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24HourForums.com > Supported Forums > Robodoon's New World Order Zone > Wash. State to Test 'Enhanced' Licenses |
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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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Wash. State to Test 'Enhanced' Licenses AP | March 24, 2007 CURT WOODWARD SEATTLE -- High-security driver's licenses aimed at letting U.S. citizens return from Canada without a passport could be adopted elsewhere if Washington state's experiment works, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said. The pilot project, signed into law by Gov. Chris Gregoire and formally approved by Chertoff on Friday, calls for Washington to begin issuing new "enhanced" driver's licenses in January. They will look much like conventional driver's licenses, but will be loaded with proof of citizenship and other information that can be easily scanned at the border. Radio frequency ID chips and other advanced security features also would make the enhanced licenses less vulnerable to forgery. At about $40, they also would be less expensive than a $97 passport. Chertoff's endorsement of the pilot project comes as border states prepare for new federal security requirements mandating a passport for travelers -- including U.S. citizens -- who enter the country by sea or land from elsewhere in the Western Hemisphere. That requirement is expected to take effect between early 2008 and mid-2009; a similar rule for air travelers already is in force. Washington state officials are particularly sensitive to the new rule because of the extensive tourist traffic between the state and neighboring British Columbia, home of the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. Chertoff praised the enhanced driver's license project, and said he expects other border states to follow Washington's lead. "I'm quite sure other states that want to use the same technology and the same approach will be welcome to do so," he told a news conference. "The whole idea here is giving a series of alternatives, as long as they meet the same basic standards." Gregoire, a Democrat, said the enhanced ID's security features also could help combat identity theft. "It is security for our nation and our state. But it's also security for the individual," she said. The enhanced licenses will not be mandatory for Washington drivers. Those who want to get the enhanced version will go through an in-person interview, and will have to show proof of citizenship, Gregoire adviser Antonio Ginatta said. State and federal officials are still working out details about whether particular crimes would prevent a person from getting the enhanced license, Ginatta said. Along with being less expensive, the enhanced licenses will be available faster than the six-to-eight-week wait for a passport, Gregoire said. Canada does not have similar passport requirements for U.S. travelers heading north. But Stockwell Day, Canada's public safety minister, said Canadian officials share the security concerns that prompted the new rules. "Nine-eleven was an event of horrendous proportions that has certainly galvanized us," Day said Friday. "Canadians also died in those towers." http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/nat_id_real_id_wash_state_test_enhanced_licenses.htm Comment: NOTHING that is moving forward is for your safety...EVERYTHING that is moving forward is for controlling you.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Jesus...above every other name
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Unfortunately, I live here in Wa. State. One of the biggest leftist States in the United States. I heard this license was "voluntary"? Of course, that's how these control things start. Last edited on 12:36 am by JustifiedByFaith Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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1jester Pioneer100© Member  Pilgrim Sojourner
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I'm all for security! Bring it on; I ain't afraid of no NWO ghosts!
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Unfortunately, I live here in Wa. State. One of the biggest leftist States in the United States. I heard this license was "voluntary"? Of course, that's how these control things start. Remember we are told our income tax that goes to a private bank and not the USA was "voluntary" too... ;) But today if one doesn't volunteer, its almost the same as volunteering to go to jail. As the government says "Trust us"...but even our first president didn't. George Washington "Government is not reason; it is not eloqence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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1jester wrote: I'm all for security! Bring it on; I ain't afraid of no NWO ghosts! Actually the NWO is afraid of you...thats why all of this is happening.....got to get the chains on fast...before the people wake up.
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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Want To Watch The Game? Show Your ID Big Brother invades British football, grooms citizens for national ID acceptance Prison Planet | March 27, 2007 Paul Joseph Watson  In another example of how Big Brother is enveloping all aspects of British society, Sheffield Wednesday football club are to become the first team in the country to demand their season ticket holders show a photo ID every time they enter the stadium to watch a game. Allied with a new smoking ban that is set to be enforced next season and a scheme that encourages fans to report suspicious behavior and hate speech via text message during games, the club announced yesterday that fans will be forced to have their identity checked by the turnstile operator at each game in order to prevent supporters from sharing their season tickets by loaning them to friends or family when they are unable to attend a match. Bizarrely, the club added the proviso that season ticket holders can get a substitute ticket for their stub if they are unable to attend a game by "proving" their legitimate absence to employees at the club's ticket office. The justification cited by the club in launching this new scheme is to prevent children from sharing their concessionary tickets with adults, allowing the adults to get in at cheaper prices than they would usually have to pay. But the upshot of introducing this highly unpopular measure will only lead to more supporters feeling alienated, treated like criminals, and being forced to go through unnecessary hassle simply to loan their season ticket to a friend or relative. The club will lose supporters and lose money as a result of this scheme. Attendance figures will drop as a result of the outright ban on sharing season tickets, and supporters will be forced to "show their papers" as if the turnstile is a Nazi checkpoint. What's next? Iris and fingerprint scans to prove we're not criminals before we enter the ground? Microchip tracking tags on our tickets to make sure we're sitting in the right seat? RFID chips were inserted into World Cup 2006 tickets and buyers were forced to provide their name, address, nationality, which team they support, bank details, birth date and passport number. Several Premiership clubs are already making their supporters scan RFID-tagged tickets before they enter the ground.  This is all social conditioning for a not so distant future in which people who refuse to take a national ID card will simply be refused access to the vast majority of social conveniences and entertainment, because scanning the card upon entry will be mandated. It is important to explain to American readers that up until now Britain in comparison is far more lenient in terms of demanding identification for every single activity undertaken by the individual. When I visited America, the "land of the free," ID was demanded for everything, from buying a pack of cigarettes to renting a canoe. This is not the case in Britain, but the tide has rapidly turned over the last couple of years because Britons are being groomed for acceptance of the imminent national ID card. Problems of teenage alcoholism, social exclusion and identity fraud have been hyped by the government and media to pave the way for the re-introduction of the standardized ID document for the first time since the end of World War Two. Why has Sheffield Wednesday FC chosen to undertake a scheme that was tried in the past, when supporters who traveled to away games were forced to use photo ID cards, but later had to be scrapped due to its overwhelming unpopularity? A reader poll in the city newspaper, the Sheffield Star, which also today printed my letter of complaint that I sent to Sheffield Wednesday, revealed that 82% of supporters oppose the photo ID scheme. As one Star respondent points out , In the process of introducing a scheme that has proved overwhelmingly unpopular in the past and remains so today, and is a measure that will only drive more people away from attending games, Sheffield Wednesday FC are doing nothing than contributing to the expansion of a surveillance society that experts are now saying is putting our lives at risk . Sheffield Wednesday FC need to heed the wishes of the people who pay their wages and scrap this big brother farce immediately! LINK
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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cynicalninja Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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82% of supporters oppose the photo ID scheme ? Whenever I've seen Sheffield Wednesday matches on TV in the ground there are literally thousands of empty seats because they were once a big club but now languish in a lower division of "soccer  " (most popular sport in the world bar none - fact !)Do american sports have organised gangs of fans who go to away games just to cause as much damage and violence as they can during their visit ?, do they have extended groups of shitheads who organise themselves via E-mail and mobile phones to deliberately beat their opposing fans half to death for fun ?
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1jester Pioneer100© Member Pilgrim Sojourner
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cynicalninja wrote: 82% of supporters oppose the photo ID scheme ?No, Ninja, that's purely a continental idea, you know, the land of culture. Those crude, base colonists are extremely well-behaved, don't you know. An armed society is a polite society. Europe has a lot to learn in this regard....
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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1jester Pioneer100© Member Pilgrim Sojourner
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Vats rhang viz heffing to show da papuhs?! Zats a sign uv kooltur dont chu know? Vee must hev Ordnung!! ORDNUNG!!!!! Lissen to mee, yu bunch uv filzee svine!!! Get yused to ze new vorlt Order!!
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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as long as theyre trying to catch the terrorists, i have nothing to hide. so thank God the gov is trying to keep us safe.
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newbiecollector Pioneer100© Member  You can't fake real
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 RoboThis is a silly thread. If you are not doing something illegal, who cares who know where you are, what you look like and where you have been. If it helps security..............how is that wrong. I don't care who knows where I go, am at the time, or where I have been. and if anyone is interested enough they can come along with me and carry my bags!
Enjoy the pleasure of life Wayne |
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bg Original500© Member
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yea robo this is a lil on the ridiculous thread. im with newbie on this one. what do u have 2 hide anyway?
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newbiecollector Pioneer100© Member You can't fake real
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I might be off base BG with my reply, maybe I don't understand what Robo is trying to say. BUT..... Hey........if anyone feels the need to know where or who I am ..thats ok........plant a chip in my arm. I don't care.......... especially if you will come over early and get the dang coffee on.
Enjoy the pleasure of life Wayne |
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bg Original500© Member
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some ppl on this site are into fearmongering, and as pres bush said, "we shouldnt tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories that shift the blame away from the guilt."
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Robodoon Original500© Member God Fearing Patriot
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bg wrote: as long as theyre trying to catch the terrorists, i have nothing to hide. so thank God the gov is trying to keep us safe. But BG we are the terrorists. Today's "Terrorist" means those that want truth.
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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