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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/26/hillary-clinton-truth-or-consequences/#more-470 I agree with this--- I think it's a fundamental flaw of hers that she DOES indeed "remember things the way she wants to" and "hears what she wants to" I know people like that- they seem perfectly honest about it, but they really ARE shifting reality in what they perceive and recall - to suit their own desires. "Hillary Clinton has many admirable qualities, but candor and openness and transparency and a commitment to well-established fact have not been notable among them. The indisputable elements of her Bosnian adventure affirm (again) the reluctant conclusion I reached in the final chapter of A Woman In Charge, my biography of her published last June: “Since her Arkansas years [I wrote], Hillary Rodham Clinton has always had a difficult relationship with the truth… [J]udged against the facts, she has often chosen to obfuscate, omit, and avoid. It is an understatement by now that she has been known to apprehend truths about herself and the events of her life that others do not exactly share. ” [italics added] As I noted:The Bosnian episode is a watershed event, because it indelibly brings to mind so many examples of this tendency– from the White House years and, worse, from Hillary Clinton’s take-no-prisoners presidential campaign. Her record as a public person is replete with “misstatements” and elisions and retracted and redacted and revoked assertions… When the facts surrounding such characteristic episodes finally get sorted out — usually long after they have been challenged — the mysteries and contradictions are often dealt with by Hillary Clinton and her apparat in a blizzard of footnotes, addenda, revision, and disingenuous re-explanation: as occurred in regard to the draconian secrecy she imposed on her health-care task force (and its failed efforts in 1993-94); explanations of what could have been dutifully acknowledged, and deserved to be dismissed as a minor conflict of interest — once and for all — in Whitewater; or her recent Michigan-Florida migration from acceptance of the DNC’s refusal to recognize those states’ convention delegations (when it looked like she had the nomination sewn up) to her re-evaluation of the matter as a grave denial of basic human rights, after she fell impossibly behind in the delegate count.The latest episode — the sniper fire she so vividly remembered and described in chilling detail to buttress her claims of foreign policy “experience” — like the peace she didn’t bring to Northern Ireland, recalls another famous instance of faulty recollection during a crucial period in her odyssey.On January 15, 1995, she had just published her book, It Takes a Village, intended to herald a redemptive “come back” after the ravages of health care; Whitewater; the Travel Office firings she had ordered (but denied ordering); the disastrous staffing of the White House by the First Lady, not the President — all among the egregious errors that had led to the election of the Newt Gingrich Congress in 1994.On her book tour, she was asked on National Public Radio about the re-emergence of dormant Whitewater questions that week, when the so-called “missing billing records” had been found. Hillary stated with unequivocal certainty that she had consistently made public all the relevant documents related to Whitewater, including “every document we had,” to the editors of the New York Times before the newspaper’s original Whitewater story ran during Bill Clinton’s 1992 presidential campaign. Even her closest aides — as in the case of the Bosnian episode18 years later — could not imagine what possessed her to say such a thing. It was simply not true, as her lawyers and the editors of the Times (like CBS in the latest instance) recognized, leading to huge stories about her latest twisting of the facts. “Oh my God, we didn’t,” said Susan Thomasas, Hillary’s great friend, who was left to explain to the White House lawyers exactly how Hillary’s aides had carefully cherry-picked documents accessed for the Times in the presidential campaign. The White House was forced — once again — to acknowledge the first lady had been ‘mistaken;” her book tour was overwhelmed by the matter, and Times’ columnist Bill Safire that month coined the memorable characterization of Hillary Clinton as “a congenital liar.” “Hillary values context; she does see the big picture. Hers, in fact, is not the mind of a conventional politician,” I wrote in A Woman In Charge. “But when it comes to herself, she sees with something less than candor and lucidity. She sees, like so many others, what she wants to see.” The book concludes with this paragraph: “As Hillary has continued to speak from the protective shell of her own making, and packaged herself for the widest possible consumption, she has misrepresented not just facts but often her essential self. Great politicians have always been marked by the consistency of their core beliefs, their strength of character in advocacy, and the self-knowledge that informs bold leadership. Almost always, Hillary has stood for good things. Yet there is a disconnect between her convictions and her words and actions. This is where Hillary disappoints. But the jury remains out. She still has time to prove her case, to effectuate those things that make her special, not fear them or camouflage them. We would all be the better for it, because what lies within may have the potential to change the world, if only a little.”The jury — armed with definitive evidence like the CBS tape of Hillary Clinton’s Bosnian adventure — seems on the verge of returning a negative verdict on her candidacy. "
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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I've always found her to be fake and she always avoided the press and answering questions in a general way. She is famous for not making herself available for questioning by the People.
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Goetzdude Pioneer100© Member  Gimmie dat !!
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Obama Girl is hot!
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member 
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There is always one sure fire method to tell if a politician is lying. There mouth will be moving.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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muddawber wrote: There is always one sure fire method to tell if a politician is lying. There mouth will be moving. Oh Geez........I love it!!!  As far as Hillary, it's like I keep saying. Her eyes aren't saying .....what her mouth is!
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There is a woman (a very devoted Hill fan, almost to the point of psycho) that actually said that maybe Hill had a dream about this happening and didn't realize that it was just a dream, and then mistakenly mispoke of it. Thought I was gonna pee my pants on that one, I was laughing so hard.
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member  Ye Olde Dead King
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Hillary Clinton, when asked by her father why she chopped down the Rodham family cherry tree: "What tree?" when shown the falled tree: "I have never seen that tree before." Upon being reminded that she helped plant that tree: "I loved that tree, we must find the evil Republican who cut it down." When asked about the ax in her hand: "My memory is uncertain." When informed by her father that he watched her cut down the tree: "I did it for the children." The next day: "Father I don't remember there ever being a tree there."
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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And this is the woman TOO MANY Americans want in the White House answering the phone call from Putin at 3AM, explaining that: "I misspoke when I said your wife was a fat bear who probably did Bill when I wasn't looking"
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Blacksheep Pioneer100© Member 
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I remember receiving a e-mail pertaining to about 30 people who have met questionable deaths and were involved in trying to expose many things the Clintons were involved in,from land deals to politics to hillary's so called..."Experience" as a Laywer(yeah right)and Politican,and meddling bitch First Lady. I read a book about her called "Her Way" and I cant stand this woman and what she has done and all her ghosts in the closet. She will most definatly NOT be what we want the rest of the world to think is our "Example" of who we hold in high enough regard to vote in as President. I find it just unbelievable that she has enough support to have gotten this far. Every day,..I get more disillusioned about where our country is going when I see how many P.O.S's are in charge of our political agenda's,...especially Congress and such.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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Blacksheep wrote: I remember receiving a e-mail pertaining to about 30 people who have met questionable deaths and were involved in trying to expose many things the Clintons were involved in,from land deals to politics to hillary's so called..."Experience" as a Laywer(yeah right)and Politican,and meddling bitch First Lady. And how many citizens are willing to support those POSs just because they're from their state, or hometown, or the like their hair color, or whatever. Anything but actually LOOKING at the degree of corruption and moral bankruptcy in these people -- just elect em anyway because they bring lots of $$$ to MY state, never mind if that's good for all of America, or because they're good buddies with my uncle's cousin... anything but REAL clear thinking in "is this person the most moral and ethical among the candidates"??
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member Ye Olde Dead King
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I am reminded of something Dick Morris said: "I don't regret helping Bill (Clinton) get elected president, but I deeply regret my part in making it possible that she (Hillary) could get elected." Of course I am not saying that Obama is the least bit better than Hillary. He is a proven liar, a Marxist, a racist and he is smug about it all. McCain, like Hillary and Obama, supports making all 20 million Mexicans in this coutry citizens, he was one of the "Keating Five" and so on. Any of these three make Nixon look like a saint!
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Blacksheep Pioneer100© Member
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Sirlamre,...I do see that from some people. The biggest thing I see is a lack of doing anything even tho many are outraged and disgusted.they seem to act like,.."well,...their all going to be like that"...and as if it will always be the same thing no matter who we put in. Yeah,...it will...if we keep allowing it to happen by looking the other way and not acting on it.
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muddawber Guardian1000© Member
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Blacksheep wrote: Sirlamre,...I do see that from some people.  
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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I think it's a fundamental flaw of hers that she DOES indeed "remember things the way she wants to" and "hears what she wants to" Its called "perception," "self-image," and "self-actualization" and everyone does it. Including you.
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