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Amy Original500© Member  ...going with the flow...
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"In our world most people believe that their way, or their religion, race, or nationality is better than that of others. This paradigm of exclusivity, fragmentation and disunity is perpetuated in all of our societal structures. Our education system is one area where competition and the pursuit of success at the expense of others is harnessed. Not so in the town of Little Hampton, England, where Margaret Appa has implemented a method of teaching that is based on mutual support and the belief that we each have unique gems, talents and insights that are not threatening to others but mutually enriching." http://www.doubletake.tv/cms/redefining-education-english
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Robodoon Original500© Member  God Fearing Patriot
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Amy wrote: "In our world most people believe that their way, or their religion, race, or nationality is better than that of others. This paradigm of exclusivity, fragmentation and disunity is perpetuated in all of our societal structures. Our education system is one area where competition and the pursuit of success at the expense of others is harnessed. Not so in the town of Little Hampton, England, where Margaret Appa has implemented a method of teaching that is based on mutual support and the belief that we each have unique gems, talents and insights that are not threatening to others but mutually enriching." Free people are never equal, and equal people are never free. Truth is not a lie, and lies are not truth. Good and evil can not be friends. I don't know Amy, sounds pretty globalist based to me. I went to school via this sort of ideas, and you know what, it provided the LCD for all.... it didn't make people better, it made people worse. In America we use to think we were the best, not today and look what has happened to us now with all this mushy stuff. I saw these ideas of non competition when I grew up. People would put up their art and you were suppores to say "isn't that good", "well done" etc....but the fact is some people suck at some things and should not be praised for doing shoty work....but in another talent they may excel and that should be praised as good. We are all not the same, each have talent, but giving praise to be PC... hurts everyone and actually makes things worse for everyone. Let those who are good at what they do be good at it, and those that aren't go find what you are good at, and then find praise. Last edited on 10:05 pm by Robodoon  "...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US, ...conspiring with others around the world to build ...-- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." David Rockefeller |
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24HourNut Administrator  aka Frank
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Amy wrote: "In our world most people believe that their way, or their religion, race, or nationality is better than that of others. This paradigm of exclusivity, fragmentation and disunity is perpetuated in all of our societal structures. Our education system is one area where competition and the pursuit of success at the expense of others is harnessed. That seems true to me. My position is that all species are born out of a primal soup of competition for limited resources and opportunities. All species are born in a war. This "defend my type" thing is at the heart of racism and other relevant issues, but it is entirely natural. This is probably an important mechanism by which species exert challenges on other species. Fighting and protecting your own is probably an innately healthy thing for species, long-term. It's an extension of the innate will to survive. It may be that humans would not be here if not for the benefits of fragmentation, specialization, and genetic filtering through conflict and survival challenges.
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I think it's interesting that this is what you got out of the video - I got something completely different. It's not necessary to praise shoddy work, but at the same time it's not necessary for a teacher to pit students against each other. I think it's every teacher's job to discover what "hidden gems" are in each of their students and to encourage those talents to develop. Like you said, we are not all the same and each have our own talents, but I think everyone can be praised for something. Maybe someone isn't good in art but enjoys it and is determined to stick with it anyway. Can't someone do something they enjoy even if they're not good at it? Why not praise that persistance? I think the key is in challenging the students to do their best - competing against their past performance and their ability instead of each other. JMO - take it or leave it. 
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HappyCrazyMama wrote: Can't someone do something they enjoy even if they're not good at it? Why not praise that persistance? That reminded me of the tale about the guy that invented the recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken. He had over 1000 rejections before he got the sale and someone would buy his recipe. He just persisted through a "never-ending" stream of failures.
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Amy Original500© Member ...going with the flow...
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HappyCrazyMama wrote: I think it's interesting that this is what you got out of the video - I got something completely different.   for saying that so much better than i could.
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shirohniichan Original500© Member  Obscurius per obscurum
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Like you said, we are not all the same and each have our own talents, but I think everyone can be praised for something. Maybe someone isn't good in art but enjoys it and is determined to stick with it anyway. Can't someone do something they enjoy even if they're not good at it? Why not praise that persistance? Yea, verily. We seem to have a difficult time understanding how to evaluate children's efforts. The touchy-feely approach is to praise everything they do to build their "self-esteem", but children quickly learn that if everything they do is "great" there's nothing worthwhile about greatness. Perhaps some educators feel that in times past adults have killed children's spirits with overly harsh criticism. What we need to recognize and praise is a child's mastery of a subject or discipline. Each child will have his own strengths and weaknesses, and what is important in how fruitful his efforts are to improve. He may still be the last kid picked at pick up games of baseball at the park, but if he can improve his fielding and batting ability that's worthy of praise. On the other hand, it does NOT mean he should get a trophy like the best player. We need to teach children that some pursuits (like hobbies) are not competitive. If one kid likes to sing but doesn't have the pipes of a little Ella Fitzgerald, the parents don't need to enter her in every junior American idol contest they can find. They can simply let her enjoy singing and sing along with her if she likes. Let children pursue their own interests with gusto and recognize they may not be straight A pupils. If a C is the best one can do in math, so be it. Encourage them to try hard to learn the fundamentals, and then they can be free to focus on the one or two areas that really interest them.
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