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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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I know how to lose weight by not eating! That's basically how I diet when I need to. I know it's so unhealthy, but it sure works. I'm trying to lose a little weight, but I'm far more interested in firming up my body!! What should I be eating to help this process, and to MAINTAIN the muscle once I've reached my goal? I do know, once you've got the muscle, if you don't do something to maintain that, it then turns to fat......or so I've been told! What about some of you other members? Are any of you working on firming or toning your bodies? Maybe you've already accomplished this?
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  Lovin' the Life
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Hey Fox! What parts of the body are you working on? Something specific or just generally toning up? Bullet is a work-out maniac and I have learned a lot about what to do for specific areas of the body. In general, LOTS of water. Drink water all the time, because what you think is hunger can actually be thirst. Protein. Lots of protein, fewer starches and sugar. Common sense stuff. like snacking on veggies and fruit instead of potato chips or cookies. You want exercises or diet tips or both? Last edited on 06-16-2008 03:11 pm by UsedToRide Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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UsedToRide wrote: Hey Fox! What parts of the body are you working on? Something specific or just generally toning up? Bullet is a work-out maniac and I have learned a lot about what to do for specific areas of the body. Well I just joined a fitness club, so I think I'll work on the machines however, I'm hearing Mr. Paseo talk about a different diet for toning. I'm not sure what to eat to keep the muscle tone..........that is IF I get it! <heh> Parts I'm working on? Tighten the stomach! Firm the arms! Tone and firm the legs and butt more! Other than that, everything is fine.............which pretty much just leaves my hair! 
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I'd actually be really interested in tips, too. I'm in a little bit of a unique situation, since the usual jogging/treadmill thing is not gonna happen, in my case. 
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Well, you don't need the cost of a gym membership to accomplish what you want. Pretty much anything you need to do, you can do at home. If Bullet can work out like a maniac where he is, you should have no trouble doing exercises at home. Incline push-ups. Instead of being flat on the ground and doing push-ups, put your hands on the edge of your couch, a footstool, a heavy box that brings your chest up and away from the floor. This works your upper body, especially your biceps and triceps. Ignore elevators and escalators. Use the stairs instead. If you're going to be working your bod, you need stamina, and stairs as opposed to mechanical devices increases your wind. Crunches. They are a royal bitch, but they work the stomach. Lie flat on your back, and put your hands behind your head. Bring your head up, and your legs, and get as close to touching your knees to your chin as you can. When you lower your legs to do it again, stretch your legs all the way out and don't allow your feet to touch the floor. Curls. Bullet loads up his full water bottles in his laundry bag and does curls. About 600 a day. You need to start smaller and increase your reps as you go. Get anything heavy - canned food, water bottles, a bag of sugar, whatever - put it in a bag and bring it up bending your elbow to bring your hand with the bag as close to your face as you can. Leg lifts. Flat on your back, raise your legs straight up as far as you can, lower them back down but don't let your feet touch the floor, then bring your legs up again, only this time, bend your knees to bring your knees towards your chin. Repeat. The key is never letting your feet touch the floor. Regular push-ups. Bullet does 800 a day now. Obviously you can't start out doing that many, but start small and as you see things becoming easier, increase the number of moves and the reps. As for food, one of my favorite meals is that pre-made salad, cooked chicken breast, mushrooms and Wish-Bone Western dressing. Eat slowly. It takes 20 minutes for your brain to register that your stomach is full. So you may feel hungry still, but your brain hasn't registered that it has enough food. Not eating is not a good way to lose weight. What happens is, your body has no fuel in its system, so it begins to take what it needs to function from your muscles. You are defeating the purpose of what you want to accomplish when you starve yourself. 5 small meals a day is better than starving yourself.
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MrPaseo Original500© Member  Peace Protector
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Food intake is very important when it comes to maintaining your weight, tonight, gaining or losing weight. The basic food intake schedule is the same, what you take in is different. Here is what I do: MEAL 1: 0600 Muscle milk with water: This first meal is right after I work out. I go to the gym at 0430 every morning which pulls me out of the fasting mode (If I was in a fasting mode, more on that with the last meal). Muscle milk is a great source of nutrients following your work out session. MEAL 2: 0800 Oatmeal, raisins, hard boiled egg whites, V8, Skim Milk: Oatmeal for the cholesterol and starchy carbs, egg whites for protein, V8 is a veggie, and skim milk for calcium. MEAL 3: 1030 Promax bar (Or other source of protein) All my meals are based around a protein source. This is the key. MEAL 4: 1200 Tuna, white rice, (relish and lemons on the tuna) V8, Skim Milk: Protein, white rice for carbs MEAL 5: 1430-1500 100% Whey Protein (With water): This is only Protein MEAL 6: 1700 A meat and usually peanut butter and Honey (Honey is low glycemic), Skim milk, V8: Honey does not reek havoc on your insulin, I have known a few diabetics that can not eat sugar, and they enjoy honey every now and then. MEAL 7: 1900 Protein drink: Your choice, the further in the day you go, the higher your protein count should be. MEAL 8: 2100 Protein drink 100% Casein: Casein is egg protein that sits in your stomach for a few hours so your body has food throughout the night, this keeps you from entering the starvation mode five hours after you fall asleep. Most people need 6-8 hours of sleep, many people on "Diets" stop eating after a certain hour because they think all their food will turn into fat. This is not entirely true. A solid source of protein, especially casein protein will aid in weight loss, and will STOP your body from cannibalizing the valuable muscle you worked so hard for. The hardest thing about this schedule is eating so much. Every time you turn around, you feel like.... I JUST ATE!. The trick is, you need to convince your body that more food is on the way, as soon as your body is convinced, it will slow down it's storage of fat. Add to it your work out sessions and you will start to burn the fat because your body will think there is a constant source of food and will not need to store fat. BTW I spend about 200 per month on supplements alone, you will not need to do this, though it will give you quicker results and will assist you in keeping on track because the Promax bars are portable and the protein drinks go down very easy and are exactly what your body needs. Last edited on 06-16-2008 04:26 pm by MrPaseo |
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MrPaseo Original500© Member Peace Protector
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UTR has a lot of great advice there, especially when she mentions not eating as a way to lose weight. Remember, your body will hold onto the fat, and burn the muscle, in turn, when you come out of the fast mode, your body will be in shock and will store most of your food as fat when you start eating again. In the end, when you went on your diet, you lost water and muscle weight, as you came out, you added fat weight. Then, you will realize you gained more weight, so you will end up on the same diet, you will lose even more muscle, and add even more fat. Starvation is the worst kind of diet out there. Never go below 1300 calories in a day. That is a full 500 calories below what just about anyone should be eating.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member Lovin' the Life
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Brian wrote: I'd actually be really interested in tips, too. I'm in a little bit of a unique situation, since the usual jogging/treadmill thing is not gonna happen, in my case. Brian, what are your specific limitations? If I recall correctly, you're in a wheelchair; is that right? Tell me what you can do, and I'll have some thoughts for you on how to work what you want to and can work out.
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Thank you guys for some really good ideas, and advise!! UTR, my health insurance will pay for the gym, so I don't worry about that part. As far as the not eating, that's stress and nerves at times! I don't eat lots of times because of this, and noticed it sure works to lose a few lbs, fast if you need to!! Ray, do you have to take into consideration your weight and age as far as the calorie in take gos? I would think what you might need, I would not....... UTR, those exercises are hard!! Laying flat on the floor and lifting my legs and head at the same time is a killer! I know there's forms of each of those exercises you mentioned, that someone out of shape or older can do by toning them down a little. I also know they really work! Since my gym is free, it's seems for some reason easier to work out on a machine for now. Not to change the subject, but Bullet must be one hell of a hunk! And you too Ray!  Last edited on 06-16-2008 05:16 pm by foxglovepress Justice for Mark.....Imprison Employers Who Hire ILLEGALS! |
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UsedToRide wrote: Brian wrote:I'd actually be really interested in tips, too. I'm in a little bit of a unique situation, since the usual jogging/treadmill thing is not gonna happen, in my case. Hi, UTR. Yep, I'm in a wheelchair. Basically, anything involving the use of one's legs is a non-starter for me. I can kind of do push-ups, but not the good kind (since I can't keep my legs straight). I can do crunches, as long as lifting your torso off the ground isn't required. (My hip muscles don't really allow for that.) I can do all the normal arm exercise stuff (dumbells, bench press, etc). I can lift my legs off the floor while on my back, but I can't keep them straight while doing it. (My upper leg muscles are good enough to lift a little off the floor). Basically, if you think of your legs as nothing more than a few extra pounds of ballast, you'll understand what I can do.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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MrPaseo wrote: Food intake is very important when it comes to maintaining your weight, tonight, gaining or losing weight. The basic food intake schedule is the same, what you take in is different. Here is what I do: This is a big help! I don't know that I would follow it to the letter, but I like the idea of drinking the protein drink, and the bars when I'm out and about or busy working and can't take time to really eat. I do eat a lot of green salads with all the fresh veggies, and I do really love fresh fruit!! I'm not a heavy meat eater, so the extra protein, I really need. This all gives me a good starting point. I need to re think the body storing the fat because it thinks it needs more food! I can see where eating often would help with this. As long as you eat the right foods of course. I'm one that could do this because I prefer little bits through out day, as oppose to just 3 big meals a day.
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Brian wrote: Yep, I'm in a wheelchair. Basically, anything involving the use of one's legs is a non-starter for me. I can kind of do push-ups, but not the good kind (since I can't keep my legs straight). I can do crunches, as long as lifting your torso off the ground isn't required. (My hip muscles don't really allow for that.) I can do all the normal arm exercise stuff (dumbells, bench press, etc). I can lift my legs off the floor while on my back, but I can't keep them straight while doing it. (My upper leg muscles are good enough to lift a little off the floor). Ok then. What do you want to work? Do you just want to eat healthier, exercise your upper body, both? Do you have any equipment such as the dumbbells etc.? I'm thinking stomach, arms and back for you, yes?
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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UsedToRide wrote: Brian wrote:Yep, I'm in a wheelchair. Basically, anything involving the use of one's legs is a non-starter for me. I can kind of do push-ups, but not the good kind (since I can't keep my legs straight). I can do crunches, as long as lifting your torso off the ground isn't required. (My hip muscles don't really allow for that.) I can do all the normal arm exercise stuff (dumbells, bench press, etc). I can lift my legs off the floor while on my back, but I can't keep them straight while doing it. (My upper leg muscles are good enough to lift a little off the floor). Hi, UTR. Thanks for the advice. Nutrition-wise, the hardest thing is that I don't cook. (I've got a girlfriend now, so I eat okay on some days, but she doesn't live here.  ) I end up eating things like TV dinners, hot dogs, and takeout pizza. (There are probably raccoons that eat better than I do, sometimes.  ) I do buy myself salads from QuickChek, on occasion. And I have lunch meats or PBJ for lunch.I've got two sets of dumbells. I've got a set of 8lb dumbells and I've got a more serious 20lb set. I do things like curls, presses from the floor, and lifting the weights over my head. They make my arms plenty strong, but they don't do a damn thing about my gut. Stomach and arms sound like a good plan. I'm not 100% sure about back, since I've got scoliosis and dislocated hips.
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Ok, having some equipment is a good start. Working your tummy will be more difficult considering your situation, but I have some ideas for that too, and I will also ask Bullet when I talk to him tonight. He always has ideas and has come up with some pretty inventive ways to work out where he is! You're probably right about not working your back. Let's not make an already tough situation worse!!!  I'm thinking pull-ups, first. I'll have to ponder how to jury-rig some sort of gizmo to allow you to do pull-ups. If you have the power to lift your whole body weight, this is good. But we have to make sure it is something completely reliable that won't fall off the wall or whatever it is hooked to. I'm picturing a football goal post on a smaller scale. Lifting your legs with your hands can work your gut. If you can reach your feet, bend down, grab from the bottom, and pull back using your stomach muscles to make the movement. If you can't get to your feet, get from behind your knees. Doing both legs at the same time will be more effective. Conciously make the muscles in your stomach do this work. Take the smaller weight dumbbells, hold from the weighted end, not the center, allowing the other end to point to the floor. Raise it over your head, then lower it behind your back as low as you can. Lifting it back up over your head will work your tummy. BIG changes in your diet need to happen if you want to shrink your belly. Are you able to cook some boneless skinless chicken in a pan on the stove? If so, you can chow on the salad that I mentioned above. I could live on that stuff. Toss in some croutons and it's even better. Are you on any medication that might interfere with some physical things? Last edited on 06-16-2008 05:50 pm by UsedToRide Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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