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Maybe this article would have been better served in a different forum, but I will post it here. Then again, maybe noone will find it of any interest.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/why_christianity_is_not_false.php
 


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I like that article, it has an interesting take.

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Thank you Friend...................I printed a copy to read and digest when I have more time.  I also printed "Who Created God?"  You can click on it along the right of the page.  That should be a very interesting read...............




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Read "Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography" by John Dominic Crossan, if you want to figure out the truth.

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"Is Christianity a Made-up Myth Written by the Disciples?"

of course not.

"Christianity" though, is about as useful a term as "paper" in accurately describing something.

Christ's teachings are clear to those who are sincere and humble in their prayers.

The teachings of "Christianity" vary greatly depending upon who you're asking-- and few are those who do not find justification for their beliefs in the Bible.

"Christianity" is badly warped from what it's meant to be, in 90% of the churches out there. Most are not too badly warped, but there are some well known and long-historied examples of extreme 'redesign' of Christ's teachings from the history of the previous 2,000 years.

And the average person in the US at least, who claims to be a "Christian" probably does not have a clear and complete understanding of this.

I would say that about 10% of the people who go to church at least twice a year or more and call themselves Christians actually know the history and Biblical truths of their beliefs.

Most just take the word of their minister for it and leave it at that-- complete with accepting the perceptions, upbringing, and culture of their minister, no questions asked.

 




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sirlamre wrote: "Is Christianity a Made-up Myth Written by the Disciples?"

of course not.

"Christianity" though, is about as useful a term as "paper" in accurately describing something.

Christ's teachings are clear to those who are sincere and humble in their prayers.

The teachings of "Christianity" vary greatly depending upon who you're asking-- and few are those who do not find justification for their beliefs in the Bible.

"Christianity" is badly warped from what it's meant to be, in 90% of the churches out there. Most are not too badly warped, but there are some well known and long-historied examples of extreme 'redesign' of Christ's teachings from the history of the previous 2,000 years.

And the average person in the US at least, who claims to be a "Christian" probably does not have a clear and complete understanding of this.

I would say that about 10% of the people who go to church at least twice a year or more and call themselves Christians actually know the history and Biblical truths of their beliefs.

Most just take the word of their minister for it and leave it at that-- complete with accepting the perceptions, upbringing, and culture of their minister, no questions asked.

 

Being that you are a member of the Baha'i group with known anti-christian propaganda , I caution your choice of wording on the Christian Forum.

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“…those who haven’t accepted Christ are also welcome to participate in the forum, but we expect a modicum of respect to prevail at all times; remember, “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.” --Matthew 22:39. Hence, no name calling, bad language or inappropriate graphics will be tolerated. This is not the place to attack Christians or Christianity; there are other forums where that may be tolerated but this is not one of them. This is a forum for Christians, by Christians and about Christians. The focus will be on doctrine and belief, not attacks on Christians or members of this forum. Any violation of these forum rules will be dealt with swiftly and firmly…”

 

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My apologies, JBF.

I think, however, that you don't see my post in quite the light I meant.

When I said that Christianity had become warped, I was referring to things like the selling of forgiveness, the involvement of ministers like Jackson in politics, and the things like that which are part of the history of Christianity.

Those are not things that Christ taught-- and I think both you and I agree on that.

I don't see myself as denigrating YOUR particular faith here, since what I referred to I believe are things you yourself also disagree with.

Even though you do not see the teachings of the RCC or the political actions of Jesse Jackson as being definitions of "Christianity" as far as you're concerned, many people do.

I was not trying to denigrate the Christian faith of you and people like you.

My post referred to those people claiming to be in your Faith who misuse your Faith, and are uneducated in their own "Christian" beliefs through no action but their own. 

Again, though, my apologies, and I will not participate again in this thread.




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sirlamre wrote: My apologies, JBF.

I think, however, that you don't see my post in quite the light I meant.

When I said that Christianity had become warped, I was referring to things like the selling of forgiveness, the involvement of ministers like Jackson in politics, and the things like that which are part of the history of Christianity.

Those are not things that Christ taught-- and I think both you and I agree on that.

I don't see myself as denigrating YOUR particular faith here, since what I referred to I believe are things you yourself also disagree with.

Even though you do not see the teachings of the RCC or the political actions of Jesse Jackson as being definitions of "Christianity" as far as you're concerned, many people do.

I was not trying to denigrate the Christian faith of you and people like you.

My post referred to those people claiming to be in your Faith who misuse your Faith, and are uneducated in their own "Christian" beliefs through no action but their own. 

Again, though, my apologies, and I will not participate again in this thread.
Accepted sirlamre.




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Sirlamre,  What you speak of is very true today and maybe this has been always the case from the beiginning of the Christian faith. There are many people who think what they are being tought are the teachings of Yeshua, but in reality they are being deceived. Even some of those behind the pulpit are either lying to their flock just to bring in larger groups so they can build their wealth or they may not know the true teachings themselves. How can so many people hold claim to the same faith "Christian", but yet, have different beliefs. Something is wrong!

Just go through the 10 Commandments starting at the top and many will not get past maybe #2 or maybe even #3 before they have to admit to themselves yes, I do that. Do not worship images or statues (paraphrase). This world today is very confused and I do not exclude myself from this group, but I do know that Y'shua is who He says He is.

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moguitar wrote: Read "Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography" by John Dominic Crossan, if you want to figure out the truth.I've never read this book nor even heard about it, so until then I can't make any comment except that I trust the Bible over any other book ever written, so I believe "the truth" is to be found therein.

SirLamre and Friend are right that there is a lot of deviation from scripture being touted in Christian churches, and that many Christians aren't aware of full Biblical truths.  The Bible even warns that Satan will be so persuasive and effective as to fool the elect.  So these words of caution need to be heeded by those who wish to follow Christ.




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Christ called His a "little flock," said "narrow is the way" and "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."

So yes, I agree that many have fallen away from true doctrine in the past and there are many today who either lack it or don't care enough to seek it out.

However, the future will be even worse, there will be waht is called the "Great Falling Away" in which sound doctrine is willfully cast aside.

2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

2Th 2:4 
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

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1jester wrote:
SirLamre and Friend are right that there is a lot of deviation from scripture being touted in Christian churches
This made me think of the minister in the UK who, just a few weeks ago announced that Christ did not die for the remission of sins!

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There will those those who say in that day, "Lord, Lord, let me in". And He will say, "I never knew you."

There are many who are religious. Jesus wants a relationship.:)




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This is correct JBF, it is an intimate relationship that Jesus wants. Religion is just a vague word that gets tossed about as a title, which has no meaning.


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JustifiedByFaith wrote: There will those those who say in that day, "Lord, Lord, let me in". And He will say, "I never knew you."

There are many who are religious. Jesus wants a relationship.:)

Superbly well stated.


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