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Posted: 06:09 am |
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dont be sorry...thats what this is about. 
when one is possessed, dont they also become physically affected?
channeling seems to have purpose...the spirit has something they want to say specificly.
While possession...seems to me it's not necessarily for a purpose like to communicate a certain thing but to act out?
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Posted: 06:16 am |
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Hambone wrote: dont be sorry...thats what this is about.
when one is possessed, dont they also become physically affected?
channeling seems to have purpose...the spirit has something they want to say specificly.
While possession...seems to me it's not necessarily for a purpose like to communicate a certain thing but to act out?
To me channeling is a mutually beneficial arrangement or synergistic....where as possesion is a parasitical thing.. one sided and draining.
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Posted: 06:17 am |
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um...ok...
big word alert!
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Posted: 06:18 am |
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Aethelred wrote: If I may...
I think JBF would agree that there is one form of "possession" is not evil in nature. I believe that when a person becomes a Christian, the Holy Spirit "moves in." I am not sure you could call that "possession" as it is not about control over a person's actions so much as it is about directing them in the right way to act or letting them know when they are acting in a way not in God's will. If you would call that "possession" it would be the only example of a good form of it.
Interesting Aethelred! I agree, not because your point "sounds good" but because it is biblically based. Enough said on that. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."
Matthew 24:4
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Posted: 06:34 am |
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Hambone wrote: um...ok...
big word alert!
http://dictionary.reference.com/
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Posted: 06:40 am |
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Posted: 06:16 pm |
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Hambone wrote: yes, of course you may.
thats a very interesting concept in itself. Are there different levels of possession? I guess based on what you said, there are or could be.
Thank you for allowing me to post my thoughts here, I did not want o be seen as "butting-in"
I do believe that there are different levels of possession. Setting aside the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when one becomes a follower of Christ for now: I believe that all possession is demonic in nature. A person who is a follower of Christ can not be possessed by a demon, but we can be oppressed by demons.
The sway that a demon can have over a person who is not a follower of Christ I think will vary depending on a number of factors such as what the demon wishes to use that person for, the strength of that demon, the strength of the person in question and the person's willingness to give their will over to that of the demon.
I also believe that a person can be subject to demonic possession for a long duration of time, while at the same time holding down a job, family, friendships and even hobbies. Those observing the person would have not idea that anything was not as it should be even after many years of such possession. At other times the demon seems to fully take over, cause the person to act in a manner that alerts everyone to the fact that something is not right.
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Posted: 06:24 pm |
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Hambone wrote: Very interesting story! I'm Scottish too, from way back when....always wanted to visit Scotland and check it out.
I have always wanted to visit Scotland in search of spirits myself, but I would be looking for a differant kind of spirit. I would love to visit as many Scotch distelleries as I could and sample their spirits!
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Posted: 06:26 pm |
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Hamster wrote: Aethelred wrote: If I may...
I think JBF would agree that there is one form of "possession" is not evil in nature. I believe that when a person becomes a Christian, the Holy Spirit "moves in." I am not sure you could call that "possession" as it is not about control over a person's actions so much as it is about directing them in the right way to act or letting them know when they are acting in a way not in God's will. If you would call that "possession" it would be the only example of a good form of it.
 to me this is a form of channeling...I started a thread on it somewhere in here. A voluntary "possesion" of a positive nature and positive result.
Would you agree?
I am not sure what you mean by channeling, so I don't know if I agree or ot?
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Posted: 06:42 pm |
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Aethelred wrote: Hamster wrote: Aethelred wrote: If I may...
I think JBF would agree that there is one form of "possession" is not evil in nature. I believe that when a person becomes a Christian, the Holy Spirit "moves in." I am not sure you could call that "possession" as it is not about control over a person's actions so much as it is about directing them in the right way to act or letting them know when they are acting in a way not in God's will. If you would call that "possession" it would be the only example of a good form of it.
to me this is a form of channeling...I started a thread on it somewhere in here. A voluntary "possesion" of a positive nature and positive result.
Would you agree?
I am not sure what you mean by channeling, so I don't know if I agree or ot?
This is what I posted earlier on channeling. I don't know if you agree or not?
To me channeling is a mutually beneficial arrangement or synergistic....where as possesion is a parasitical thing.. one sided and draining.
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Posted: 07:05 pm |
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Hamster wrote: Aethelred wrote: Hamster wrote: Aethelred wrote: If I may...
I think JBF would agree that there is one form of "possession" is not evil in nature. I believe that when a person becomes a Christian, the Holy Spirit "moves in." I am not sure you could call that "possession" as it is not about control over a person's actions so much as it is about directing them in the right way to act or letting them know when they are acting in a way not in God's will. If you would call that "possession" it would be the only example of a good form of it.
to me this is a form of channeling...I started a thread on it somewhere in here. A voluntary "possesion" of a positive nature and positive result.
Would you agree?
I am not sure what you mean by channeling, so I don't know if I agree or ot?
This is what I posted earlier on channeling. I don't know if you agree or not?
To me channeling is a mutually beneficial arrangement or synergistic....where as possesion is a parasitical thing.. one sided and draining.
There is a can of worms I am not sure I want to open! I don't want to offend anyone, but....
First, I would not call the indwelling of the Holy Spirit "channeling" I think it goes far beyond that as it is a 24/7 rest of your life kind of thing.
I went and read a few things on spirit channeling in the last bit and that is something I know I would not want to be involved with. To me any possible upside is vastly outweighed by what I see as a huge, perhaps life changing downside! I don't see what you could hope to gain that would make such a thing worth the risk?
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Posted: 07:18 pm |
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Aethelred wrote: Hamster wrote: Aethelred wrote: Hamster wrote: Aethelred wrote: If I may...
I think JBF would agree that there is one form of "possession" is not evil in nature. I believe that when a person becomes a Christian, the Holy Spirit "moves in." I am not sure you could call that "possession" as it is not about control over a person's actions so much as it is about directing them in the right way to act or letting them know when they are acting in a way not in God's will. If you would call that "possession" it would be the only example of a good form of it.
to me this is a form of channeling...I started a thread on it somewhere in here. A voluntary "possesion" of a positive nature and positive result.
Would you agree?
I am not sure what you mean by channeling, so I don't know if I agree or ot?
This is what I posted earlier on channeling. I don't know if you agree or not?
To me channeling is a mutually beneficial arrangement or synergistic....where as possesion is a parasitical thing.. one sided and draining.
There is a can of worms I am not sure I want to open! I don't want to offend anyone, but....
First, I would not call the indwelling of the Holy Spirit "channeling" I think it goes far beyond that as it is a 24/7 rest of your life kind of thing.
I went and read a few things on spirit channeling in the last bit and that is something I know I would not want to be involved with. To me any possible upside is vastly outweighed by what I see as a huge, perhaps life changing downside! I don't see what you could hope to gain that would make such a thing worth the risk?
OK thank you for being so honest!
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