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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member 
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"I'm not sure why the men seem to all be such strong supporters of Obama" I think it's a combination of hatred for Bush that blinds, an unwillingness to be critical of Obama fearing racist reprisal, his media savvy and ability to swoon listeners, and the illusions he conjures up when by the promises of "change". Obama is a slick politician, a media personality void of substance. That was the opinion of both Clintons. Of course you'll never hear them say that now.
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Amy Original500© Member  ...going with the flow...
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muddawber wrote:
Regardless of what you may see some Baha'i's say about politics....One thing you should know is that Baha'i's should not become embroiled in partisanship. So anytime you read what one Baha'i says about this person or that, it is strictly a personal thing and should in no way be attributed to a Baha'i way of thinking...  Last edited on 07:04 pm by Amy |
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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pmh1nic wrote: "I'm not sure why the men seem to all be such strong supporters of Obama" When a Baha`i flips a lever in the voting booth he is not supposed to flip a "party" lever. He's supposed to flip the lever based on the candidate in every office and each and every referendum questions without regard to partisan politics. At this point, I, personally am inclined to vote vote for McCain. This is not the first Tuesday in November, though, we'll have to see what happens between now and then. Regards, Scott
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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muddawber wrote:
Then would he fit in with the NWO as well? I truly don't know, I'm asking.. pmh, probably his charisma like you said, as well as what Mud's saying here too. I don't like the fact that you Bahai's jump on me for bringing up the fact that Obama has ties with the Muslims, then I find out you have strong ties with the United Nations?? Is there an agenda here???
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IF Obama were an Iranian citizen, he would be guilty of apostasy because his father was a muslim and he was not. What kind of a beneficial tie is that? Regards, Scott
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Popeyesays wrote: IF Obama were an Iranian citizen, he would be guilty of apostasy because his father was a muslim and he was not. Can I ask you a question popeye, before I try to answer your question? Do the Bahai's have strong ties to the United Nations?
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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The Baha`i's are an NGO (non-governmental organization) at the UN. NGO's began with the international abolition and woman suffrage movements it's since the UN was founded that the term NGO has come into flower. NGO's exist in every country, not just at the UN. India recognizes between one and two million various NGO's, The Russian Federation has about half-a-million. The UN recognizes about 40,000 NGO's. Baha`i's are one of those NGO's. From the Wikipedia: "History International non-governmental organizations have a history dating back to at least the mid-nineteenth century.[4] They were important in the anti-slavery movement and the movement for women's suffrage, and reached a peak at the time of the World Disarmament Conference.[5] However, the phrase "non-governmental organization" only came into popular use with the establishment of the United Nations Organization in 1945 with provisions in Article 71 of Chapter 10 of the United Nations Charter[6] for a consultative role for organizations which are neither governments nor member states – see Consultative Status. The definition of "international NGO" (INGO) is first given in resolution 288 (X) of ECOSOC on February 27, 1950: it is defined as "any international organization that is not founded by an international treaty". The vital role of NGOs and other "major groups" in sustainable development was recognised in Chapter 27[7] of Agenda 21, leading to intense arrangements for a consultative relationship between the United Nations and non-governmental organizations.[8] Globalisation during the 20th century gave rise to the importance of NGOs. Many problems could not be solved within a nation. International treaties and international organizations such as the World Trade Organization were perceived as being too centred on the interests of capitalist enterprises. Some argued that in an attempt to counterbalance this trend, NGOs have developed to emphasise humanitarian issues, developmental aid and sustainable development. A prominent example of this is the World Social Forum which is a rival convention to the World Economic Forum held annually in January in Davos, Switzerland. The fifth World Social Forum in Porto Alegre, Brazil, in January 2005 was attended by representatives from more than 1,000 NGOs.[citation needed] Some have argued that in forums like these, NGOs take the place of what should belong to popular movements of the poor. Others argue that NGOs are often imperialist in nature and that they fulfill a similar function to that of the clergy during the high colonial era. Whatever the case, NGO transnational networking is now extensive.[9] [edit] Types of NGOs Apart from 'NGO' often alternative terms are used as for example independent sector, volunteer sector, civil society, grassroots organisations, transnational social movement organisations, private voluntary organisations, self-help organisations and non-state actors (NSA's). Nongovernmental organisations are a heterogeneous group. A long list of acronyms has developed around the term 'NGO'. These include: INGO stands for international NGO; BINGO is short for business-oriented international NGO, or big international NGO; ENGO, short for environmental NGO, such as Global 2000; GONGOs are government-operated NGOs, which may have been set up by governments to look like NGOs in order to qualify for outside aid or promote the interests of the government in question; QUANGOs are quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisations, such as the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). (The ISO is actually not purely an NGO, since its membership is by nation, and each nation is represented by what the ISO Council determines to be the 'most broadly representative' standardisation body of a nation. That body might itself be a nongovernmental organisation; for example, the United States is represented in ISO by the American National Standards Institute, which is independent of the federal government. However, other countries can be represented by national governmental agencies; this is the trend in Europe.) TANGO, short for technical assistance NGO; CSO, short for civil society organization; " Regards, Scott
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Thank you popeye! This is going to take a minute for me to really digest what exactly you're saying here. You've given me something to take a look at! I'll will get back to you...........
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Wheels Original500© Member 
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Lets get right down to the nitty gritty of Mr. Obama First of all, there are whites and there are white trash, just as there are black and there are niggers! 1.Obama sat in a church for 20 years, listening to a racist preacher. That tells me he either isn't smart enough to understand what he was hearing, or he agreed with his so called preacher. 2. While some of his remarks HAVE been taken out of context, it is a fact that he spoke about denying his mothers race, but then makes a 180 and tries to say his uncle helped liberate a concentration camp that was liberated by the Russian Army. Fact is, he didn't have an uncle in WW2. The above things alone, tell me he's a lying, racist, nigger, and anyone that would vote for him, doesn't have the brains God gave a Goose!
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member  Official Forum Heretic
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Wheels wrote:
So tell us how you REALLY feel! I don't think I've heard a mature human being call another one a "nigger" since I was a little child. Amazing. I thought we'd outgrown that particular word.
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Amazing. I thought we'd outgrown that particular word. Since you're one of politically correct, I can understand you saying that. I call it like I see it. My Grandfather taught me years ago to call shit, shit. And if it smells, to say so.
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Obama's mother is too young to have served or have siblings serve in the armed forces during WW2. Perhaps a Great-Uncle? Anyway, Buchenwald was not a death camp and that was the camp in question. It was liberated by Patton's Army. Belzec on the other hand WAS a death camp, it was in Poland and it was never really lierated by anyone because it ceased to exist in late 1943. It was bulldozed over, bodies exumed, cremated and re-buried and covered over with what appeared to be a farm by the Nazi Occupation government in Poland. All three Aktion Rhinehardt Camps (Belzec, Treblinka and SObibor) were "covered up in this manner. Auschwitz/Birkenau camps were created to replace the Aktion Rhinehardt Camps. Regards, Scott
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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Wheels wrote: Amazing. I thought we'd outgrown that particular word. Funny, I thought people had outgrown being "oh-fended" by words. The whole "sticks and stones" thing. If I think someone is a nigger, I say, "that's a nigger". And it has nothing to do with the color of their skin. Obama = nigger.
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Wheels Original500© Member
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You need to check your facts.
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Wheels wrote: You need to check your facts. Who does? I did graduate work on military history for WW2 and the aftermath. I'll stand by my description of the Aktion Rhinehaqrdt Camps, thank you. Regards, Scott
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