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Amy Original500© Member  ...going with the flow...
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Seems to me that other measures could have been taken before arriving at this point.    Aug. 31, 2007, 2:13AM Colorado school bans 'tag' over harassment complaints Associated Press COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — An elementary school has banned "tag" on its playground after some children complained they were harassed or chased against their will. "It causes a lot of conflict on the playground," said Cindy Fesgen, assistant principal of the Discovery Canyon Campus school. Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other, she said. Fesgen said two parents complained to her about the ban but most parents and children didn't object. In 2005, two elementary schools in the nearby Falcon School District did away with tag and similar games in favor of alternatives with less physical contact. School officials said the move encouraged more students to play games and helped reduce playground squabbles. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/bizarre/5097652.html
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Brian Grand Poobah of Moderation 
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Amy wrote: Seems to me that other measures could have been taken before arriving at this point. Wonderful. So instead of teaching kids how to resolve conflict, we're setting up artificial situations to avoid it altogether. This touchy-feely crap really gets on my nerves.
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shirohniichan Original500© Member  Obscurius per obscurum
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Brian wrote: Amy wrote:Seems to me that other measures could have been taken before arriving at this point. Only two parents didn't object?! Why don't we teach kids that litigation is the only way to solve petty squabbles on the playground?
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Brian wrote: Wonderful. So instead of teaching kids how to resolve conflict, we're setting up artificial situations to avoid it altogether. Exactly! They aren't setting up kids for the real world, they are giving them the illusion that an assumed conflict can be swept under the rug and doesn't have to be dealt with. Rules aren't followed, conflict can't be solved so simply, and the parents agreeing to this action are just exacerbating the problem. Things work very differently in real life.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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Amy wrote: Running games are still allowed as long as students don't chase each other, she said. You know, because, that would be very unnatural.
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Marie5656 Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Just hanging out
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First Dodge ball, now Tag. What's next? ban Duck Duck Goose because the kid who is picked as the goose will feel picked on? Or is it demeaning to Geese? I know, lets ban singing...the kids who do not have good singing voices may feel picked on.
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shirohniichan Original500© Member Obscurius per obscurum
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Red Rover is also damaging to kids' self esteem because some aren't asked to come over. Clearly the best solution is to put children in individual padded, sound-proof cells so they don't get hurt by physical or social contact.
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Learning Contentment
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UsedToRide wrote: Brian wrote:Wonderful. So instead of teaching kids how to resolve conflict, we're setting up artificial situations to avoid it altogether. If we returned to the time of my childhood, I would agree, UsedToRide. Unfortunately, the world has changed. More neglected and abused children exist in the world, and some of these children are true sociopaths. When we were kids, there were unspoken limits to schoolyard behavior. We chased one another around, even taunted one another and made one another cry, but no one was seriously injured. Those limits no longer exist. In the town I recently moved from, there was a fourth grade child known for violent and out-right sadistic behavior. His behavior went beyond the term "bully" to full-out "violent criminal." He was known to hit a child until he bled or passed out, place a child in a choke-hold and painfully fondle his genitals, even torture small animals in the schoolyard and make children look at the remains. He was one sick little kid. Time and again, parents tried to have him removed from the schools, but the "kids will be kids" attitude prevailed. Officials said, "Kids need to learn how to fight back and stop being so timid." Finally, after puncturing another child's hand with a pencil and then pummeling him until he was unconscious, authorities did something. It took one of his victims having to be hospitalized for the community to respond. Of course, he was returned to the schools after undergoing a month of counseling. Now, THAT is a loud of crap.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Well that is a sad story, and it's a shame that kids do the things they do to each other. It's a shame adults do the things they do to each other. But this nonsense about banning child's games is still absurd. As I have said many times before about situations like these, it's about parenting. If the parents are not teaching their kids the correct way to act, banning games of tag is not going to suddenly make the kids behave. It's like blaming video games and TV shows for making kids violent. Playing tag doesn't make a kid violent, having stupid parents who don't know how to raise them correctly and teach them right from wrong and not teaching them to respect people does.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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UsedToRide wrote: Playing tag doesn't make a kid violent, having stupid parents who don't know how to raise them correctly and teach them right from wrong and not teaching them to respect people does. Agreed. Unfortunately, there are a lot of poorly-parented children out there. This is why parent education is so important, even more vital than higher education: If someone raises their child poorly, society suffers the consequence, not only the child and the child's victims. If someone fails to finish their university degree, society doesn't suffer. I wish more attention were given to parent education. Tag, in of itself, is a delightful games that teaches children how to resolve conflict and get along. Banning it seems odd. Instead, I would advocate removing or counseling children who go beyond the bounds of normal playground behavior. Why deprive other children from experience a normal and useful right of passage?
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Britt wrote: Unfortunately, there are a lot of poorly-parented children out there. Also agreed. Instead of punishing an entire school for the possible actions of some kid, let's make it more difficult for people to become parents in the first place. Mandatory education before someone becomes pregnant. I think the money would be much better spent on showing the difficulties of parenting and the repurcussions of what will come back on your head if your kids don't make the grade and act out with violence and bullying. Being a parent is an honor, not a right, in my opinion. If you don't measure up, you don't get to reproduce.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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UsedToRide wrote: Being a parent is an honor, not a right, in my opinion.   
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Marie5656 Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Just hanging out
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I am reminded of a line from a movie, alot of years ago. "You need a license to drive a car, you even need a license to catch a fish..but they let any @sshole become a parent."
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24HourNut Administrator Body pillows rock!
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UsedToRide wrote: Being a parent is an honor, not a right, in my opinion. If you don't measure up, you don't get to reproduce. Come on now, getting pregnant and starting a family is not something someone else should decide or prevent (save something dramatic, like you are a murdering crack addict).
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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24HourNut wrote: UsedToRide wrote:Being a parent is an honor, not a right, in my opinion. If you don't measure up, you don't get to reproduce. Well sure. Because some of the kids that have been produced up to now and the parents who neglect them in too many ways to count have been so great to this point. So far, society has not produced wonderful kids or parents. Whatever we have been doing, or not doing, to this point isn't anything I would brag about. It's easier to get pregnant than it is to get a license to drive, which requires age limits and testing and you have to go back and pass further tests to keep your license. Kids in homes aren't checked up on as frequently as driver's licenses. There is something wrong with that. The hoops that we have to jump through for many things we do are relegated, I believe parenting should be, too.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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