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I just bought the book "Are We Rome?"

I have not read the book yet, but thought the idea that the US is going down the same path that Rome did is an interesting one to consider.

In both cases:

1. A king was overthrown and a republic set up.

2. The republic bacame more and more interested in domination of other nations.

3. Power shifted from the people to the government.

4. A "ruling class" gained power.

What are your thoughts?


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just in general, i would think that since there are only so many scenarios for civilizations, history MUST repeat. i also take into consideration the nature of 'man', which does not change.

but don't ask me to write  a treatise! :D





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Aethelred wrote: I just bought the book "Are We Rome?"

I have not read the book yet, but thought the idea that the US is going down the same path that Rome did is an interesting one to consider.

In both cases:

1. A king was overthrown and a republic set up.

2. The republic bacame more and more interested in domination of other nations.

3. Power shifted from the people to the government.

4. A "ruling class" gained power.

What are your thoughts?

Generally, history does repeat.  History at its root, is based on human behavior, and as LC suggests, that doesn't really change.

I think it would be a mistake to compare the US to Rome, though.  Everything you noted above could equally apply to France, or Germany, or Great Britain.  For one thing, the bigger population you have, the more need there is to centralize power, so government inevitably becomes more powerful as a society evolves.

I would also point out that in Rome, power never rested with "the people" as we think of it today.  Most people in Rome were plebians or slaves, not patricians.  If anything Rome resembled more the early U.S. experience with democracy, where only wealthy gentry voted.







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Aethelred wrote: I just bought the book "Are We Rome?"

I have not read the book yet, but thought the idea that the US is going down the same path that Rome did is an interesting one to consider.

In both cases:

1. A king was overthrown and a republic set up.

2. The republic bacame more and more interested in domination of other nations.

3. Power shifted from the people to the government.

4. A "ruling class" gained power.

What are your thoughts?

Short and simple? Sounds about right to me. But I think the country would have to be divided up first.


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