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shirohniichan Original500© Member  Obscurius per obscurum
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I saw one of my daughter's social studies lessons on the table yesterday, and it really bothered me. When her regular second grade teacher had to go back to the Philippines for a family emergency, my daughter had a substitute teacher who really confused the class. One social studies lesson was "What is Your Nationality?" The teacher must have meant to ask what the pupils' ethnic heritage was, because she told my daughter she was Taiwanese (the teacher spelled it "Tiwanese", however). She asked the kids what they wanted to learn about their "nationality" and had them do research. Since the substitute teacher is gone I can teach my daughter that she was born American, raised American, and will only be something else if she renounces her citizenship. Now I know why Saint has pupils who say they are Mexican, even though they were born and raised here and are American citizens. I'd like teachers to teach my kids what it is to be American, not that they are something other than American. Last edited on 12:19 am by shirohniichan |
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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What is your daughters ethnic origin ? "American" is not a race it is a nationality. I am English but my Ethnic origin is "white european" not english, english is my nationality. Many people from many different racial backgrounds in my country consider themselves English, and rightly so they were born here. I don't know enough about your daughters background to comment but "racially" unless she is a native American indian she is not "racially" American. No american that does not have native indian roots can consider themselves truly "racially" american.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member  Official Forum Heretic
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My child is both American and Trinidadian. I have EVERY intention of teaching him that his heritage is Trindadian and he should love and appreciate the Caribbean culture and lands as well. No ethnophobes here!
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shirohniichan Original500© Member Obscurius per obscurum
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cynicalninja wrote: What is your daughters ethnic origin ? Precisely. The lesson was "What is Your Nationality?". My daughter is American. In fact, there is not even a Taiwanese nationality at this point. I hope for the day Taiwan will gain independence, but for now citizens of Taiwan are still called "Chinese" (albeit "Republic of China" Chinese and not "Peoples Republic of China" Chinese). If the teacher had created a lesson to ask the pupils their ethnic heritage, "Taiwanese" would have been partially correct. It would probably involve too much research for a second grader to answer each question in the lesson for Taiwanese, Japanese and English. If the lesson were on race, she'd have to examine her Chinese, Mongolian (if the Kiba Minzoku Theory is correct), and Anglo-Saxon origins.
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sumnom Original500© Member 
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"Kiba minzoku?" You must mean "kima minjok," surely! 
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shirohniichan Original500© Member Obscurius per obscurum
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sumnom wrote: "Kiba minzoku?" You must mean "kima minjok," surely! Only if I'm pandering to the Hangul crowd, dude.  My wife and I spoke to our daughter's teacher today during our parent-teacher conference. She said she noticed the substitute teacher's mistake in telling the class their "nationalities" were not American. She said she told everyone with American citizenship that they were indeed American, even though they came from different ethnic origins. I'm glad it got cleared up.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member 
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cynicalninja wrote: What is your daughters ethnic origin ? Okay, I just posted about this on another forum. There is no such thing as an "American Indian". They are not Indians. This was a name that was stuck on the peoples here when this land was discovered, while trying to find a shorter route to India. These peoples were Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, Shoshone, Arapaho, Comanche, Sioux, Apache, and lots of other "nations". The only "native Americans" are those people that were born here after the name America was applied to this country. Prior to that, there were no Americans.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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I have a very mixed heritage. I am English/German/Scottish/Cheorkee, but I am American 100%. Not that it makes any difference, but there was royalty in three of the four. On the Scottish side, I am a descendent of John Knox, the Scottish reformer. But, none of this makes me special in any way, it's just my heritage. I'm still American.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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muddawber wrote: There is no such thing as an "American Indian". THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! muddawber wrote: They are not Indians. This was a name that was stuck on the peoples here when this land was discovered, while trying to find a shorter route to India. These peoples were Cherokee, Creek, Chickasaw, Shoshone, Arapaho, Comanche, Sioux, Apache, and lots of other "nations". The only "native Americans" are those people that were born here after the name America was applied to this country. Prior to that, there were no Americans. As a person with Cherokee and Blackfoot in me, I'd like to thank you for debunking this idea. Some full-blood Natives that I know find the term "American Indian" offensive. I'm not one of those people, but you're 100% correct, Muddawber. Last edited on 01:00 am by UsedToRide  Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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UsedToRide wrote: muddawber wrote:There is no such thing as an "American Indian". You are quite welcome, UTR. To me, it is an offence to call these proud peoples Indians. I have the greatest respect for them, and I am truly sorry for what happened to them. You, as a biker, have probably heard or have been involved with the annual Trail of Tears Ride. I live about 6 miles from Ross's Landing which is a part of the ride. When it starts there, there might be as many as 200 bikes. It is an awesome sight.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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muddawber wrote: You, as a biker, have probably heard or have been involved with the annual Trail of Tears Ride. I live about 6 miles from Ross's Landing which is a part of the ride. When it starts there, there might be as many as 200 bikes. It is an awesome sight. I'm sorry to say that I have not. But I know one Biker who would love some information on this, if you have any, Muddawber! A link, picture; anything! Nothin' quite like the sound of a big pack hitting the throttles, is there? *sigh* Music to my ears. 
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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shirohniichan Original500© Member Obscurius per obscurum
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There is no such thing as an "American Indian". In Canada the most favored term is "First Nations."
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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shirohniichan wrote: There is no such thing as an "American Indian". I like that term, "First Nations". It's fitting.
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HappyCrazyMama Guardian1000© Member
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Sorry to butt in, but what is the favored term in America then? Native Americans? 
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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HappyCrazyMama wrote: Sorry to butt in, but what is the favored term in America then? Native Americans? No problem, you are not butting in. "Native Americans" seems to be for the most part the favored term, but before the Europeans, there was no America, so how can they be considered "Native Americans"?
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