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I remember a line from a movie. "if there is no one else out there, it would be an awful waste of space"

 

Oh and one more thing...Here is my favorite Trek list:  Next Generation; Voyager; Enterprise; any of the movies.





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Hi Marie5656  Thanks for the imput, I'm a fan of all those myself but I like Babylon 5 even more. 

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In the Air Force, one of the duties required of all pilots is to spend a week (on a rotating basis) doing what is called "alert duty".  During that time, you are required to be in your flight suit and be prepared to fly at a moment's notice.  You can travel around the base, but most of us chose to stay at the "alert shack" which was a small building at the end of the runway.

It was quite comfortable, outfitted with a foosball table, a couple of pool tables, a big screen TV, and tables for cards, etc.  The other room held bunks and toilet facilities.  It was generally a boring duty.  But twice a week, we would run a "scramble" alert.

All the pilots would rush out of the building to the planes that were parked just outside.  The aircrews would already have the planes started by then, and you would just jump into the cockpit and takeoff nose-to-tail, seeing how fast you could get off the ground.

Usually, 99% of the time, you would just fly afterburners-on to a given coordinate, then be told it was an exercise and to fly back home. We usually liked that because in the absence of a given mission, we could have practice dogfights on the way home or engage in other non-permitted behavior such as flying low to the ground with transponders turned off.

Occasionally, you'd have to identify an unidentified aircraft, which usually turned out to be a stupid smuggler or an off-course civilian. They were always more than happy to comply with instructions when surrounded by fighter aircraft. (We intentionally flew VERY close to them to make them even more nervous.)

Then there were the other times...

I've come screaming up on many "UFO's" at closure speeds of up to 880 kias before.  I seen them all, silver ones, bright lights that hang in the air, spinning cylinders with lots of details and no kind of flight surfaces at all.  Most of them fell into the 'Mexican Air Force" category.  A spinning silver plate, just like the one that flew through the Mexican Air Force's flight show a couple of years ago.

But the most impressive, by far, was the HUGE black frisbee that hovered over the mountains off the War Highway near El Paso Texas. I was flying as Whiskey 2 and my formation leader was Whiskey 1.

It was just about dusk, but there was still plenty of light.  It was hovering about 2000 ft. above ground level.  As we came up on it, I could see that it was jet black all over it's top and featureless.  It was the size of a small city. What really got my attention, though, was the underbelly which was very visible from our position at a slightly lower altitude.

The entire bottom of the object was open, a bright red light was suffusing from it.  As I watched, other smaller red lights detached themselves from the object and traveled slowly to the ground.  There, they joined many other small red lights moving around on ground level.

We closed at over the speed of sound, chattering to each other over the mics. 

"Whiskey 1, I have a bogey in sight, and what a bogey it is too! Do you confirm? Over."
 
"Uh, yeah, Whiskey 2, I'm seein' it, but I'm not believin' it. Request instructions from RAPCON, Continue...ummm....closing with bogey"

"Roger, Whiskey 1, I'm closin', but I'm not lovin' it. SierraHotel.... that thing is HUGE!"

As our DME (Distance Measured Equivalent) closed to 15 miles, suddenly all the red lights on the ground lifted off and streaked to the underside of the Gigantic Black Frisbee. In just four seconds, the Black Frisbee took off straight up at what had to be a 100G climb rate.  (far beyond human endurance or the abilites of any known aircraft) The bogey shot off so fast we could hear the booming - thunder sound of air falling into the vacuum it made plowing through the atmosphere.  In seconds it was gone.

"DAMN! Whiskey 1, did you see that? Where did it go?"

"Affirmative, Whiskey 2, the bogey took off like the space shuttle, I have no joy, can you see it?"

'Negative Whiskey 1, it's in the twlight zone!"

"Roger that, Whiskey 2, RTB (Return To Base) and chalk up another UFO with negative contact."

That was pretty much how it went of most of the time. Since I’ve been a civilian, I’ve seen a UFO again, but that’s another story.




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In 30 years of flying (Asia, Europe, all over the USA, night and day), I never saw a UFO. Looking for them on camp outs many times, in report areas---nothing. I wanted to see one, maybe that was it. Everything, strange or not, was identified.

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Hi Saint thank you very much for sharing that, I have never heard such a good account,

my I share that on my other board? 
 

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Hi moguitar I've never seen one either.

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Recently, a moon of Saturn was found to have the color signature of frozen organic material on the surface, and we all know the evidence of frozen simple-celled organisms existing on the surface of Mars.
having the "color signature" of organic material or having organic material is a VERY long way from having life.  I thought the "Mars Rock" was pretty interesting when the news broke in 1996, however there is a lot of dispute as to the true nature of that rock.

Recently, astronomers located color signatures of chemical compounds called "polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons" involved in the formation of RNA, the ancestral genetic material of DNA, the building-blocks of life on earth.
Going from polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons to RNA and then to DNA is another huge leap, as one does not beget the next in either case.  It is a little like saying that because you have water you must have fish and because there are fish a full fish dinner must be near.

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Eh Aethelred were are these quotes coming from I wasn't able to find them on this thread and I'm confused, did you mean to start a new thread?

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Aethelred wrote: Going from polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons to RNA and then to DNA is another huge leap, as one does not beget the next in either case.  It is a little like saying that because you have water you must have fish and because there are fish a full fish dinner must be near.

Miracles abound in the universe but only by the leave of God.  Just because the building blocks of life were available during the infancy of our planet was no guarantee life would begin.  It was God who turned a collection of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons into life.  He provided the mechanism. 

Point is, don't discount the possibility of God's Hand in the formation of life on extrasolar planets.  His power is Infinite, thus such an event is a distinct possibility.  By scientific standards, the miracles of the Prophets should not have happened, right?  And yet they did, by the Grace of God. 

You never know, Aethelred.

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You never know, Aethelred.
True, you never know.  I would love to see us find life somewhere in space, I just don't think we will.

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Sure thing, Para...feel free to post my post. I'll truly never forget that. It still makes my hair stand on end to this day. The thing was MASSIVE!




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Thanks Saint, Im with you its one of those experiences you can't forgetno matter how how hard you try. 

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Saint wrote: Sure thing, Para...feel free to post my post. I'll truly never forget that. It still makes my hair stand on end to this day. The thing was MASSIVE!I sure wish I could have been on that flight with you.  Not only would flying jet fighters be my cup of tea, but actually seeing something I could not explain.
It still seems odd, the whole phenomenon, in so may ways.  Faster than light speed, which is against the laws of physics and somewhat proven as an impossibility, but an absolute necessity with intersolar and inter galactic travel.  So is the impossible flat artificial gravity to keep from turning to jelly by extreme acceleration.  A craft with no detectable exhaust, and an anti-gravity thrust system would lose power with the square of the distance.  Then there is the question of motivation.  Why observe us for so long and not make contact?  If conquest and resources are needed, why haven't they killed us off before we used most of the planet's resources?
Many "sightings" are actually unusual optical effects that can happen in various light conditions to curved glass/plexiglas, and in air currents that create lensing properties, and of course, the various types of lightning and electrical phenomena.  Still, even with supposedly highly intelligent and educated experts, a fairly respectable percentage are unexplained.  Yet, there should be many, many more sightings---and contact besides the reported abductions with odd medical type examination/experiments that can't be verified.
I would think, knowing human psycholgy, that in all my many tries with really wanting to see a UFO, that my mind would have made up something.  I'm relatively immune to hypnosis, so probably a sort of self hypnosis didn't happen.  Too much knowledge of optical, electrical, and atmospheric explained oddities, didn't help.
I want to still see one or more, and I would like to meet a friendly alien from another planet and find out how they do it.  It would be so nice to have warp drive and artificial gravity to get some to escape our dying planet and colonize another--this time sustainably.
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Hi moguitar

Faster than light speed, which is against the laws of physics and somewhat proven as an impossibility

Food for thought once gravity was considered a law physics that can't be broken, until they learned it could be superceded with the force of lift. 


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Yeah, and isn't there some research going on about super-cooled ceramics in a magnetic field making antigravity? I thought I read something about that.




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