of the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) confirmed this statement. So how has the world come to believe that something is wrong? Maybe for the same reason we believed, 30 years ago, that global cooling was the biggest threat: a matter of faith. "It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind with the most important social, political, and adaptive challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years. Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children, our species," wrote Lowell Ponte in 1976. I was as opposed to the threats of impending doom global cooling engendered as I am to the threats made about Global Warming. Let me stress I am not denying the phenomenon has occurred. The world has warmed since 1680, the nadir of a cool period called the Little Ice Age (LIA) that has generally continued to the present. These climate changes are well within natural variability and explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on. Since I obtained my doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College, England my career has spanned two climate cycles. Temperatures declined from 1940 to 1980 and in the early 1970's global cooling became the consensus. This proves that consensus is not a scientific fact. By the 1990's temperatures appeared to have reversed and Global Warming became the consensus. It appears I'll witness another cycle before retiring, as the major mechanisms and the global temperature trends now indicate a cooling. No doubt passive acceptance yields less stress, fewer personal attacks and makes career progress easier. What I have experienced in my personal life during the last years makes me understand why most people choose not to speak out; job security and fear of reprisals. Even in University, where free speech and challenge to prevailing wisdoms are supposedly encouraged, academics remain silent. I once received a three page letter that my lawyer defined as libellous, from an academic colleague, saying I had no right to say what I was saying, especially in public lectures. Sadly, my experience is that universities are the most dogmatic and oppressive places in our society. This becomes progressively worse as they receive more and more funding from governments that demand a particular viewpoint. In another instance, I was accused by Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki of being paid by oil companies. That is a lie. Apparently he thinks if the fossil fuel companies pay you have an agenda. So if Greenpeace, Sierra Club or governments pay there is no agenda and only truth and enlightenment? Personal attacks are difficult and shouldn't occur in a debate in a civilized society. I can only consider them from what they imply. They usually indicate a person or group is losing the debate. In this case, they also indicate how political the entire Global Warming debate has become. Both underline the lack of or even contradictory nature of the evidence. I am not alone in this journey against the prevalent myth. Several well-known names have also raised their voices. Michael Crichton, the scientist, writer and filmmaker is one of them. In his latest book, "State of Fear" he takes time to explain, often in surprising detail, the flawed science behind Global Warming and other imagined environmental crises. Another cry in the wildenerness is Richard Lindzen's. He is an atmospheric physicist and a professor of meteorology at MIT, renowned for his research in dynamic meteorology - especially atmospheric waves. He is also a member of the National Academy of Sciences and has held positions at the University of Chicago, Harvard University and MIT. Linzen frequently speaks out against the notion that significant Global Warming is caused by humans. Yet nobody seems to listen. I think it may be because most people don't understand the scientific method which Thomas Kuhn so skilfully and briefly set out in his book "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions." A scientist makes certain assumptions and then produces a theory which is only as valid as the assumptions. The theory of Global Warming assumes that CO2 is an atmospheric greenhouse gas and as it increases temperatures rise. It was then theorized that since humans were producing more CO2 than before, the temperature would inevitably rise. The theory was accepted before testing had started, and effectively became a law. As Lindzen said many years ago: "the consensus was reached before the research had even begun." Now, any scientist who dares to question the prevailing wisdom is marginalized and called a sceptic, when in fact they are simply being good scientists. This has reached frightening levels with these scientists now being called climate change denier with all the holocaust connotations of that word. The normal scientific method is effectively being thwarted. Meanwhile, politicians are being listened to, even though most of them have no knowledge or understanding of science, especially the science of climate and climate change. Hence, they are in no position to question a policy on climate change when it threatens the entire planet. Moreover, using fear and creating hysteria makes it very difficult to make calm rational decisions about issues needing attention. Until you have challenged the prevailing wisdom you have no idea how nasty people can be. Until you have re-examined any issue in an attempt to find out all the information, you cannot know how much misinformation exists in the supposed age of information. I was greatly influenced several years ago by Aaron Wildavsky's book "Yes, but is it true?" The author taught political science at a New York University and realized how science was being influenced by and apparently misused by politics. He gave his graduate students an assignment to pursue the science behind a policy generated by a highly publicised environmental concern. To his and their surprise they found there was little scientific evidence, consensus and justification for the policy. You only realize the extent to which Wildavsky's findings occur when you ask the question he posed. Wildavsky's students did it in the safety of academia and with the excuse that it was an assignment. I have learned it is a difficult question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most important question to ask if we are to advance in the right direction. Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (http://www.nrsp.com), is a Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. He can be reached at letters@canadafreepress.com http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm COMMENT: 18,000 Scientists who say there is no human caused global warming http://www.oism.org/pproject/ The global warming scare is to get people to go along with UN AGENDA 21 which is already active world wide, its just that we the people haven't been told about what our wonderful leaders have agreed to without asking or telling us about it. More on evil UN Agenda 21 here http://www.f21sc.net Last edited on 10:04 pm by Robodoon  "...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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I don't think so, and I have been watching since the 1950s. I think the UN Agenda 21 and Bush's NAU, and the CFR's NWO are all extremely evil. I also believe the same for some rich corporations who usually support both sides in elections and wars. They wish you to think that humans have no planetary impact on climate, and can pay a scientist of formerly good reputation enough to support them. They are the major corporations for fossil fuels. Very few are really swayed by them anymore, and the worst case and beyond is being recorded by actual data. Even the main group that have recently said a 23" ocean level rise and 8-9*F temperature rise by 2100, have not really looked at the totality of data and the newest with methane release as a feedback loop that has definitely started. The estimates become those for 2050, and the 2100 estimates are an unlivable planet for most of the species we depend on whether we know it or not in this giant interconnected ecological niche of humanity. As an eco-biologist/geologist and more with so many years of observation and study, sure, I would wish it was different than it is. I wish that 2/3 of the soil and groundwater wasn't gone, too. I wish pollution wasn't so rampant that mercury is in fish in our hard to get to pristine mountain lakes, and actually dusting the entire planet from dirty coal burning. I wish the oil companies with plastics industry wasn't producing enough toxic plastics to kill everyone on Earth hundreds of times over if it was burned..... These are all real things(attempted to be) hidden by the industries that profit from fossil fuels and more and more people (consuming customers).
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Playing to a different drummer
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http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/article.php?sid=394 All of this is chilling too me. 
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." - Plato |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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moguitar wrote: I don't think so, and I have been watching since the 1950s. I think the UN Agenda 21 and Bush's NAU, and the CFR's NWO are all extremely evil. I also believe the same for some rich corporations who usually support both sides in elections and wars. They wish you to think that humans have no planetary impact on climate, and can pay a scientist of formerly good reputation enough to support them. They are the major corporations for fossil fuels. I just wrote you a huge reply, and it didn't take. I'll try again in a few. MAN that makes me mad, after all that work and I get an error on my post. Stay tuned, I had a really good response for you. but for now what are your thoughts on this http://www.sovereignty.net/p/clim/cctutorial.htm
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/article.php?sid=394 Yeah, its crazy isn't it. Thats posted from my friends in Santa Cruz where I grew up. Santa Cruz was a Agenda 21 test ground even before it passed the UN, they were testing it in Santa Cruz..under "Measure C." Here is something interesting The Area Congressman, lying on film that he knows about UN Agenda 21. But the person asking him is a friend of mine, who works with Michael Shaw who was on the Starting boards for Agenda 21 in santa cruz. The person asking the questions has Sam Farrs signed documents "THANKING" the people on the board "Michael Shaw" for moving forward with Agenda 21. Michael Shaw now spends most of his time trying to stop what he helped empower, he like the others were lied to about the real intentions of the program, it wasn't to save a thing, it was all about controlling peoples lives from caddle to grave...and that is just what UN Agenda 21 does. SAM FARR ON FILM  < ANTI AMERICAN, PRO GLOBALIST, TRAITOR TO THE USAhttp://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/media/farr.php NEW LINK TO FARR ON VIDEO Agenda 21 is global socialism sold via an environmental bent. "Agenda 21 is a 40-chapter UN document to reorganize the world around socialist, command and control regulation."Michael S. Coffman, Ph. D. PLEASE LOOK HERE http://www.takingliberty.us SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT: CREATING CRISIS, SHORTAGE AND A POLICE STATE http://www.newswithviews.com/Shaw/michael1.htm http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/guide.pdf See this Link for a Guide on Agenda 21 for Public Officials... Help get the word out!! http://www.robodoon.com/global_un_agenda_21.htm Last edited on 12:15 am by Robodoon "...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Playing to a different drummer
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Robodoon wrote:JustifiedByFaith wrote:http://www.freedom21santacruz.net/site/article.php?sid=394 Luke 21:25-28 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
"We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light." - Plato |
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Luke 21:25-28 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” Indeed it does... but you're looking in the wrong way--- just as the 1st century Jews did, you believe you know what will happen... and in your pride and surety of your knowledge, you're wrong.
Turn thou unto God and say: O my Sovereign Lord! I am but a vassal of Thine, and Thou art, in truth, the King of kings. I have lifted my suppliant hands unto the heaven of Thy grace and Thy bounties. |
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