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24HourForums.com > Supported Forums > Britt's Child Education > 'Have sex, do drugs,' speaker tells students |
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Friend Original500© Member  Peaceful In The Morning
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School Studies have come such a long way since I've been in school. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55800
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Typical sensationalism of course...nobody bothers to read this bit do they? "Why I am going to take that position is because you are going to do it anyway," he continued. "I think as a psychologist and health educator, it is more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So, I am going to stay mostly on with the sex side because that is the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy, sexual behavior." I think that is a VERY healthy attitude.
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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Hamster wrote: Typical sensationalism of course...nobody bothers to read this bit do they?   
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Learning Contentment
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In my opinion, moral education is best left to parents, and this includes information about human sexuality and drug/alcohol use. I do not think it is the right nor the responsibility of public schools to address these issues. Unfortunately, however, there are a great many parents who do NOT fulfill their moral and spiritual responsibility to inform their children of these matters. Consequently, many young people experiment with sexuality and drug/alcohol use. They lack a moral compass at home thus they have no foundation to determine what is appropriate, or discern right from wrong. For these young people, the issue of sex and drug/alcohol use becomes a public health issue affecting each and every one of us. Lacking parental guidance, these young people experiment with risky behaviors and often do not consider the consequences of their actions. As their parents will not educate them, society has a responsibility to teach them safe sexual practices and responsible drug/alcohol use. In this way, the numbers of young people living with STDs, AIDS, Hepatitis and addiction will be reduced. Without responsible parents, the schools must take on the task. The problem, for me, is imposing such education upon ALL students. My children have been raised knowing abstinence is best, and drug/alcohol use is not only forbidden but harmful. They have also been taught that, if they feel they cannot wait for marriage, I will help them find birth control and teach them responsible sexuality. God knows, I do NOT want someone entering my children's schools to say, "I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately." That message completely undermines our culture, our religious choice and my parenting. I want my child to have the option to NOT attend such a session. It was entirely inappropriate, in my opinion, for the school to make attendance at this symposium mandatory. How dare they remove a parent's right to choose for their child! I carry the moral and spiritual burden of raising my children, not public schools. Knowing a large percentage of young people are raised without spiritual and moral guidance, I know such symposiums may be useful for kids whom "are gonna do it, anyway." For the sake of these young people and the sake of society, such education is necessary. The real solution, of course, is encouraging moral and spiritual education in society, and supporting parent education courses. Every teacher knows that their influence is never as strong as that of parents, and parents know their influence is often not as strong as their child's peers. If a parent starts loving and consistent moral education early in their child's life, they have a strong chance of maintaining their child's moral health throughout adolescence. Without this strong moral foundation, however, many young people flounder and experiment with harmful substances and risky behaviors. One last comment: In my opinion, no one can be "indoctrinated" into homosexuality. People are either born gay or they are born straight. What they choose to DO about their sexual orientation is another matter. I question much of the language in this report as it seems the bias of the parents involved skewed the reporting. For example, I feel certain this so-called "indoctrination seminar" was most likely a seminar designed to teach young people greater compassion and understanding for homosexuality. No matter: The parents still should have had a choice.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Britt wrote: In my opinion, moral education is best left to parents, and this includes information about human sexuality and drug/alcohol use. I do not think it is the right nor the responsibility of public schools to address these issues. Here's one area where you and I can agree 100% of the time, Britt. You've heard me say many times that when parents learn their job and do it well and don't expect the system, society, or the schools to do their parenting for them, we just might get somewhere. Here's where I start to have some big questions. This quote, taken from the article makes me wonder when, exactly, is any drug use "appropriate"??? I've done it, I still use pot, but since when is it deemed "appropriate"? I believe that people, adult people, have the right to do to their body what they will. 14 year olds? umm....no. They are not old enough to make decisions like this or understand the repurcussions of those choices. Here's another one: First of all, any seminar for my kids that I am not welcome to is going to cause me to get my back up, especially when we're talking about kids this age. And speaking of kids this age, did it occur to any of these people that a signature by a 14-year old means exactly nothing? The whole thing is absurd, and I'd have major issues with the school and the person giving these seminars, psychologist or not. It wouldn't take a shrink to be able to figure out that my reaction would be anger. First anger, then I step it up to causing bodily harm. Is the education it took for him to become a shrink going to do him a damn bit of good in the hospital? I'm thinkin'....no.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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UsedToRide wrote: First of all, any seminar for my kids that I am not welcome to is going to cause me to get my back up, especially when we're talking about kids this age. And speaking of kids this age, did it occur to any of these people that a signature by a 14-year old means exactly nothing? I agree with you. Unfortunately, many states support the right of minors to receive such information without parental consent or knowledge. In my own state of New Mexico, for example, a pregnant teenager does not have to inform her parents of her pregnancy. If she receives prenatal care or has an abortion, the parents need not be notified. The same goes for public health offices offering birth control, and methadone clinics offering clean needles and methadone. In fact, I know a twelve year-old in town who did not even appear pregnant before she gave birth. He parents were shocked when the baby was born. To her credit, the twelve year-old sought prenatal care throughout the pregnancy, but how is it that a twelve year-old CHILD was not reported to her parents for being sexually active or pregnant? The clinic providing care said (verbatim), "It is not the parent's business." This is insanity.
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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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Friend wrote: School Studies have come such a long way since I've been in school. Yep because schools aren't about the 3 R's now a days, they are about making global citizens...ie "Slaves who will enjoy their slavery" you might like this site http://www.edwatch.org/
"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Without Jesus we fall short...
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Friend wrote: School Studies have come such a long way since I've been in school. I saw this on the O'Reilly Factor" last night. It's all part of the indoctrination of children into the new politically correct American Society through the Public School System.
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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Britt wrote: In my opinion, moral education is best left to parents, and this includes information about human sexuality and drug/alcohol use. I do not think it is the right nor the responsibility of public schools to address these issues. I will give you a thumbs up on this portion of your post . The other parts are questionable. It's a touchy subject.
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Britt wrote:In my opinion, moral education is best left to parents, and this includes information about human sexuality and drug/alcohol use. I do not think it is the right nor the responsibility of public schools to address these issues. The reason I suggest schools may be a forum to teach responsibile sexuality to sexually active teens is that these young people are not receiving moral guidance at home and need education to avoid death and pregnancy. It is an unfortunate reality. Ideally, these young people would receive moral and spiritual guidance from their parents and faith communities, and learn to make healthy choices in regards to sex and drugs/alcohol. Sadly, many young people do not have such support. Young people who experiment with drugs and sex are a threat to public health. Many of them are ignorant of the consequence of their behavior and increase the numbers of unmarried teenaged mothers, drug addicts, and sufferers of STDs like AIDS. If they are going to engage in these activities, they should do so responsibly. It is terrible that none of the caretakers in their lives are guiding them to a more sensible path. In the absence of parental guidance, such children fend for themselves. Then, their problems become our problems. It is tragic for all concerned. Children raised by teenaged mothers often (but not always) have developmental delays and poor nutrition. If their teenaged mother is a drug addict, their lives are further affected. JBF, I certainly do not want sex education and information about drug/alcohol use in the schools. Young people without moral guidance, however, are going to engage in these activities. They must do so responsibly, however, or we will all pay the price. My problem with the high school mentioned is that they made the classes mandatory. A parent should have the right to say, "No, my child does not need the class. I am the defender of their moral education and will instruct them as I see fit." As you say, it is a thorny issue.
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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UTR WROTE: Here's one area where you and I can agree 100% of the time, Britt. You've heard me say many times that when parents learn their job and do it well and don't expect the system, society, or the schools to do their parenting for them, we just might get somewhere. Outstanding post. I couldn't agree more. I've got my hands full enough, just trying to teach Algebra. 
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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In my own state of New Mexico, for example, a pregnant teenager does not have to inform her parents of her pregnancy. OK...to be fair to New Mexicans, (which actually is a part of the United States) we only just got phones the other week, and we still think that cell phones are what convicts get to use, P.E. stands for "Pony Express" and there are only 48 states in the Union of which we were the last to join. So give us a break already, Britt! 
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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Saint wrote: In my own state of New Mexico, for example, a pregnant teenager does not have to inform her parents of her pregnancy. HAHAHAHA! Pass the green chili, Dude.
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bjork73 Pioneer100© Member  Official Forum (T)reasoner
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Britt wrote: In my opinion, moral education is best left to parents, and this includes information about human sexuality and drug/alcohol use. I do not think it is the right nor the responsibility of public schools to address these issues. Unfortunately, however, there are a great many parents who do NOT fulfill their moral and spiritual responsibility to inform their children of these matters. Consequently, many young people experiment with sexuality and drug/alcohol use. They lack a moral compass at home thus they have no foundation to determine what is appropriate, or discern right from wrong. I agree to a point Britt, but here's the rub: what about that significant portion of parents that are oh-so-glad to offer their "moral education" on topics like sex and alcohol/drugs, but those lessons are ill-formed, likely harmful, or just factually incorrect? Let's just say I feel for those kids that get abstinence-only at schools and worse at home 
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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bjork73 wrote: I agree to a point Britt, but here's the rub: what about that significant portion of parents that are oh-so-glad to offer their "moral ed | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
