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Robodoon wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.
Bahai faith is of Lucifer.
Your comments....
Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.
All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
If God isn't in heaven...then you have no right to claim freedom and there really isn't any reason not to do as thou wilt....in that small statement your worth as a human being is put question....what I mean by that is without God all your claims as a human being really mean nothing.
I'm sorry...this will get very deep fast. ...
I like you to, I know we disagree and will continue... please don't take what I say on a personal note, I'm really not attacking you when I do these things, I'm attacking systems of belief and not people...I hope you understand that. ;)
May you find Jesus Christ....as a Christian saying this to you...it is highest thing I can say. To me this is a blessing, I hope you understand....all I'm saying is my you be blessed ;)
I do hope most christians aren't as patronising and as smug as you Robo.
"Do as thou whilt ?" is that some kind of reference to your INCORRECT assertion that I am a CROWLEYIST robo ?, so you are replying to me based on so far (lets count them folks !) two lies ?
You call into question my "worth as a human being" but don't want me to take it personally ?   
If you want to get "deep" then please do so, I have yet to see any "depth" to any of your posts, unless of course they are copy and pastes of something someone else (NOT YOU) has written !
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cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.
Bahai faith is of Lucifer.
Your comments....
Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.
All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
But Harvey is soooo cool!
Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you" and that's enough for me.
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cdmead wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.
Bahai faith is of Lucifer.
Your comments....
Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.
All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you" and that's enough for me.
Many other pre-christian prophets or sons of the "creator" have said the same thing. Why weren't their words "enough for you ?"
If you claim you "love everybody" you are either mad, naive, weak willed or a bad judge of character.
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I don't love everyone, but I can usually find something to like about them. It's very rarely that I meet someone that I'd want to turn into dog food. Either way, even if I don't like them or vice-versa, they just don't bother me enough for me to care, so they don't affect me.
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cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.
Bahai faith is of Lucifer.
Your comments....
Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.
All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
If God isn't in heaven...then you have no right to claim freedom and there really isn't any reason not to do as thou wilt....in that small statement your worth as a human being is put question....what I mean by that is without God all your claims as a human being really mean nothing.
I'm sorry...this will get very deep fast. ...
I like you to, I know we disagree and will continue... please don't take what I say on a personal note, I'm really not attacking you when I do these things, I'm attacking systems of belief and not people...I hope you understand that. ;)
May you find Jesus Christ....as a Christian saying this to you...it is highest thing I can say. To me this is a blessing, I hope you understand....all I'm saying is my you be blessed ;)
I do hope most christians aren't as patronising and as smug as you Robo.
"Do as thou whilt ?" is that some kind of reference to your INCORRECT assertion that I am a CROWLEYIST robo ?, so you are replying to me based on so far (lets count them folks !) two lies ?
You call into question my "worth as a human being" but don't want me to take it personally ?
If you want to get "deep" then please do so, I have yet to see any "depth" to any of your posts, unless of course they are copy and pastes of something someone else (NOT YOU) has written !
Well you seemed very upset when I pointed out Crowley was a wicked man, you gave me the idea you thought he was kind of cool or even enlightened. Thats simply not the case, he was one of the most wicked men the world has ever seen (if he was given the power of hitler...he would have done even more evil then hitler did) and his satanic lies are affecting the children even to this day....his evil words have out lived him and so has his tricks.
What I mean by worth is your claim to being a human being and not just an animal.
I wasn't saying your not worth anything, I'm saying that mans whole claim of being something special over dogs and cats comes into question. If we are not to understand God is in Heaven and we are made in His image on Earth for a special purpose...then there is nothing wrong with doing what ever one wants, because we reduce ourselves to nothing but wild animals fighting in nature for meat.
We reduce ourselves to our flesh along....and the idea of survival in any form or path isn't out of bounds...but in that same breath you would disagree...but your only come back to that would be some esoteric high misdirection or a claim to godhood for yourself.
You are stained with Christian ideas if you know it or not via the time you live....what I was pointing out was the "not" and what it affords.
Don't worry we will talk more about this later in depth.... I'll try and make a post on it so we can focus on it and work out the details.
So much needs to be said in 3d....but 3d isn't the easiest way to do it...but for the most part thats what we have to deal with.
Peace.. ;) May you find Jesus Christ ;)
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Pinky wrote: I don't love everyone, but I can usually find something to like about them. It's very rarely that I meet someone that I'd want to turn into dog food. Either way, even if I don't like them or vice-versa, they just don't bother me enough for me to care, so they don't affect me.
Thick skin is needed for today...thats a good thing.
But what is in question is the delicate matter of truth.
Not everything is truth...but thats what the world wants to teach today.
What many people don't understand is ..."if everything is right then everyone is wrong".
Truth is a narrow path not the wide one that the world teaches today...and even teaches by the money powers that the American founders warned about.....and sadly some of our founders worked for the enemy...yes we have great shame as well...but its not over yet.
This battle is a spiritual one...I look to the day when people stop looking to the world and time for its definition.
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Robodoon wrote: Pinky wrote: I don't love everyone, but I can usually find something to like about them. It's very rarely that I meet someone that I'd want to turn into dog food. Either way, even if I don't like them or vice-versa, they just don't bother me enough for me to care, so they don't affect me.
Thick skin is needed for today...thats a good thing.
But what is in question is the delicate matter of truth.
Not everything is truth...but thats what the world wants to teach today.
What many people don't understand is ..."if everything is right then everyone is wrong".
Truth is a narrow path not the wide one that the world teaches today...and even teaches by the money powers that the American founders warned about.....and sadly some of our founders worked for the enemy...yes we have great shame as well...but its not over yet.
This battle is a spiritual one...I look to the day when people stop looking to the world and time for its definition.
I'd have to say I agree with you there. I remember being a child and thinking 'Just because the majority agree, it doesn't make them right.' I think that's when I started thinking for myself instead of going with the crowd.
And yes, material values are deceptive, they don't make us happy or fulfilled past the brief newness of pleasure...you have to find that within yourself. Okay, your path is not mine and never will be, but I can see where you're coming from.
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But what is in question is the delicate matter of truth.
Not everything is truth...but thats what the world wants to teach today.
What many people don't understand is ..."if everything is right then everyone is wrong".
Truth is a narrow path not the wide one that the world teaches today...and even teaches by the money powers that the American founders warned about.....
I find that pretty insightful thinking!
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Pinky wrote: Robodoon wrote: Pinky wrote: I don't love everyone, but I can usually find something to like about them. It's very rarely that I meet someone that I'd want to turn into dog food. Either way, even if I don't like them or vice-versa, they just don't bother me enough for me to care, so they don't affect me.
Thick skin is needed for today...thats a good thing.
But what is in question is the delicate matter of truth.
Not everything is truth...but thats what the world wants to teach today.
What many people don't understand is ..."if everything is right then everyone is wrong".
Truth is a narrow path not the wide one that the world teaches today...and even teaches by the money powers that the American founders warned about.....and sadly some of our founders worked for the enemy...yes we have great shame as well...but its not over yet.
This battle is a spiritual one...I look to the day when people stop looking to the world and time for its definition.
I'd have to say I agree with you there. I remember being a child and thinking 'Just because the majority agree, it doesn't make them right.' I think that's when I started thinking for myself instead of going with the crowd.
And yes, material values are deceptive, they don't make us happy or fulfilled past the brief newness of pleasure...you have to find that within yourself. Okay, your path is not mine and never will be, but I can see where you're coming from.
Agree up until the self thing...you see the self thing is part of the trick.
If you expand that thought...it might help you understand what I'm saying.
ie " WHAT IS SELF"
this is a great deception that is brought to us...... take a little time.
I certainly hope we are not in disagreement forever...because the truth is coming down...and the truth by definition means not everyone is right.
Truth brings division....thats just a fact of truth.
but thanks for the response.
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Greetings!
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If I remember right, you guys seek heaven on earth
What you obviously overlook (or downplay) is that this is exactly what Christians have been praying for for millenia!
So sad that you pray "Thy Kindom come; Thy will be done ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN," and yet when it happens and we endeavor to establish it, you have nothing but attacks and condemnation for us! :-(
How sad.
And why are we working to do this?
It's because, as the Baha'i saying goes (including, BTW, an egregious Baha'i pun):
THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH
.....(some assembly required).....
Peace,
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Bruce D. Limber wrote: THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH
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Love it!
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Hi again!
Robodoon wrote:
Remember the devil comes as an angel of light....and showing up as a meany....but warm and caring...even showing the idea of love...for the sake of confusing....and taking.
Sorry, but according to the Bible itself, you're wrong about this!
As you well know, Jesus asserts "By their fruits ye shall know them" (and Galatians lists some of the fruits).
But the Bible also teaches that the devil can't use truth because there is no truth in him! (John 8:44. Because Baha'u'lah proclaims Jesus as the Son of God and the Christ as well as passing the critical test in First John 4:2, He therefore is of God and cannot be against Him because the "fruits" of a prophet cannot be mixed! (Matthew 7:15-18) As the Bible itself says, "Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. Because Baha'u'llah teaches all must acquire the Fruits of the Spirit listed in Galatians (and also demonstrated them in His own savrificial life), He therefore cannot be a false prophet!
Further, God is not the author of confusion. (I Corinthians 14:33) Therefore, God will not cause confusion, and the accusation of partial truths in the Baha'i Faith being somehow mixed with poison is non-Biblical and therefore false!
End of story. Q. E. D..
We take the bibles word for this.
Perhaps you prefer to argue against what the Bible says. We don't.
Peace,
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Robodoon wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.
Bahai faith is of Lucifer.
Your comments....
Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.
All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
If God isn't in heaven...then you have no right to claim freedom and there really isn't any reason not to do as thou wilt....in that small statement your worth as a human being is put question....what I mean by that is without God all your claims as a human being really mean nothing.
I'm sorry...this will get very deep fast. ...
I like you to, I know we disagree and will continue... please don't take what I say on a personal note, I'm really not attacking you when I do these things, I'm attacking systems of belief and not people...I hope you understand that. ;)
May you find Jesus Christ....as a Christian saying this to you...it is highest thing I can say. To me this is a blessing, I hope you understand....all I'm saying is my you be blessed ;)
I do hope most christians aren't as patronising and as smug as you Robo.
"Do as thou whilt ?" is that some kind of reference to your INCORRECT assertion that I am a CROWLEYIST robo ?, so you are replying to me based on so far (lets count them folks !) two lies ?
You call into question my "worth as a human being" but don't want me to take it personally ?
If you want to get "deep" then please do so, I have yet to see any "depth" to any of your posts, unless of course they are copy and pastes of something someone else (NOT YOU) has written !
Well you seemed very upset when I pointed out Crowley was a wicked man, you gave me the idea you thought he was kind of cool or even enlightened. Thats simply not the case, he was one of the most wicked men the world has ever seen (if he was given the power of hitler...he would have done even more evil then hitler did) and his satanic lies are affecting the children even to this day....his evil words have out lived him and so has his tricks.
I wasn't upset, I have taken an interest in Crowley's life and work over the years because good or bad or somewhere in between he was an interesting person. I do not think Crowley was "cool" my interest in him stemmed from a project I did at college about the so called "dangers" of the occult. I read books of ALL kinds all of the time because I have a thirst for knowledge of ALL kinds, Reading the works of Crowley doesn't make me a Crowleyist anymore than reading the bible would make a christian.
"The wickedest man in the world" was a title Crowley invented for himself as an aid to self promotion. As for what Crowley would have done if he was given Hitlers power ?, that same question could be asked of any historical "bad guy" !.
As for his satanic lies ? (he did write a book called the "book of lies" a series of cryptic tongue in cheek encoded poems, verse and scenarios) I'll try and put this in as simple terms as I can so you can wrap your melon around it Robo.
ALEISTER CROWLEY WAS NOT A SATANIST...........
You may consider this a case of semantics and may ask yourself the question "why does ninja bother to defend this "evil man" ?". I'm not defending him, I am not a thelemite, or member of the O.T.O, I am merely correcting what I KNOW to be inaccuracies you have posted about him.
He had many other faults you could pick at Robo, his bisexuality is something I would presume you find distasteful, his addiction to narocotics, his arrogance, his selfishness, his hedonistic nature, his obsession with sexual perversions of most kinds (unlike many men of the cloth and servants of god he never practised child abuse though however). Clearly Crowley was no angel, that is obvious, but who was he ?, I think I have more objective insight in to that particular question than you do.
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Robodoon wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: cynicalninja wrote: Robodoon wrote: Because of trying to live and my folly...I messed up the last post..so let us start a new.
Bahai faith is of Lucifer.
Your comments....
Again ?, I like you Robo and your forum (no really !) but you are starting to sound like a stuck record sometimes.
All this to me is just people arguing over who has the best imaginary friend.
If God isn't in heaven...then you have no right to claim freedom and there really isn't any reason not to do as thou wilt....in that small statement your worth as a human being is put question....what I mean by that is without God all your claims as a human being really mean nothing.
I'm sorry...this will get very deep fast. ...
I like you to, I know we disagree and will continue... please don't take what I say on a personal note, I'm really not attacking you when I do these things, I'm attacking systems of belief and not people...I hope you understand that. ;)
May you find Jesus Christ....as a Christian saying this to you...it is highest thing I can say. To me this is a blessing, I hope you understand....all I'm saying is my you be blessed ;)
I do hope most christians aren't as patronising and as smug as you Robo.
"Do as thou whilt ?" is that some kind of reference to your INCORRECT assertion that I am a CROWLEYIST robo ?, so you are replying to me based on so far (lets count them folks !) two lies ?
You call into question my "worth as a human being" but don't want me to take it personally ?
If you want to get "deep" then please do so, I have yet to see any "depth" to any of your posts, unless of course they are copy and pastes of something someone else (NOT YOU) has written !
What I mean by worth is your claim to being a human being and not just an animal.
I wasn't saying your not worth anything, I'm saying that mans whole claim of being something special over dogs and cats comes into question. If we are not to understand God is in Heaven and we are made in His image on Earth for a special purpose...then there is nothing wrong with doing what ever one wants, because we reduce ourselves to nothing but wild animals fighting in nature for meat.
We reduce ourselves to our flesh along....and the idea of survival in any form or path isn't out of bounds...but in that same breath you would disagree...but your only come back to that would be some esoteric high misdirection&nbs |
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