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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Learning Contentment
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 Hello! The British Medical Association (BMA) is recommending obese children under the age of 12 be declared "victims of neglect" and placed "in care." In American terms, this means recommending obese children be placed in foster care. As most of you know, childhood obesity may lead to onset of Diabetes Type II and heart attacks before the age of 18. Childhood obesity is a serious problem. Do you believe it warrants removal from a child's home and placement in foster care? Is the BMA overreacting or are they using good judgement? Please share your opinions.
UK doctors believe overfeeding children is abuse - BBC Obesity has figured as a factor in 20 child protection cases this year and some doctors now think that overfeeding children could be seen as a form of abuse, according to a BBC study. The BBC said its findings were based on a survey of about 50 consultant paediatricians around Britain. Earlier this year, the case of an obese eight-year-old boy hit the headlines after social workers threatened to take him away from his parents because of concerns about his weight. Studies show Britain has the worst rate of obesity among children in Europe and the media regulator plans to ban television advertising for junk food aimed at school-age children from next year. New proposals for cracking down on obesity will be discussed by medical experts at the British Medical Association's (BMA) annual conference this month. These will include considering obesity in young children as "neglect" and taking obese children under 12 into care, according to the national Obesity Forum, an independent charity that aims to raise awareness of the problem. Dr Tabitha Randell, a consultant paediatrician from Nottingham, told the BBC it was common to see children entering puberty before they were 10 because they were obese. "I think the perception of parents is a very real problem," she said. "If you see every other child in the playground with their belly hanging over their trousers you think that's normal." The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Heath (RCPCH) said parents and children needed to be helped to understand the benefits of living a healthy, active life. "There may be a few families that give cause for concern where there are other matters of neglect or emotional harm and this is where a paediatrician might have discussions with social services," a RCPCH spokeswoman said. (Reuters)
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member 
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i apologize for responding with a link Britt, but here is my opinion. http://www.24hourforums.com/view_topic.php?id=7604&forum_id=81&highlight=is+this+child+abuse%3F
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Amy Original500© Member  ...going with the flow...
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i wonder if that's the case that prompted this decision?
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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Amy wrote: i wonder if that's the case that prompted this decision? Yes, Lady Cop is right on. Indeed, that is the case that sparked the debate within the British medical community and led to the current recommendations. From the story she linked: Dr. Colin Waine, the director of the National Obesity Forum in Nottingham, England, called his lifestyle "extremely dangerous," adding he is at risk of developing diabetes in his early teens, and cardiovascular and nervous system problems in his twenties. "He's really at risk of dying by the time he's 30," Waine said. Pediatrician Dr. Michael Markiewicz agreed. "I'm not saying they can't care for him, but what they are doing is through the way they are treating him and feeding him, they are slowly killing him," he said.
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roymerr Original500© Member  Smile!
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I have never known the government to make anything better. Now Having said that I agree that somthing should be done. The problem is not one that government can fix by removing children from thier homes.First off, who is going to decide what is obese and what is not. You would have parents putting thier kids on starvation diets to avoid having them taken away. I can see it now. Child protective services shows up and a child is 5 pounds over the limit. .Mom is put on notice that the child will be removed if the excess wieght is not dropped. Poor old mom not wanting to lose her child will sweat that kid and starve him before deadline and that would probably be worse for the kid than the excess weight. Government always screws every thing up. They should start a campaign in areas with high obesity ratios. Implement programs with the schools. Offer free advice and counseling to parents. They and the local coommunities and churches and local organizations shouls d sponsor activities to get the Kids more active. There are many many ways this can be fixed without removing children from thier homes. JMHO Roy
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member
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there's a formula to determine who is morbidly obese. it's not 5 pounds overweight. but it is life-threatening. the parents need not starve the kids, but need to learn how to feed them properly, not crap and junk food. if education would work i'm all for it. as opposed to removal. Last edited on 08:41 pm by Lady Cop |
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Marie5656 Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Just hanging out
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I picked number 3. I think monitoring is in order. So many parents say "Well, he/she will only eat cheeseburgers, fried chicken and french fries". Well...not if you don't have it in the house they won't. I hate the ones who say it is "too expensive" to buy nutritious foods. Oh...and those smokes and beers cost how much  ? Proper shopping skills and proper guidance is all some parents need.
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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roymerr wrote: First off, who is going to decide what is obese and what is not. You raise a good point, Roy. After reading the story, I also thought, "And what about the millions of obese adults living as poor role models?" How strange it would be to remove an obese child while leaving obese parents none-the-wiser. And what about obese physicians?!? Obese social workers? OBESE MEMBERS OF GOVERNMENT? If we are to condemn parents of obese children, then put the whole of Great Britain and the USA on a diet. At this time, I am considered obese by BMI standards. Thankfully, both my children are thin and active, and I know exactly what I need to do to become healthier. Many overweight people do not know how to eat properly. They believe fad diets will work and they know next to nothing about good nutrition. I agree with you: Education is much better than removing children from the home, and it benefits all. Not that anyone cares, LOL, but I recommend the book "YOU on a diet" by Drs. Roizen and Oz of RealAge fame. It is an easy and sensible approach that does not leave one feeling deprived. I have lost 18 pounds in three weeks (mostly water). If anyone is interested, the YOU on a Diet and RealAge web site is HERE.
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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Marie5656 wrote: I hate the ones who say it is "too expensive" to buy nutritious foods. Oh...and those smokes and beers cost how much I agree, Marie! It is about choices.
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member
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obesity in general is epidemic. i have noticed it's pandemic in the south. i see 400- pound females all over the place. i think it's a lack of education. and money. carbs are cheap. pasta, potatoes, etc. so it's a poverty issue and an ignorance issue.
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roymerr Original500© Member Smile!
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Lady Cop wrote: there's a formula to determine who is morbidly obese. it's not 5 pounds overweight. but it is life-threatening. the parents need not starve the kids, but need to learn how to feed them properly, not crap and junk food. if education would work i'm all for it. as opposed to removal. Im sure there is a formula for morbidly obese. And that is a problem. Who sets that standard. This would be tied up in court for years or until the kids meets the same fate as John Candy. Removing Children from a happy home is almost never a good solution. If there are other problems in the house then the obesity should be taken into consideration. Life threatening is also a matter that would require a doctors diagnosis. But who's doctor the families or the government. Im just argueing from the families point of view. I dont have the solution but I seriously doubt that the government here or in the UK have the solution either. I personally think we should have to pass a test before we could have children but thats a whole other thread....lol. Roy
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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roymerr wrote: I personally think we should have to pass a test before we could have children but thats a whole other thread....lol. 
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member
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look at that poor kid in my link....his mother is a liar and publicity whore. meanwhile, he won't see age 30.
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bjork73 Pioneer100© Member  Official Forum (T)reasoner
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Parents from lower socioeconomic backgrounds are often poorly educated on proper nutrition. Furthermore, many things such as refined carbs, other processed foods, and fattier meats are often significantly cheaper than healthier options... when trying to feed a family on top of paying for higher housing and transportation costs, good nutrition is a short-sighted but plausible sacrifice, especially when the parents are so used to eating unhealthily themselves. On top of that, many poor urban areas often have little to no convenient access to supermarkets where fresh produce and lean meats are readily available; sadly, most of what's available are convenience stores, fast food restaurants, and corner markets where the quality and freshness of produce, etc. is often questionable. Making proper choices matters, but those choices have to be made at least feasible.
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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bjork73 wrote: Parents from lower socioeconomic backgrounds are often poorly educated on proper nutrition. Furthermore, many things such as refined carbs, other processed foods, and fattier meats are often significantly cheaper than healthier options... when trying to feed a family on top of paying for higher housing and transportation costs, good nutrition is a short-sighted but plausible sacrifice, especially when the parents are so used to eating unhealthily themselves. On top of that, many poor urban areas often have little to no convenient access to supermarkets where fresh produce and lean meats are readily available; sadly, most of what's available are convenience stores, fast food restaurants, and corner markets where the quality and freshness of produce, etc. is often questionable. Making proper choices matters, but those choices have to be made at least feasible. This is absolutely true. The neighborhood I grew up in did not have a supermarket. Thankfully, our family had a car and could go to the grocery store six miles away, but most people in my neighborhood only had access to convenience stores. Sometimes, people took a city bus to pick up food at the grocery store, but it is a chore carrying several bags of groceries on a city bus. Other passengers make it abundantly clear they find you bothersome carrying several sacks of groceries on a busy bus. Most of the kids I knew subsisted on Doritos, red pop and school lunches. No lie.
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