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Over here in the UK we having a growing issues that gets me very angry.

Because of anti-paedophilia laws my child is forced to sit next to another child who's head is so full of head lice she can't sit still from all the itching.

The teachers are powerless to act as they CANNOT touch that child's head (just as they can't administer plasters/band aids or sun cream).

I do not believe in using nasty pesticides to kill the live lice as it doesn't stop re-infection and it has also been proved that some amount of toxic substance is absorbed through the scalp and into the blood. I would have to use this method at least once a week and that is something I wont do.

Instead I find myself using the wet combing method at least twice a week. It involves applying lots of conditioner to the hair and combing with a "nit comb". The live lice are pulled out and any eggs on the hair cannot stick to the hair shaft for all the conditioner.

My daughter walks into school at 8.55am completely clear and by 3.20pm is covered again.

Is it the same in the US? Do you have these laws too? Are there any methods being taken over there to stop this? Over here it is now THE worst issue in primary schools (ages 4-11).


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Hampster in this school district, the teachers can and do take the children out of class and the office sends them home.  Before they can come back, the school has an adult go threw their hair and check for any eggs before they can return to the class room.  Also, I've found that when there seems to be an outbreak, TEA TREE OIL to shampoo your hair in seems to keep them at bay.  Try it on your little ones hair and see if it helps. 




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Our teachers used to be able to do that FGP but no longer!

Tea tree oil works for about two weeks before the head lice become oblivious to it unfortunately.

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I'm right behind you Hammy, touch wood this year my daughter hasn't had many infestations, but like you I wet comb every week, and up the wet combing if I find any evidence, every time she comes within my range I'm looking through her hair looking for the little beasts, poor child.

I know that within the school there are children that are full of them to the point where you can see them crawling across foreheads. One child who is crawling with them comes from a very under priviledged family, I'm sure the Dad just needs educating in the matter but no one dare approach him for fear of repercussions.

I have heard of the Nit nurse being able to come in and check all pupils within a classroom but the school needs signed permission slips from every parent. And of course then you get the parents that stand in the playground and say 'oh my daughter never gets them'  lol  then you get me standing there telling all and sundry, 'by the way I found nits in my daughter last night, you may want to keep checking out for them' :giantgrin: 

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Head lice are evil creatures.

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Oooh, Hammy, I know just how angry this makes you.  The kids are checked at school but that does no good when a mother sends her kid to school, knowing they have it and doesn't tell anyone.  My son has a buddy who picked it up and then the Mom called me and told me.  I was, let's just say I invented new cuss words to call her.  I didn't find any on my son but I looked up some stuff online to treat it anyway.  I wasn't taking chances and I sure as hell wasn't putting any of that poison they sell over the counter on him.  I found a treatment plan using virgin olive oil.  I'd have to go back and see where I found it, but so far, no critters on my kid.




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I am amazed that children with head lice in the UK are permitted to remain in school and infect other children!  The policy of my school district is to send children home.  My daughter had a raging case of head lice when she was eight.  We treated it once with a less-toxic anti-lice shampoo, combed out all the live fellas and their eggs, and she never had it again.  Thankfully!

My goodness, combing out lice and nits must be a weekly ritual in nearly every British household!  I am so sorry you have to do this so often.  As children with lice are permitted to remain in class and not required to treat an infestation, you are fighting an uphill battle.  I am deeply sorry, Hamster.  What a pain in the behind!  It is unfair to all children to permit this.

What is the reasoning behind this...?  How do the schools defend the decision to keep lice-infested kids in school, no matter if they treat their infestation or leave it be? 

I would really like to know how they can defend this position.




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Over here anyone within the school is not allowed to touch any of the children. We have become a nation of people afraid of touching a child that is not ours because of all the peadophile issues. It's a sad state of affairs that a teacher is not allowed to hug a child to reassure them when they have fallen or if they are just plain upset.

I had to sign a disclaimer recently as my son who is 9 and has Aspergers has a parent with him during his swimming lessons, the teachers had an informal chat with me about the fact that a volunteer parent gets in the pool with my son and may have to physically touch him to help him learn to swim.

In the summer months we have to apply sun cream to our children before they go to school in the mornings, but that sun cream will not be topped up during the day as the teachers, assistants etc are not allowed to touch the children at all.

My son also has issues when moving around the school, he is happier if he can hold his assistants hand but even that is frowned upon, I have no problem with it, he feels safer that way.

On sports days we are also not allowed to video or photograph our children.

Its a sad state of affairs over here in England, even I think twice about approaching a child I don't know, I have come across numerous children who have fallen over, or appear lost, you think twice before going to their aid as you could be accused of allsorts.

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Merry Maiden wrote: Over here anyone within the school is not allowed to touch any of the children.

If a parent gives signed permission for their children to be touched by a particular school official for the purpose of applying sun screen or patting them gently on the back, is it permitted?




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Britt wrote: Merry Maiden wrote: Over here anyone within the school is not allowed to touch any of the children.

If a parent gives signed permission for their children to be touched by a particular school official for the purpose of applying sun screen or patting them gently on the back, is it permitted?

I'm not sure, my son is classed as special needs so I guess thats why it was done in his case, but possibly if they did it for every child within the school it shouldn't be a problem. I can imagine that there would be a few parents that would refuse to sign the paperwork though.

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Britt wrote: I am amazed that children with head lice in the UK are permitted to remain in school and infect other children!  The policy of my school district is to send children home.  My daughter had a raging case of head lice when she was eight.  We treated it once with a less-toxic anti-lice shampoo, combed out all the live fellas and their eggs, and she never had it again.  Thankfully!

My goodness, combing out lice and nits must be a weekly ritual in nearly every British household!  I am so sorry you have to do this so often.  As children with lice are permitted to remain in class and not required to treat an infestation, you are fighting an uphill battle.  I am deeply sorry, Hamster.  What a pain in the behind!  It is unfair to all children to permit this.

What is the reasoning behind this...?  How do the schools defend the decision to keep lice-infested kids in school, no matter if they treat their infestation or leave it be? 

I would really like to know how they can defend this position.


it's gotten to that point over here too. (at least in some areas)

when my youngest daughter was still in elementary school.  before the children had individual lockers they had an area where all the children hung their coats, each touching the next.  It was a vicious cycle.  Get rid of them. get them again the next week.  I was sooo exhausted from nit picking.

I called the school and asked why they weren't sending the kids home anymore (which had been their policy), they said it was too rampant, they gave up trying to get control.  Kids would miss too much school and risk being held back.  I was furious. 

My daughter had beautiful, long thick hair, but i had to cut it short that year.  Luckily she liked it short, it's been short ever since. 

unfortunately even talking about those evil little critters is making me itch.  ::pull::

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Hamster wrote: Over here in the UK we having a growing issues that gets me very angry.

Because of anti-paedophilia laws my child is forced to sit next to another child who's head is so full of head lice she can't sit still from all the itching.

The teachers are powerless to act as they CANNOT touch that child's head (just as they can't administer plasters/band aids or sun cream).

I do not believe in using nasty pesticides to kill the live lice as it doesn't stop re-infection and it has also been proved that some amount of toxic substance is absorbed through the scalp and into the blood. I would have to use this method at least once a week and that is something I wont do.

Instead I find myself using the wet combing method at least twice a week. It involves applying lots of conditioner to the hair and combing with a "nit comb". The live lice are pulled out and any eggs on the hair cannot stick to the hair shaft for all the conditioner.

My daughter walks into school at 8.55am completely clear and by 3.20pm is covered again.

Is it the same in the US? Do you have these laws too? Are there any methods being taken over there to stop this? Over here it is now THE worst issue in primary schools (ages 4-11).


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4744929.stm

 

A child is sent home if detected by the school nurse here in our school district. They are then manditory out for 1-2 weeks and when they come back they are inspected by the nurse for nits (eggs) or live lice before they can enter the classrooms. We take head lice VERY serious in the states.




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Britt wrote: Merry Maiden wrote: Over here anyone within the school is not allowed to touch any of the children.

If a parent gives signed permission for their children to be touched by a particular school official for the purpose of applying sun screen or patting them gently on the back, is it permitted?


Its madness! We have to put sun cream on them at 8.30am and expect it to last all day in that heat or for a 4 year old to re-apply it!

We have to sign to give permission for them to give medicines, treat them in emergencies etc!

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Amy wrote: Britt wrote: I am amazed that children with head lice in the UK are permitted to remain in school and infect other children!  The policy of my school district is to send children home.  My daughter had a raging case of head lice when she was eight.  We treated it once with a less-toxic anti-lice shampoo, combed out all the live fellas and their eggs, and she never had it again.  Thankfully!

My goodness, combing out lice and nits must be a weekly ritual in nearly every British household!  I am so sorry you have to do this so often.  As children with lice are permitted to remain in class and not required to treat an infestation, you are fighting an uphill battle.  I am deeply sorry, Hamster.  What a pain in the behind!  It is unfair to all children to permit this.

What is the reasoning behind this...?  How do the schools defend the decision to keep lice-infested kids in school, no matter if they treat their infestation or leave it be? 

I would really like to know how they can defend this position.


it's gotten to that point over here too. (at least in some areas)

when my youngest daughter was still in elementary school.  before the children had individual lockers they had an area where all the children hung their coats, each touching the next.  It was a vicious cycle.  Get rid of them. get them again the next week.  I was sooo exhausted from nit picking.

I called the school and asked why they weren't sending the kids home anymore (which had been their policy), they said it was too rampant, they gave up trying to get control.  Kids would miss too much school and risk being held back.  I was furious. 

My daughter had beautiful, long thick hair, but i had to cut it short that year.  Luckily she liked it short, it's been short ever since. 

unfortunately even talking about those evil little critters is making me itch.  ::pull::

Yes my daughters hair is quite thick so the only way to get through it is to do it wet in the bath. I feel for you Amy!


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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Hamster wrote: Over here in the UK we having a growing issues that gets me very angry.

Because of anti-paedophilia laws my child is forced to sit next to another child who's head is so full of head lice she can't sit still from all the itching.

The teachers are powerless to act as they CANNOT touch that child's head (just as they can't administer plasters/band aids or sun cream).

I do not believe in using nasty pesticides to kill the live lice as it doesn't stop re-infection and it has also been proved that some amount of toxic substance is absorbed through the scalp and into the blood. I would have to use this method at least once a week and that is something I wont do.

Instead I find myself using the wet combing method at least twice a week. It involves applying lots of conditioner to the hair and combing with a "nit comb". The live lice are pulled out and any eggs on the hair cannot stick to the hair shaft for all the conditioner.

My daughter walks into school at 8.55am completely clear and by 3.20pm is covered again.

Is it the same in the US? Do you have these laws too? Are there any methods being taken over there to stop this? Over here it is now THE worst issue in primary schools (ages 4-11).


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4744929.stm

 

A child is sent home if detected by the school nurse here in our school district. They are then manditory out for 1-2 weeks and when they come back they are inspected by the nurse for nits (eggs) or live lice before they can enter the classrooms. We take head lice VERY serious in the states.


Hi JBF! We used to be the same over here but now they think 1 in 6 children has them!


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