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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Learning Contentment
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PLEASE JOIN US FOR THE FIRST
Thursday, 19 April 2007 Featured Guest: Jon Ivers aka "SAINT" Jon will speak on the subject of Classroom Management and Your Child. Classroom management is a collection of techniques and resources used to create an effective learning environment in a classroom. These techniques and resources range from discipline strategies and classroom rules, to student desk arrangement and learning centers. It is any technique or resource that promotes learning. Parents can benefit from these strategies, as well! To access the chat room, click the icon above. Enter your User Name and Password, then select Child Education from the rooms listed. You will be prompted to input the room password "classroom". Remember: Passwords are generally case sensitive. FEATURED GUEST BIOGRAPHY:  Jon Ives aka "Saint" on 24HourForums is the Lead Teacher of the Transition Academy, an alternative placement program for 8th grade students at Rocinante High School in Farmington, New Mexico. The Transition Academy provides remediation and improvement in the areas of reading, writing and math. Jon also serves as a Mentor Teacher and holds three university degrees: an A.S. in Engineering Technology, a B.S. in Electrical Engineering, and a B.S. in Education. In addition to his duties as a teacher and mentor during the school year, Jon teaches high school English in the evenings and high school courses during the summer. He has received numerous awards for excellence in teaching, including the Red Apple Teacher Award from the American Foundation for Excellence in Teaching. Jon is active in the United States Air Force reserves as a fighter pilot. He is well-traveled and has held numerous jobs, including corporate chef, wedding singer and D.J. Jon's hobbies include swimming, writing, and horticulture. He was born in Hollywood California, but grew up in the wilds of Montana. He is married to his best friend, Vickie.
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Pussycat Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Angel of Mischief!
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Damn! I will be at work on the coast then! (Middle of our day). I would have loved to have joined in. Saint AND a chance to talk about my kid's education. DAmn Damn Damn! But I will be there in spirit!
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Pussycat wrote: Damn! I will be at work on the coast then! (Middle of our day). I would have loved to have joined in. Saint AND a chance to talk about my kid's education. DAmn Damn Damn! Britt may be doing this again (maybe even each week), so ... 
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Pussycat wrote: Damn! I will be at work on the coast then! (Middle of our day). I would have loved to have joined in. Saint AND a chance to talk about my kid's education. DAmn Damn Damn! We'll be thinkin' of ya, Pussycat! 
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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Good Afternoon or Evening to everyone! First let me profusely apologize for the technical difficulties. Apparently my school computer is behind the times, so I'm having trouble accesing the chat room. (despite courageous effort by Frank!) But we can still talk here! The first thing that you need to know about classroom management is that effective teachers MANAGE their classroom, ineffective teachers DISCIPLINE their classroom. I’ve said it many times and heard it from many students, “Just because you know how to do something very well, doesn’t mean that you can teach it to others.” You may know how to cook a steak, but that doesn’t mean that you can run a restaurant. Cooking the steak is the last thing you need to know, the first thing you need to know is how to manage the restaurant. A teacher needs many skills: academic learning time, formative and summative testing, standardized testing, constructed responses, discipline plans and ladders, learning styles, motivational theory, record keeping, identification of learning disabilities, higher order thinking skills, due process, educational law, privacy rights, remediation, credibility, presentation, public speaking skills, and many others. Let’s go with a definition: Classroom management includes everything a teacher needs to foster engagement and cooperation from all the students in the classroom regardless of ability and to establish a productive and effective working environment. In other words, it’s everything you have to do to organize the students, space, time, and materials so that student learning can take place.
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OK, I'll dive in - what is the single biggest persistent pain in the rear "obstacle" between kids and a great education? I've heard several different positions on this.
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Britt Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member Learning Contentment
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Saint wrote: Let’s go with a definition: Classroom management includes everything a teacher needs to foster engagement and cooperation from all the students in the classroom regardless of ability and to establish a productive and effective working environment. These are excellent definitions, Saint. How can parents contribute to an effective learning environment within the classroom?
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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I'm putting the bullseye on my back here and saying it's the teacher. Most of us will nod knowingly when I say that there are effective teachers and ineffective teachers. With one, you seem to learn but retain nothing, with the other, you remember it all and can use it.
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Saint wrote: I'm putting the bullseye on my back here and saying it's the teacher. Most of us will nod knowingly when I say that there are effective teachers and ineffective teachers. It is refreshing to hear you admit that! I agree entirely.
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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How can parents contribute to an effective learning environment within the classroom? Great question, Britt! I'd say the best way for a parent to contribute is actually pretty simple and common senseical: Have consistent boundries, standards, and procedures in your home and keep your children organized. A child that comes from a disorganized home without routines and procedures (chores, etc.) will have difficulty fitting into the structure of school life.
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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On the subject of structure> Here a few of the techniques that I use to be effective in classroom management, but many would work at home too! 1. Greet the students at the door. As they come in, the teacher should be at the door asking, “How are you today?” and things like “How’s your day going?” Beginning the class with a greeting starts the class off on a positive note and shows that the teacher cares about the student and is ready to begin. 2. Engage! It is absolutely essential that the teacher engage right away. That way the procedure in the classroom becomes normal is practice. If yo engage immediately the signal to the students is that “When we get there we work.” If a teacher takes time to answer e-mails, take roll, and other housekeeping duties, the students will go into what I call “ break mode” Hey nothing’s happening right now, let’s talk and socialize. Now is will be very difficult to get them out of the mode and into work mode. Housekeeping can be taken care of later, when the students are on task. 3. Classroom organization is critical! Humans are creatures of habit! Make sure that everything has a place and that all procedures are practiced daily. After a while, they will become automatic making it easier on everyone to get the job done. I have shelves that hold each period’s books separately to avoid the confusion of looking through the textbooks and work books. Each student’s workbook is color-coded with a small label and their name for the same reason. They can grab their materials with out any loss of time. Similarly, a rack on the wall with large color coded folders is the single place to hand in all work. Never allow student to put papers on the teacher’s desk or hand them in at differing places. The result is that there is very little confusion or lost time in either the passing out of materials, or the handing in of papers. Classroom arrangement is something that many teachers don’t even think about, but it can be very important. I tend to lean towards pair learning, so I like tales instead of desks (but, of course, be on the ball. This will lead to more behavior.) I also suggest that having the teacher’s desk inthe rear of the room instead of the front is a good idea, since the trip to the front is a good visual signal to students that work is starting. It’s also an easy trap to fall into for the teacher to sit at the desk and ask the students to come up instead of going to the student. 4. Daily lesson, pages, goals and vocab should be posted prominently and timely. Each Monday, all students in my class can scan the planning board on the right side of the room to see not only every lesson that will be taught that week, but also such critical information such as whether they will need a calculator for the lesson, whether it will take place on their own paper, or in their workbook, and the basic concept they will be learning for the day. 5. The next critical part of classroom management is time management. We’ve all had boring classes where you Finnish your work a half hour before class is over. What to do now. Simple, get in trouble. “Down Time” is just asking for disciplinary issues. Plan to make sure that your class will take up all the allotted time, but don’t forget to save time for such things as resetting the classroom for the next class. In that case, let the students take responsibility for themselves. My routine consists of , “Please look around the floor and see if there is any trash. If there is, please pick it up. Push your chairs in and have a great day!” Now the room is clean and reset for the next class. Each class takes care of themselves and the room looks good all day long! Last edited on 10:48 pm by Saint A^2 + B^2 = C^2 |
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Saint wrote: I'm putting the bullseye on my back here and saying it's the teacher. Most of us will nod knowingly when I say that there are effective teachers and ineffective teachers. My son had a teacher last year for kindergarten who was terrible. She was so lazy looking and acting, always got stuff wrong in notes and on the phone, she had the "I'm over this" attitude. For example at an outdoor schoolyard event, the way she was handing out papers so that we could take our kids home early was making the parents look at each other. Over time I've learned that she is known for this and that people request that their child not be in her class all the time. She has tenure or something and retires in a year or two I believe. We have an excellent school system, one of the best in the entire state for a few things, but there is always one bad apple it seems... In any case, I believe she would make a fine example of a teacher that failed to excite the kids AND the parents about education.
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24HourNut wrote: Saint wrote:I'm putting the bullseye on my back here and saying it's the teacher. Most of us will nod knowingly when I say that there are effective teachers and ineffective teachers. When a teacher fails to engage students in learning and begins to resent having to prepare for lessons and parent conferences, it is time to retire. I am so sorry your son had to have such a lackluster teacher.
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My son had a teacher last year for kindergarten who was terrible. She was so lazy looking and acting, always got stuff wrong in notes and on the phone, she had the "I'm over this" attitude. You want to shoot yourself in the foot as a teacher? Be disorganized. I've seen teachers that had a mound of papers on their desk the size of Mt. Everest. Then papers get lost and everyone is upset. For example at an outdoor schoolyard event, the way she was handing out papers so that we could take our kids home early was making the parents look at each other. Over time I've learned that she is known for this and that people request that their child not be in her class all the time. She has tenure or something and retires in a year or two I believe. We have an excellent school system, one of the best in the entire state for a few things, but there is always one bad apple it seems... Absolutely correct. I'll be the first to say that there is "dead wood" in every school district. Some I think may have thought working with children would be "fun" and found out what it was really like and wouldn't retrain. Others just "burn out." It's a serious problem. In any case, I believe she would make a fine example of a teacher that failed to excite the kids AND the parents about education. Just your response alone has shown that she has failed in at least one critical area, public relations. A good teacher realizes that image and communication are as important to a techer as they are to a business.
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Saint wrote: Classroom arrangement is something that many teachers don’t even think about, but it can be very important. I tend to lean towards pair learning, so I like tales instead of desks (but, of course, be on the ball. This will lead to more behavior.) I also suggest that having the teacher’s desk inthe rear of the room instead of the front is a good idea, since the trip to the front is a good visual signal to students that work is starting. It’s also an easy trap to fall into for the teacher to sit at the desk and ask the students to come up instead of going to the student. Boy, do I agree! When I was a classroom teacher, I always sat at the back of the room and treated my desk as a staging area for lessons. Actually, I did not sit at it that often, LOL, as I was always busy at the front of the class. Organization was critical. As instructed by my UNM Gallup advisor, I always had an easily accessible location for student portfolios and returned work. Organization and classroom arrangement are vital to teaching success! Do you find that a clean and organized classroom environment helps calm students and keep them on task?
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