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24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > The Christian's Straight and Narrow Path > GET ANSWERS: The Crucifixion & Resurrection of Christ |
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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Aethelred wrote: berinwitness wrote:What about "obedience"? Don't Christians want to DO what Jesus told them to do? I am not asking about obedience to earn salvation, I'm asking about obedience. If Jesus says "do this, don't do that" do you think we should obey Him? But since an earlier post, I forget by who, said would be no point in obeying the Son of God if He had not risen, I suppose my further questions are unimportant.
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is everything. The bible say's without that fact we all who accepted the gospel that's states that fact would still be dead in our sins. The Apostle Paul dedicated an entire chapter in 1 Corinthians 15 to the power and hope and purpose of the resurrection. It is ESSENTIAL to the Christian faith. How essential to the Christian Faith is loving one another?
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Without Jesus we fall short...
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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is everything. The bible say's without that fact we all who accepted the gospel that's states that fact would still be dead in our sins. The Apostle Paul dedicated an entire chapter in 1 Corinthians 15 to the power and hope and purpose of the resurrection. It is ESSENTIAL to the Christian faith. Are you interested in the Crucifiction & Resurrection berin? Please stay on topic.
 Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote:JustifiedByFaith wrote:The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is everything. The bible say's without that fact we all who accepted the gospel that's states that fact would still be dead in our sins. The Apostle Paul dedicated an entire chapter in 1 Corinthians 15 to the power and hope and purpose of the resurrection. It is ESSENTIAL to the Christian faith. Okay. I have no more questions.
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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:berinwitness wrote:JustifiedByFaith wrote:The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is everything. The bible say's without that fact we all who accepted the gospel that's states that fact would still be dead in our sins. The Apostle Paul dedicated an entire chapter in 1 Corinthians 15 to the power and hope and purpose of the resurrection. It is ESSENTIAL to the Christian faith. Your previous question: "How essential to the Christian Faith is loving one another?" Was intended as sarcastic. You already know what the word of God say's regarding loving one another.
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Your previous question: "How essential to the Christian Faith is loving one another?" Was intended as sarcastic. No, it was not. It was an honest question, which you have refused to answer.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member  Ye Olde Dead King
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Berin, I think the following quotes should answer your question: Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Joh 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Joh 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another. Rom 12:10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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berinwitness wrote: Aethelred wrote:berinwitness wrote:What about "obedience"? Don't Christians want to DO what Jesus told them to do? Without teh Resurrection there would be no Christian faith and Jesus would be just another dead guy like the founders of so many religions. Everything rests on the foundation of the Resurrection.
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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:Your previous question: "How essential to the Christian Faith is loving one another?" Was intended as sarcastic. Then I must assume you didn't mean such and say my conclusion was wrong based on your response.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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I wonder if we could shift this thread back to the topic of the Crucifixion & Resurrection?
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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I don't have any objection to that.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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berinwitness wrote: I don't have any objection to that. Cool, thanks Berin! So I take it you don't believe in a physical resurrection?
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Aethelred wrote: berinwitness wrote:I don't have any objection to that. Hi Aethelred,  Thanks for asking here...I've been trying real hard to stay out of the 'vs' thread.  This is just my own view...not necessarily the official Baha'i stance. the way I see it, it's possible there was a physical resurrection, the writings don't specifically negate that possibility (that I have seen), but rather that the important significance of the resurrection is the spiritual message it conveys. 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (King James Bible, John) what's more important iov, is what Jesus was trying to teach us through sacrificing Himself. I think that what He was really trying to tell all of us is that we are all in reality spiritual beings having a human experience. Not to be too attached to our physical reality and to strive to turn our focus to our spiritual reality. That when our body dies, our spirit/soul continues on. And that when we realize this through Christ's message, this is where our true salvation lies. Because we can then view this physical existance in a whole new light. When we truly turn our focus to living our lives according to Christ's teachings and truly loving one another, knowing that it's how we live our lives here, that determines the state of our true spiritual selves once we're gone from this plane of existance. So, I'm not gonna say it absolutely wasn't physical...but just say that the physical aspect is not what's important in the whole scheme of things. my 2 cents anyway.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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Aethelred wrote: I wonder if we could shift this thread back to the topic of the Crucifixion & Resurrection? Yes.
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Aethelred wrote: So I take it you don't believe in a physical resurrection? I'm not convinced. There are events in the Gospels that, to me, don't line up with that idea.
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