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This was an 1820 capped bust dime I found several years ago with a Garrett Groundhog MD. It was very deep, around 10" or better, and in sandy soil. A couple of things about this coin are special to me...One, is the fact that is has a square hole in it, no doubt by some person now long since dead...The second and most important, is this was a coin that a little boy saw me dig up that day in that park...he had followed me around all morning, chatting and talking about wanting to get into metal detecting...and I had dug a few merc dimes and lincoln cents, but this one popped out and I was flabbergasted, and so was he..! That little boy was Rob....now known here as Lord Marcovan...I'd like to think I was partly instrumental in the future that Rob took from that day forward..a holey coin and all...



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Millennium wrote: This was an 1820 capped bust dime I found several years ago with a Garrett Groundhog MD. It was very deep, around 10" or better, and in sandy soil. A couple of things about this coin are special to me...One, is the fact that is has a square hole in it, no doubt by some person now long since dead...The second and most important, is this was a coin that a little boy saw me dig up that day in that park...he had followed me around all morning, chatting and talking about wanting to get into metal detecting...and I had dug a few merc dimes and lincoln cents, but this one popped out and I was flabbergasted, and so was he..! That little boy was Rob....now known here as Lord Marcovan...I'd like to think I was partly instrumental in the future that Rob took from that day forward..a holey coin and all...



What a GREAT story!  Thank you for sharing that.  Do you have any ideas about the square hole?




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I remember that day well. It was 1981, and I was fifteen years old. (But was rather scrawny and underweight for my age, and looked about ten at the time). As I recall, you had your arm in that hole up to your elbow- I think it was deeper than ten inches!

It was a pretty terrific feat of pinpointing, too, if I remember correctly- though you dug way down deep, the hole wasn't much bigger around than your arm.

I also remember you digging a 1904 Indian cent and a War nickel that afternoon. Though it was more than a quarter of a century ago, that particular day sticks in my memory very clearly, because watching you detect really fired my imagination. I had already been a coin collector for several years by then.

And the same park is still producing finds, 26 years later.  Check out my pics from this February- see the fountain in the background?  In fact, the 1904 Indian cent I remember you digging on that day so long ago was not too far from the sidewalk, just about dead center in this 2007 photo- a bit past where I dug this 1947 dime in February. 

Just like last year's first silver (a 1960s silver dime), this year's first silver was also a Roosevelt, and surprisingly deep for its age.  It remains the only silver coin I've dug so far this year.  Last year I think I only got two pieces of silver, one of them being from this park.





 

More pictures of the same park, for our friends in cyberspace.  Here's the Confederate monument on the north end of the square, taken last spring before they re-landscaped a bit.





And here we are again from this spring, actually the real outing I made this year.  Note the Confederate monument again, this time from behind.  The brick sidewalks have all been taken up and replaced- note the beige-colored sand they used to lay the bricks on.  When they took up the century-old brick sidewalks, I thought it was going to be a real bonanza.  Alas, to my surprise and disappointment, I didn't get much besides a few pieces of tiny lead shot, a cogwheel from an old watch, a piece of clay pipestem, and a percussion cap from a Civil War-era gun.  No coins.  I understand you found one of your two cent pieces under or near one of the brick sidewalks, once?

As a matter of fact, if you look at the new sidewalk in the picture below, and see the sand around it- well, I hunted that exact stretch of sidewalk when the bricks were up and I got... nothing.  Zip.  Nada.  Oh well.



HOWEVER, I did discover this March that you still haven't completely cleaned the place out.  Here's a 1913 Type 2 Buffalo nickel coming out!
 



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FGP- the square hole in his 1820 dime is almost certainly the result of an early "square" nail. I often find coins of the 1700s and early 1800s with such holes. (When I say I "often find" them, I mean as a coin dealer, not as a detectorist- I WISH I could say I often find coins of the 1700s and early 1800s! I have found a few, but not many. Certainly not as many as this guy- he's a detecting demigod!)

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Wow, fantastic story ... considering that ocnnection it is so cool that he (Millennium) is here in your forum, LM!




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Lord Marcovan wrote: FGP- the square hole in his 1820 dime is almost certainly the result of an early "square" nail. I often find coins of the 1700s and early 1800s with such holes. (When I say I "often find" them, I mean as a coin dealer, not as a detectorist- I WISH I could say I often find coins of the 1700s and early 1800s! I have found a few, but not many. Certainly not as many as this guy- he's a detecting demigod!)
A square nail?  Gosh that's neat. No wounder you enjoy this stuff.  What do you think the Indian head nickle might be worth today?




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He was my first detecting mentor, in a way. Not in an active sense, but watching him inspired me to buy my first "real" detector the following year, in 1982. (Prior to that I did have a detector but it was a cheap $20 plastic job that had a flashing light on top- it didn't even beep.)

We crossed paths accidentally on the Collectors Universe forums years later. Neither of us would've ever figured out who the other was, but when he and I found we were from the same town and swapped stories, I mentioned the how I had seen a guy find an 1820 dime in that park, and he said, "hey, that was me!"

Small world, sometimes.

In my adult life, Steve and I have gone detecting together maybe three or four times. Two of those times he managed to snatch a large cent from beneath my very nose.

And then there was the time he invited me to join him on one of the promising sites he had permission to hunt. I was tired and cancelled the diggin' date, and he went.

I very much regretted not going when I saw a picture of what he had found.

I'll let Steve tell the story of "The One That Got Away" (from me). It didn't get away from him!

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I can tell already I am going to be addicted to this forum. It's the coin collector in me and the wannabe treasure hunter ...




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A square nail?  Gosh that's neat. No wounder you enjoy this stuff.  What do you think the Indian head nickle might be worth today?





A 1913 Type 2 Buffalo nickel is probably worth twelve or thirteen bucks in that grade.  Mine, being dug, is probably only worth nine or ten as-is, at most.  But that was a fifty-dollar thrill for me, diggin' it up.  Too bad it didn't have a D or S mintmark below the Buffalo.  Those were better dates.  The 1913-S Type 2 is a key date for the Buffalo nickel series.

A lot of stuff like this has a "coolness factor" well beyond its monetary value, for sure.

Take Steve's 1820 dime, with its square hole and old toolmarks on it.  As-is, it probably isn't worth a whole lot more than my Buffalo nickel from the same park.  But, oh, the story it could tell... ! 

It's fun to think about stuff like that.  That's what fires me up the most about this hobby, really.  The sheer variety and mystery of the stuff that comes up from the dirt never ceases to amaze.

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Either of you ever find an old coin inside something, so that it revealed a coin that was uncirculated or AU?




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Here, to save Steve the trouble of reposting the story of "The One That Got Away" (from yours truly), I will link to the original post about it over on the "other" forum.

His title was, "LM... you're gonna be sick..."

When you see what he dug that day, I think you'll see why I was indeed very sick after refusing the chance to go with him...

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=522298

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Wow!!! What a half cent! He sucks, they were right!




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What's worse is, that ain't his only half cent.  He dug one out of the very same park we've been discussing here.  And it was a rare date, too.

Finding ANY half cent is rare indeed.  And he's managed to find TWO, both of them rare dates.

I wouldn't have believed this guy's finds were for real, if I hadn't seen him in action myself.

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"Either of you ever find an old coin inside something, so that it revealed a coin that was uncirculated or AU?"


I have found coin pouches that had coins still in them...the coins were not in that great shape, usually the leather has rotted all around the coins and messed them up....but I did find three coins that were "sandwiched" together...the middle coin was a quarter that was between half dollars...The half dollars were in great shape but the quarter, well I'll let you judge it....It's a scarce date too, too bad it wasn't the "S" mintmark!



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Millennium wrote: "Either of you ever find an old coin inside something, so that it revealed a coin that was uncirculated or AU?"


I have found coin pouches that had coins still in them...the coins were not in that great shape, usually the leather has rotted all around the coins and messed them up....but I did find three coins that were "sandwiched" together...the middle coin was a quarter that was between half dollars...The half dollars were in great shape but the quarter, well I'll let you judge it....It's a scarce date too, too bad it wasn't the "S" mintmark!


WOW     that is in amazingly great shape!::appl::


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