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DesertRat Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member 
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Amy, You should never attempt to quote Biblical scripture out of context. If one looked solely at John 10:16 and tried to interpret it out of context you can come up with many different interpretations including that which you have used. Lets look at John 10 in general and show the context of what Jesus was teaching. Joh 10:1 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who does not enter into the sheepfold by the door, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber. Joh 10:2 But he who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. Joh 10:3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. Joh 10:4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him. For they know his voice. Joh 10:5 And they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers. Joh 10:6 Jesus spoke this parable to them, but they did not understand what it was which He spoke to them. Joh 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. Joh 10:8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. Joh 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by Me, he shall be saved and shall go in and out and find pasture. Joh 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come so that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Joh 10:11 I am the Good Shepherd. The Good Shepherd lays down His life for the sheep. Joh 10:12 But he who is a hireling and not the shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and runs away. And the wolf catches them and scatters the sheep. Joh 10:13 The hireling flees, because he is a hireling and does not care for the sheep. Joh 10:14 I am the Good Shepherd, and I know those that are Mine, and I am known by those who are Mine. Joh 10:15 Even as the Father knows Me, I also know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep. Joh 10:16 And I have other sheep who are not of this fold. I must also lead those, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one flock, one Shepherd. Joh 10:17 Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life so that I might take it again. Joh 10:18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down from Myself. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it again. I have received this commandment from My Father. Joh 10:19 Then a division occurred again among the Jews because of these words. Joh 10:20 And many of them said, He has a demon and is insane. Why do you hear him? Joh 10:21 Others said, These are not words of one who has been possessed by a demon. A demon is not able to open the eyes of blind ones. Joh 10:22 And the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem, and it was winter. Joh 10:23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's Porch. Joh 10:24 Then the Jews encircled Him and said to Him, How long do you make us doubt? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly. Joh 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you and you did not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me. Joh 10:26 But you did not believe because you are not of My sheep. As I said to you, Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. Joh 10:28 And I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand. Joh 10:29 My Father who gave them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand. Joh 10:30 I and the Father are one! Now let's dissect John 10:16 in context of what Jesus was teaching Other sheep - There are others who shall be members of my (Jesus') redeemed church. I have - This does not imply that they were then his friends, but that they would be. There were others whom it was his purpose and intention to call to the blessings of the gospel and salvation. The purpose was so sure, and the fact that they would believe on him so certain, that he could use the present tense as if they were already his own. This purpose was in accordance with the promise Isa_53:11, "He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied." An instance of a parallel expression occurs in Act_18:10, "I have much people in this city" (Corinth). That is, it was the purpose of God to bless the preaching of Paul, and give him many souls as the seals of his ministry. It was so certain that they would believe in the Saviour, that it could be spoken of as if it were already done. This certainty could have existed only in consequence of the intention of God that it should be so. It did not consist in any disposition to embrace the gospel which was foreseen, for they were the most corrupt and licentious people of antiquity, and it must have been because God meant that it should be so. Declarations like these are full proof that God has a plan in regard to the salvation of men, and that the number is known and determined by him. 1. that it is not a question of chance or uncertainty whether men shall be saved. 2. that there is encouragement for preaching the gospel. There are those whom God means to save, and if he intends to do it it will be done. Not of this fold - Not Jews. This is a distinct intimation that the gospel was to be preached to the Gentiles, a doctrine extremely offensive to the Jews. This prediction of the Saviour has been strikingly confirmed in the conversion of millions of the Gentiles to the gospel. Them also I must bring - Bring into the church and kingdom of heaven. This was to be done, not by his personal ministry, but by the labor of his apostles and other ministers. One fold - One church; there shall be no distinction, no special national privileges. Keep in mind that He was speaking directly to the Jews and telling them that the partition between the Jews and the Gentiles shall be broken down, and there shall be no pre-eminence of rank or honor, Eph_2:14; "Christ hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;" Rom_10:12; "There is no difference between the Jew and the Greek." One shepherd - That is, the Lord Jesus - the common Saviour, deliverer, and friend of all true believers, in whatever land they were born and whatever tongue they may speak. This shows that Christians of all denominations and countries should feel that they are one redeemed by the same blood, and going to the same eternal home. Compare 1Co_12:13; Gal_3:28; Col_3:11; Act_17:26. Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but by Me.
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As Christians we are His hands and His feet. It’s our job to expose the pretenders even if our fellow Christians take it wrong. I was once knee deep in deception regarding this war that Bush orchestrated. I'm very thankful for the people that God used to open my eyes. At first it made me angry but when I stopped being defensive and actually looked into what I was hearing I came to realize that they where right. Bush is not the Christian he clams to be he is a wicked pretender who is leading our country down a slippery sloop into the NWO. I think the folks that are deceived the most are those who constantly defend but fail to dig and either refute or take what they learn and adjust they opines. I guess its human nature to go along with the masses. Very few people think for themselves. I guess that’s why we are compared to sheep in the bible.
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