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Friend Original500© Member  Peaceful In The Morning
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Maybe everyone who studies the Bible already knows that Jesus rose on saturday, but I thought we could possibly do a little study on the subject. Does anyone have any input?
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member  Ye Olde Dead King
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As best I can tell from a quick search, the Bible does seem to say that Jesus rose on the "first day of the week (Sunday)." Consider the following: Luk 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them. Luk 24:2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre. Luk 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. Mar 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Without Jesus we fall short...
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I have to agree with that due to the fact that the bible specifically said the 1st day not the sabbath (7th day) of the week. Although He may have been crucified late on weds He still needed to rise on the 3rd day at a minimum regardless of the hour in order to prove He was really dead according to Jewish laws and customs.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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this could be interesting... I guess it all depends upon your "interpretation™" of the relevant verses, as to which is the "first" day of the week.... It's clear that the Bible DOES mean the first day of the week.... but WHICH is the 'first day' exactly?? I'll just sit back and 
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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Friend wrote: Maybe everyone who studies the Bible already knows that Jesus rose on saturday, but I thought we could possibly do a little study on the subject. Does anyone have any input? Just curious Friend how saturday (sabbath/7th day) came about as the day he rose? Was He seen prior to the morning of the 1st day of the week? I didn't see anything there?
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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sirlamre wrote: this could be interesting... This should pretty much settle that in you mind: Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. Saturday was the seventh day of the week and the sabbath, thus Sunday must have been the first day of the week.
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1jester Pioneer100© Member  Pilgrim Sojourner
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Friend, I'm curious how you came to interpret the Scriptures to mean Jesus rose on Saturday. As Aethelred and JBF have pointed out, the Bible tells us He rose on the 1st day of the week (Sunday). We also learn that this was the third day after being crucified (Friday) and the Pharisees had wanted Jesus crucified quickly, before the Sabbath came on. So He was crucified on Friday (the 1st day), then He rested on the Sabbath (the 2nd day) and rose on Sunday (the third day).
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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Friend Original500© Member Peaceful In The Morning
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I always believed it was Sunday when Jesus rose from his tomb, but I have been bothered for a long time about Sunday Sabbath because it just didn't fit with God's Word. I know that we were celebrating Sunday as the day Jesus rose from his grave, I mean tomb because he was never in a grave. I went back into the scriptures because I had to know for certain and to my surprise I realized it could not have been Friday to Sunday because it would never add up to three full days. We have to base this on God's calander not our modern calendar and we also have to take into consideration the culture at the time. Below I have posted some information, please read through with an open mind and heart and see if what I have come across does not make sense. I know we all want and need the truth and I believe with all my heart this is so. A thorough study of the Bible reveals that Yeshua was in the grave three days and three nights, and it tells us that He died on Passover which was during the High Holy Days (14 Nisan [see Leviticus 23:5]). This article will show that He was in the grave just before sunset on Wednesday night, according to Scripture (John 19:31); all day Thursday and Thursday night; all day Friday and Friday night, and all day Saturday (as Jonah was in the whale three days and three nights) until just before sunset on Saturday when He was resurrected. To begin with, in order to discern exactly when our Savior rose, it is important recognize a few things - beginning with the fact that the dawning of a new day according to God and the Hebrew calendar is at twilight as it is getting dark; not first light in the morning: Genesis 1: 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day. We also need to note the time that Yeshua was placed into the grave, which was at sunset - or approximately 5 p.m. (March-April timeframe). No matter what the days are called on our modern calendars, there is no way that 72 hours beginning sometime in the evening can end early on the morning three days later - which is what most Christian scholars are trying to insist. The Bible tells us that Yeshua died at 3 p.m. (the ninth hour - John 19:14); that He was buried later that day (John 19:31); and that He was in the grave "three days and three nights" (72 hours). But, was Christ resurrected on a Sunday? We know that Christ was crucified on the day before a Sabbath, the "preparation" day (e.g. Mark 15:42). Many have assumed that meant Friday, and commonly refer to it as "Good Friday." But the Bible record doesn't say that He was crucified on the day before the regular weekly Sabbath. He was crucified before the annual Sabbath, the Passover (i.e. John 19:14). That preparation day was not a Friday. "Good Friday" never happened. Further, Christ said that the only proof that He was the Messiah was that He would be in the tomb for 3 days and 3 nights (Matthew 12:39-40), which is 72 hours. Friday afternoon to Sunday morning is barely 36 hours, only 2 nights and 1 day. Friday to Sunday doesn't work. If someone deliberately shortchanged you like that at the supermarket, you could have them arrested. The chart below illustrates the difference (Note: Biblical days begin and end at sunset).  http://www.keyway.ca/htm2000/20000704.htm http://therefinersfire.org/resurrection1.htm
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1jester Pioneer100© Member Pilgrim Sojourner
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Friend wrote: I always believed it was Sunday when Jesus rose from his tomb, but I have been bothered for a long time about Sunday Sabbath because it just didn't fit with God's Word. I know that we were celebrating Sunday as the day Jesus rose from his grave, I mean tomb because he was never in a grave. I went back into the scriptures because I had to know for certain and to my surprise I realized it could not have been Friday to Sunday because it would never add up to three full days. We have to base this on God's calander not our modern calendar and we also have to take into consideration the culture at the time. Below I have posted some information, please read through with an open mind and heart and see if what I have come across does not make sense. I know we all want and need the truth and I believe with all my heart this is so.My dear Friend, Thank you so much for your response and your desire for truth. I certainly agree that truth is what every Christian is searching for. From what I understand, the method of counting used by the people of that time was to count the number of days involved, regardless of whether or not it was a full day. So, according to this principle, the 3 days written of would be Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I don't feel it is consistent with practice at that time to understand "3 days and 3 nights" as equal to "72 hours". I'd like to find some verifiable evidence otherwise, but until then I understand the Scriptures to mean a time period touching 3 days, not 72 hours. It is true that a day begins with sunset, so one full day consists of the night, then the day. Another thing I led to believe is that in the year that Jesus was crucified, the Passover sabbath coincided with the weekly Sabbath, which is interesting that God chose this exact time and year to represent before the nations that Jesus was the true Sacrificial Lamb.
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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You are here: Jesus Christ >> Learn More about the Jesus' Resurrection! >> Jesus' Resurrection Day Was Jesus' resurrection day a Sunday? The story of Jesus' resurrection is well-known by Christians and by many others. It is commonly believed He died on a Friday (now celebrated as Good Friday) and that He was resurrected the following Sunday (now celebrated as Easter Sunday). However, there is controversy over whether this timetable fulfills the scriptural prophecy found in Matthew 12:40, when Jesus said: "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." By our modern method of counting days, Jesus would have been in His tomb from late Friday afternoon until early Sunday morning. Even counting Friday and Sunday as full days, that would mean He was interred for three days and two nights at most. This is important because in Matthew 12 Jesus specifies that His resurrection in three days and three nights will be the only sign that He is the Messiah. Many biblical scholars stand by the Friday and Sunday dates, saying that it was common among Jews at that time to consider any part of a day to be the entire day and night. But others say there may be confusion over whether the "Sabbath" referred to in Scripture as the day after Jesus crucifixion means Saturday or whether it could have been an "annual" Sabbath that happened to occur that same week. This would make it possible that Jesus was crucified and buried on a Thursday, or even on a Wednesday with His resurrection coming Saturday night - as Jewish tradition considers the next day (Sunday) to begin at sunset on Saturday. It is interesting there appears to have been no dispute over the timing immediately following Jesus' death. Surely His disciples knew as well as anyone how long He had been in the tomb. There are really two alternatives, assuming Jesus is the son of God. He either fulfilled the prophecy exactly as written, remaining in the grave for three days and three nights, or He chose not to fulfill the prophecy. To see why He might have done the latter, consider how Jesus chided Pharisees for their nit-picking support of the laws and covenants of the Old Testament even in the face of outlandish miracles. His challenge to them, and to all of us, was to exercise faith in Him - not in some "proof" He offered up. How tragic it would be if the old-guard Jews of Jesus' time failed to recognize Him as the Messiah because he was only dead for two days before being resurrected! But even more tragic if He actually was dead for the full three days and nights and they failed to recognize that because they had hardened their hearts to the truth. http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/jesus-resurrection-day-faq.htm
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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I don't feel it is consistent with practice at that time to understand "3 days and 3 nights" as equal to "72 hours". I'd like to find some verifiable evidence otherwise, but until then I understand the Scriptures to mean a time period touching 3 days, not 72 hours. I have to agree with Jester on this to a point. There is no way you can get to an exact or near exact 72 hour time period, Christ is recorded as having died in the afternoon and to have rose from the dead just before or just after sunrise on the first day of the week. There is no doubt that the first day of the week was considered Sunday, so counting backwards Christ must have died on Thursday afternoon.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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Well guys? Gridlock? 
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Well guys? Gridlock? So it would seem.
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Aethelred wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:Well guys? Gridlock?  Fair enough.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Aethelred wrote:JustifiedByFaith wrote:Well guys? Gridlock? I would like to think that everyone has given up in the face of my flawless logic!    
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