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24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > Aethelred's History Chamber > Micro vs. macro views of history |
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shirohniichan Original500© Member  Obscurius per obscurum
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sumnom wrote: Third, are you suggesting that Western historians have no interest beyond recording points of fact and do not engage in analysis and speculation while Eastern historians are not interested in emprical knowledge and prefer to remain in the realm of the cultural? If one includes Japanese historians in the Eastern camp, I find this analysis to be inaccurate. Old Japanese histories included a lot of broad narratives and cultural claims, but more recent historical works I've read included detailed analyses. For example, a popular history I bought regarding Oda Nobunaga investigated his battle victories' connection with his use of musket brigades and the length of the spears used by his infantry compared with the Takeda reliance on older cavarly charges. Another I read on the Mohri conquest of western Japan gave a detailed analysis of Motonari's naval allies, fortress construction, misinformation campaign, and many other micro matters.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member  Ye Olde Dead King
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sumnom wrote: I'll read the bio of William The Conqueror first, then read the book about the Norman Conquest of England. Not from my point of view. I would want to first see the whole life of William, followed by an account of the most important event in his life, his conquest of England. I guess what is specific and what is general would need to be defined by what your study is of and what goals you have for that study.
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shirohniichan Original500© Member Obscurius per obscurum
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Aethelred wrote: sumnom wrote:I'll read the bio of William The Conqueror first, then read the book about the Norman Conquest of England. If you're interested in getting the big picture of Guillaume le Batard, reading his biography would be the best place to start. On the other hand, if you want to get an overview of the Norman Conquest reading about Willy would be picking one tree over the forest.
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sumnom Original500© Member 
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Well said, well said, Aethelred. History is defined by the frames we make.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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If you are interested in the history of bagpipes, the Assyrian Empire will mean very little to you, it is all about what matters to the person doing the reading.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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I'll have to find some examples of what I mean about Eastern and Western historians... It's not a hard and fast or black and white thing--- but just that certainly in the education from 8th grade through undergraduate studies, one typically spends a LOT more time on 'who when and where' than on 'how and why' in traditional Western education. One of the areas I first encountered this was in Israel -- where I lived with people from 90 different countries, most of whom had college degrees from the country they were from or a neighboring country--- It was interesting to find out how much more the Koreans and other Asians knew about WHY the Japanese invaded in WWII -- and how matters came to that in their culture.. I learned a tremendous amount (most of which I've since forgotten '-( from those Asian and Middle Eastern kids -- and their grade school educations on world events. I got a look at an African history textbook --- written by a group of Africans in Kenya -- never have I seen so much about why and how, as opposed to the US/European texts I knew of which were so more about who/when/where/who won/who lost sort of things. Heck -- I remember learning more about the cultural clashes and differences during the Indian uprising of 1857 by reading (of all things) M.M. Kay's "the Far Pavilions", than I did even in my undergraduate Humanities studies...... from which I had books covering the details of what the British endured during the mutiny by the "savages" --- but very little of why those cultures felt so maligned, and whether that was actually true or not.
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