|
||||||
 |
Recent Posts | Search by username | |
Contact Us | |
Login | |
Register |
 |
 |
|||||
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
 |
|
24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > 24's Political Matters > America deserved to be attacked on 9-11 |
| Moderated by: 24HourNut | Page:   1 2 3 4 5   |
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Author | Post | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
|
Aethelred Pioneer100© Member  Ye Olde Dead King
|
  |
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
I think this quote from Rev. Wright stands out: "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians" I really think Obama needs to comment on this. Does Obama view Israel pretecting itself against constant bombings and rocket attacks as "state terrorism against the Palestinians?" Based on comments that Obama has made in the past I suspect he does. "Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people," Barack Obama 2007 Sadly the Palestinian people have brought that suffering on themselves but supporting terrorism, by electing Hamas members as their leaders. If the Palestinian people took a strong stance against terror and stopped harboring those who commit acts of terror, their suffering would end at once. Israel has every right to protect itself and it's people and should have the full support of the United States!
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Why pick on Obama? Hillary and McCain haven't got anyone whacking on them for not showing their positions. Hillary hasn't said word ONE about her healthcare plan other than "it's for everyone" time and time again. McCain says we'll be in Iraq for 100 years--- but very little about why that will be. Is the problem the candidates or the way the media chooses to soundbite-interview and question them? two minute answers on debates are too short-- and allowing the candidate to slide sideways on the question and the moderator 'pretends' that the question was answered... instead of saying "Sen Candidate, you didn't actually clearly and directly ANSWER the question = you presented a bunch of platform rhetoric and comments about the other guy, but you didn't SAY where the money would come from as you were asked" (for example) I hate the way the mods in the debates allow the 2 minutes given for an "answer" to be taken OT by the candidate with rosy phrases that end up saying nothing substantial. I don't think the problem is Obama -- I think it's the standard to which REAL answers are not asked for. None of the three would do well in the harsh environment of say, an oral examination in college finals like I had. I can clearly remember answering a question and having my answer totally dissected and shown how it didn't really SAY anything substantial, and being asked to try answering again.
 Turn thou unto God and say: O my Sovereign Lord! I am but a vassal of Thine, and Thou art, in truth, the King of kings. I have lifted my suppliant hands unto the heaven of Thy grace and Thy bounties. |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
I don't see this as picking on Obama. Obama has chosen to attent a church where the pastor is an anti-American racist. Hillary and McCain offer more of the same, I don't think things would be much different under either of them. However, Obama offers "change" and I think it is fair to ask what kind of change he is talking about. Also, both Hillary and McCain have already had tons of media attention given to their shortcomings while Obama has had a free pass, we better find out who he is before we sit him down at a desk and give him the nuclear codes.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Brian Grand Poobah of Moderation 
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
muddawber wrote: Go back and check. The United States involvement was before Kennedy. Yes, but Kennedy ramped it up considerably, from 800 US troops to 16,000. Kennedy deserves credit for the moon landing speech. And of course, he was a good orator. But I think a lot of his presidency is overrated. Of course, that has nothing to do with his philandering. It's certainly possible to compartmentalize your life to the degree that one area does not affect the other.
"It's been a long December, and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last." -- "A Long December", Counting Crows |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
muddawber Guardian1000© Member 
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Brian wrote: muddawber wrote:Go back and check. The United States involvement was before Kennedy. True, Kennedy did up the forces, and was in the process of having the Pentagon re-evaluate their assesment of the war when he was assisnated. But, look what happened when Johnson got in. Neither of them did much. To me the only thing good that came out of either presidency was the civil rights issue.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Brian Grand Poobah of Moderation
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
muddawber wrote: Brian wrote:muddawber wrote:Go back and check. The United States involvement was before Kennedy. Honestly, I'm not clear on how the civil rights battle really played out. It's my understanding that that was really Johnson's baby, rather than Kennedy's. Johnson did most of the work and arm-twisting on it. My recollection (from documentaries, because I wasn't born to see it first-hand) was that Kennedy viewed King with suspicion and as a target to be spied on. I don't know that he and Robert were unsympathetic to the cause, but the champion was Johnson (a Southern senator, no less...).
"It's been a long December, and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last." -- "A Long December", Counting Crows |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Amy Original500© Member  ...going with the flow...
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Obama needs to come out against this stuff... otherwise he's gonna be lumped in with the conspiracy crowd.  The pastor also said: “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.” or perhaps it really will be an Obamanation. 
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
aknow Original500© Member
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Aethelred wrote: I don't see this as picking on Obama. Obama has chosen to attent a church where the pastor is an anti-American racist. Aethelred: Wait! We gave the codes to a drug addicted, dysfunctional megalomaniac who has devastated our once great country... Additionally, he and Condomleeza Rice have forced Israel to sit on their collective hands while their citizens dodge guided bombs daily. Could anyone ever be worse for the world and our nation than Pres. Bush? I seriously doubt it. Dr. Steve
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
aknow Original500© Member
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
muddawber wrote: Brian wrote:muddawber wrote:Go back and check. The United States involvement was before Kennedy. One of the very best things that came out of Kennedy's brief time as President was the implementation of physical fitness programs for school aged children. In addition to adding a measure of fun, ethics, and intelligence to the Oval Office, Kennedy got baby boomers to be very aware of their fitness levels. The current president will be remembered for getting drunk and falling off a couch onto his face, and injuring himself. Which is an accurate metaphor for his entire presidency.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye, I don't think I've ever heard a more irresponsible or ill-informed statement than that. Is it the sense of indignation because of Jeremiah Wrights words which actually do make a kind of sense. Except for that one. To imply that 2000 innocent men, women, and children deserved a violent, horrible death is unconscionable. For any reason.
A^2 + B^2 = C^2 |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Obama needs to come out against this stuff...otherwise he's gonna be lumped in with the conspiracy crowd. I agree, Amy. He should divorce himself immediately and disavow any agreement with these heinous views. If he does otherwise, God Help Me, I'll vote Republican.
A^2 + B^2 = C^2 |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The current president will be remembered for getting drunk and falling off a couch onto his face, and injuring himself. Which is an accurate metaphor for his entire presidency. ROFLMAO!!!
A^2 + B^2 = C^2 |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This stuff about Rev. Wright has been out there for a year, but for some reason is only being covered by the media now, makes you wonder why the media sat on this so long. At any rate, this could be the point where the Obama campaign begins to fall apart, but it may be just too late to keep him from getting the Democrat nomination.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Goetzdude Pioneer100© Member  Gimmie dat !!
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
"but it may be just too late to keep him from getting the Democrat nomination." Well now, isn't that a shame...
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
|
|
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Goetzdude wrote: "but it may be just too late to keep him from getting the Democrat nomination." Well, given that I think Hillary would be a better (if only a little) president than Obama, I would say yes it is a shame.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > 24's Political Matters > America deserved to be attacked on 9-11 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Site Supporters | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Posts Of The Day | Mock Forums | WowClassic | |
Themes and most mods done in collaboration with: WowClassic - powerful forum software with the best support service.
We are partners with Forum Owner Services
Powered by - Copyright © 2003-2006 Aycan Gulez
We are partners with Forum Owner Services
Powered by - Copyright © 2003-2006 Aycan Gulez