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Aethelred wrote: I am glad that the Baha'is are here and I fully support your right to discuss your religion.

However, I choose not to enter into those debates because I feel that it is not possible to reach any common ground or move beyond the "we are right and you are wrong" mentality that many Baha'is seem to have.

I believe that my wife would agree with you that I complain too much....

Hi again! 

Thanks for your kind words!  :-)

I would humbly suggest that it's eminently possible to find common ground, though, and disagree that we tend to have an "I'm-right-you're-wrong" atitude!  If anything, I suspect our attitude is more like "After investigation, I'm satisfied my convictions are OK; and I hope yours are, too!"

And far be it from me to argue with your wife!  :-S

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Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

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Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.

All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.

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cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

Your comments....

 


Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.

All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.

:zzz:   

 

But Harvey is soooo cool!



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cdmead wrote: But Harvey is soooo cool!



Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you" and that's enough for me.


That's what it's all about, cmead, the message of both Christ and Bahá'u'lláh: LOVE.  :heartbeat:




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Britt wrote: You are free to believe whatever you wish, dear Robodoon.  Obviously, I disagree with your point of view.  It is pointless to state the many reasons why as it has been done countless times before by myself and other Bahá'ís here.  Accepting Bahá'u'lláh was the best choice of my life and I thank God for this bounty every day.  I do not expect you to support my decision.  You believe what you believe, and I believe what I believe.  There is only one God, in any case, and He loves us all.  I prefer to embrace the oneness of all people than divide them and place them in boxes.  You think I am delusional or misled, and I believe you are a nice fellow adhering to some kooky ideas.  I don't think there is anything else to say, really.  Surely, you will post falsehoods about my Faith and I, along with other Bahá'ís, will attempt to address them lovingly.  That is really all we can do.  I love all the Messengers of God, including Bahá'u'lláh and Christ, and I believe we are all one human family.  Your arguments to the contrary have no affect upon me.  I wish you happiness, and I pray that your heart will soften.  The rest is up to God. 

Have a happy day!  :D

 


Well Britt, I know your a nice person and I have no doubt that most of your faith are the same. My point is that your faith is a fancy trick. Remember the devil comes as an angel of light...and your faiths connections to the UN and their global plans for religion should bother you...but they don't seem to.

I have nothing against any of you guys as people, May God bless you all....but the biggest blessing you could gain is Jesus Christ as your lord and Savior...their is no need for another.

If I remember right, you guys seek heaven on earth?...am I right...well thats a new age base idea....man is not going to bring heaven on earth.

You and me disagree on our faith...but please understand I hold nothing against you as a person, I just say your being misled. ;)




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

Your comments....

 

I agree but I don't have the energy today to discuss it.

I'll crank it down ;)




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Aethelred wrote: I am pretty well sick of all things Baha'i, call it Baha'i fatigue if you will.  They will say something and someone else will come along with a dozen logical reasons they are wrong.  They will say something along the lines of "you can't question the way God works," "you don't understand the scriptures of you faith," "you have to empty your cup" or "recorded history is wrong" and then make the same statment three posts later!

While most of the Baha'is here seem to be nice people and I like them, talking to them about religion or talking about their religion is a chore that I am completely burned-out on!

I'm getting the message, I slow this down after a few replies.




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Aethelred wrote: Robodoon started it. Tell HIM to stop discussing the Bahá'í Faith.
Hey Robo, quit talking about the Baha'is and their religion, I'm burned-out!:giantgrin:

LOL I know... I will




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Aethelred wrote: Robodoon started it. Tell HIM to stop discussing the Bahá'í Faith.
Hey Robo, quit talking about the Baha'is and their religion, I'm burned-out!:giantgrin:

:iagree: :please:

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Yes Yes... I'll just reply a little more make sure I didn't miss something. I won't bring it up for a while....

I'll just show others for a bit.....and their are lots....well most...who are in the same family




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Robodoon wrote: Pinky wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

Your comments....

 


Did you know that in old Dutch and to this day in Afrikaans, Lucifer simply means fire?

So, their faith is of fire....inspired by the fires of faith?

Just sticking my oar in here as I love the origins of words and how they become warped to a different meaning.


Well thanks and then look at what you just claimed and then look at where they are...the Dutch are by far the most sunk deep into the lies for the world...in fact they are test ground for the NEW WORLD ORDER...the kingdom of Lucifer.

Now I grew up in the USA system for the next of such.

 


Well, if you next consider the latin origins...Lucifer derives from Lucius, meaning 'Of the light'. Quite a paradox eh?

If you delve deeply enough you will discover another, older conspiricy, of which you yourself promote to this day. Dig deep enough and truth is there, but it's whether you can handle it going against everything you believe. You ask others to do this, so why not look into it yourself?

Words are funny things. They can be twisted, contorted to fit what you need them to until their original meanings are buried under a midden of lies.

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Britt wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Aethelred wrote: Robodoon started it. Tell HIM to stop discussing the Bahá'í Faith.
Hey Robo, quit talking about the Baha'is and their religion, I'm burned-out!:giantgrin:

:iagree: :please:


Well, I am glad the Bahá'ís here would never even imagine telling Christians to stop talking about their beliefs on 24HourForums.  To say such a thing would be offensive.  Funny how y'all have a double-standard? 

::huggers:: 


I don't think its that, I think people are just getting tired.

I'll bring the topic back up in 6 months or something....... but for now I'll go show other things.

Again, nothing against you, your buddies with one of my best friends, who I concider a Luciferian via the definition he gave me on what he believes...I never told him that, but at that time I didn't really have the definitions...but he is still my bud...even though I drive him crazy with my talk today.

And please be aware that the tag of "Luciferian" doesn't mean one worships lucifer, its a tag for a claim....most certainly you or my old friend to not do that.... its the claims I have the trouble with.




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Amy wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

Your comments....

 


hmmm...so this is your idea of starting over? ::questioner::

I would suggest that perhaps starting over entails a somewhat different approach, perhaps if you would agree to educate yourself on what Baha'u'llah actually teaches rather than relying on what others say He says, that might be a good beginning.

I watched the first 40 minutes of the video you asked us to watch, and then it stopped downloading, i'll try to catch the rest of it today if it will let me. 

And if you would agree to read one of these...

http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/HW/

or

http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/KI/

perhaps then we could begin a rational discussion. 

 


Well thanks, and yeah I looked....but you don't understand yet....I'm talking about being tricked...

Remember the devil comes as an angel of light....and showing up as a meany....but warm and caring...even showing the idea of love...for the sake of confusing....and taking.




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cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

Your comments....

 


Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.

All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.

:zzz:   


If God isn't in heaven...then you have no right to claim freedom and there really isn't any reason not to do as thou wilt....in that small statement your worth as a human being is put question....what I mean by that is without God all your claims as a human being really mean nothing.

I'm sorry...this will get very deep fast. ...

I like you to, I know we disagree and will continue... please don't take what I say on a personal note, I'm really not attacking you when I do these things, I'm attacking systems of belief and not people...I hope you understand that. ;)

May you find Jesus Christ....as a Christian saying this to you...it is highest thing I can say. To me this is a blessing, I hope you understand....all I'm saying is my you be blessed ;)




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Pinky wrote: Robodoon wrote: Pinky wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.

Bahai faith is of Lucifer.

 

Your comments....

 


Did you know that in old Dutch and to this day in Afrikaans, Lucifer simply means fire?

So, their faith is of fire....inspired by the fires of faith?

Just sticking my oar in here as I love the origins of words and how they become warped to a different meaning.


Well thanks and then look at what you just claimed and then look at where they are...the Dutch are by far the most sunk deep into the lies for the world...in fact they are test ground for the NEW WORLD ORDER...the kingdom of Lucifer.

Now I grew up in the USA system for the next of such.

 


Well, if you next consider the latin origins...Lucifer derives from Lucius, meaning 'Of the light'. Quite a paradox eh?

If you delve deeply enough you will discover another, older conspiricy, of which you yourself promote to this day. Dig deep enough and truth is there, but it's whether you can handle it going against everything you believe. You ask others to do this, so why not look into it yourself?

Words are funny things. They can be twisted, contorted to fit what you need them to until their original meanings are buried under a midden of lies.


What? tell me something. I understand Lucifer and what his name means...and what he does is explained in the Bible.

I think some don't understand just how deep the tricks are....

but give me your best shot ;) ...I'm pretty well informed on most systems....but I don't know everything....to say I did I would be a liar.

But peace to you... I do not mean to go after people on this...but beliefs which come from systems....I hope you understand...the tricks are very deep...but really they aren't...they are very simple. ;)




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OK I think I responded to all....so I'll let this die and bring it up at a later date for the sake of some hard workers here.

 

;)




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