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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Enduring to the end...
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#1. The bible tells us that in the end times, many believers will be deceived and depart from the faith. This is the Apostasy or Falling Away as told by the Apostle Paul. Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons... 1 Timothy 4:1 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. Matthew 24:11 #2. The bible tells us that this deception will be so great that many either think that they are Christians or will be fooled by this deception. For false Christs and false prophets will rise and show signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. Mark 13:22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:22-23 #3. One of the devils most subtle and powerful deceptions is to make a mock copy of what is good. But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 2 Corinthians 11:3 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 2 Corinthians 11:13 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14 THE SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST IS ALREADY AT WORK IN THE WORLD BUT REMEMBER THAT... "HE WHO IS IN YOU IS GREATER THAN HE WHO IS IN THE WORLD."
 Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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1jester Pioneer100© Member  Pilgrim Sojourner
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Thanks for the post, JBF! We are really in danger of falling away from our Savior if we indeed do not listen to His word. Our adversary is extremely intelligent, wily and deceptive, so he will do everything possible to get us away from our Lord. Let's not fall prey!! Pray and keep our hearts open so we can stand till the end.
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Enduring to the end...
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For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14 This is a powerful reminder of the subtle side of the enemy. So many messages and teachings out there talking love and peace and joy yet leaving the centrality of Christ for another jesus, they unknowingly follow Satan who is portrays a gospel like Christ yet far from Him.
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Hi Friends, This is a quote from a member of the Baha'i faith and I withheld the name so we can focus on the deception in the statement and not on the person. We must expose false doctrine when we see it and offer it up for an example that we too may fall pray to the wiles of the devil if not careful. Quote: "And I do not pay so much attention to Paul's 'op ed' pieces. The Gospels hold the words of Christ, Paul's letters do not. And that was an opinion I had come to years before I ever heard of Baha'u' llah. Paul is good guidance, but his words are not 'Gospel', merely his opinion." Strictly speaking of course, Paul says nothing I cannot agree with in this instance, and still hold true to my opinion to follow the precepts of Baha`u'llah. In my estimate if Paul lived on this earth today, he woulod have rejoiced in the message of Baha`u'llah, and been among the first to follow."
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Hi Friends, Paris Talks, by `Abdu'l-Bahá, pp. 147-148: to fight. Religious hatred is ever the most cruel! All religions teach that we should love one another; that we should seek out our own shortcomings before we presume to condemn the faults of others, that we must not consider ourselves superior to our neighbours! We must be careful not to exalt ourselves lest we be humiliated. Who are we that we should judge? How shall we know who, in the sight of God, is the most upright man? God's thoughts are not like our thoughts! How many men who have seemed saint-like to their friends have fallen into the greatest humiliation.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Enduring to the end...
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Popeysays, This is not about personal condemnation but christians in love warn one another of deceptions, false teachings and the wiles of the devil. The Bahai faith has been shown to preach another jesus, another gospel and from another spirit. Love isn't the issue here, but a dire warning to the Christian brethren that false prophets and false christs will arise and deceive many.
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Popeysays, The spirit is the same, the Gospel is never finished. That's the point to the Baha`i Revelation. I do agree that the false prophets are a danger, but Christ Himself gave us the ability to recognize both true Prophets and false prophets, and left the resppnsibility for that choice in every man and woman's hands. Regards, Scott
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The Gospel of Jesus IS finished. Jesus WAS the Supreme Revelation. Your spewing "False Doctrine" here again. Please take it to the Christianity VS Bahai Forum. "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds..." Hebrews 1:1-2
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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The first several verses from the first chapter of The Epistle to the Hebrews The Son Superior to Angels 1In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs." I haven't a quibble in the world with that. And it upholds my point nicely. Regards, Scott
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Popeysays, Dear friend, You're my bud, JBF! As I've often said before, you almost single-handedly spread the Baha'i Faith to places I am unable to go. I love you, man, for such determination; really! I'm enjoying the attention. I do find it interesting, though, about your obvious hard work(no doubt out of love) in warning other fellow Christians about ". . . deceptions, false teachings and the wiles of the devil." It does read, IMO, like you are the one who, again, is bringing what you believe to be the wiles of the devil to your fellow Christians. In the past you have warned your fellow Christians about other Christians being of the devil. Yuck! Smacks like bad fruit! Otherwise, the Baha'i Faith seems to be in the company of other Christians and those who just don't fit *your* idea of what is true. I'm waiting to hear that you have brought this Baha'i doctrine into your own church as well as your own home. What exactly is your fellow believers supposed to do once you import doctrines that you yourself abhor? Bad fruit! Even Baha'is don't spread such that they find aborrent. 2 Peter 2:1 says falseness will arise among the Christians. An evil tree can not bring forth good fruit. The choice is yours, of course. The Baha'is didn't bring this here to the Christian thread; you did. Your opinion is on other threads here on 24. the other Christians could have read your statements on the other threads. no one kicked you off those other threads. This all suggests to me that you are the one who is speading the Baha'i Faith to people and places I would not do. Just saying. Free.man
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Free.man wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:Popeysays, "It is incumbent upon all men, each according to his ability, to refute the arguments of those that have attacked the Faith of God. Thus hath it been decreed by Him Who is the All-Powerful, the Almighty. He that wisheth to promote the Cause of the one true God, let him promote it through his pen and tongue, rather than have recourse to sword or violence. We have, on a previous occasion, revealed this injunction, and We now confirm it, if ye be of them that comprehend. By the righteousness of Him Who, in this Day, crieth within the inmost heart of all created things: "God, there is none other God besides Me!" If any man were to arise to defend, in his writings, the Cause of God against its assailants, such a man, however inconsiderable his share, shall be so honored in the world to come that the Concourse on high would envy his glory. No pen can depict the loftiness of his station, neither can any tongue describe its splendour. For whosoever standeth firm and steadfast in this holy, this glorious, and exalted Revelation, such power shall be given him as to enable him to face and withstand all that is in heaven and on earth. Of this God is Himself a witness. " ("Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah", sec. 154, pp. 329-30)
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Free.man, Popeyesays You guys can quote Baha'i writtings all day long yet the Baha'i faith is not found to be compatable with the Christian faith. Whenever I see a Bahai quote from the Bahai organization or Baha'u'llah himself... It is shown to me as "False Doctrine". Therefore, the Holy Spirit does not acknowledge to us who are "born of the Spirit" as it being "inspired by God". 
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JustifiedByFaith wrote:
Begging the Question does not make an argument. Regards, Scott
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Popeyesays wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: I will not debate the Bahai religion here. This forum is for edification for Christians or honest questions from non-Christians about our faith. This thread is about False Doctrines of which Christianity has concluded the Bahai faith falls under this category. I have created the Christians VS Bahai forum for back and forth debate. Thank You
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JBF Said: "I did not start this thread to debate with false religions. I started this thread as you see in it's beginnings with warnings to the saints about false religions, false teachers and false prophets and false christs who will come in the last days to deceive many."
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