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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member  ~~sea hag~~:)
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Supreme Court Gun Ban Ruling Expected Tomorrow The U.S. Supreme Court today did not release its long-awaited ruling on whether the District's handgun ban violates the Second Amendment. That means the potentially landmark decision will almost certainly come tomorrow morning when the court is planning to issue the last of its rulings for the term. The case, District of Columbia v. Heller, which was argued nearly four months ago, could settle the decades-old debate over whether the Second Amendment grants individuals the right to own firearms.
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  Lovin' the Life
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Tomorrow??? Guess who won't be sleeping tonight...... My mood tomorrow will be determined by the decision of the injustice system. If I don't show up tomorrow, I've gone off to join the revolt and incite riots. Last edited on 06-26-2008 03:54 am by UsedToRide Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet A hundred criminals may be set free, but one innocent man should not go to prison, for that will make the entire system criminal ~Chief Justice T.L.Venkatraman |
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UsedToRide wrote: Tomorrow??? Guess who won't be sleeping tonight...... I personally don't think most people have to be worried about the SCOTUS taking your guns away. I have a feeling that the court is going to "split the baby" in this one, and come up with a ruling that puts limits on an individual's right to own a gun, rather than to abolish that right entirely. The First Amendment already has a lot of such rulings related to it. I suspect that the Second Amendment is next. They'll probably say something along the lines of, "This kind of gun is okay for individual use, but this other kind of gun isn't...". Of course, that's just a guess, but it is one way in which they could moderate the Second Amendment without making it an all-or-nothing proposition.
"It's been a long December, and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last." -- "A Long December", Counting Crows |
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member 
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I have no idea how they will rule and depending on the language of the ruling how far reaching it might be intepreted by the States. You never know what the outcome will be when a group of lawyers get together to decide on an issue. We shall see.
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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The ruling was just release. In essence the court views the 2nd amendment as an individual right, self-defense in the home is a legitimate reason for owning a firearm, the DC requirement that the firearm be disassembled or have a trigger lock violates the 2nd amendment as it relates to self-defense, handguns are covered under the heading of what would be considered a firearm appropriate for personal self-defense.
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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BTW, it was a five to four decision. You can read all 157 pages at: http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-2901.pdf Last edited on 06-26-2008 02:41 pm by pmh1nic |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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pmh1nic wrote: The ruling was just release. Thank GOD! I'll tell you, they sure keep trying though don't they? Maybe they realize, anyone trying to take our guns away is dead in the water. It isn't going to happen!! We aren't giving up our guns, no matter how many laws they (who ever the hell they are) try and pass.
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member ~~sea hag~~:)
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more: updated 23 minutes ago High court strikes down gun ban The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Washington D.C.'s sweeping ban on handguns is unconstitutional. The justices voted 5-4 against the ban. At issue in District of Columbia v. Heller was whether the city's ban violated the Second Amendment right to "keep and bear arms." full story
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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Let's remember the US Supreme Court has never heard a case impinging on the 2nd ammendment since the ammendment was passed in 1791. It was only with the greatest reluctance that the court heard this case.I am glad it came down this way now, instead of having to overturn some over-zealous 1960's era court decision in the matter. I do not own a handgun at this point in my life, but I still have my father's old Remington pump 12 gauge. I put a lot of rounds through that back when I could still make a day of humping it around for upland game birds. Regards, Scott
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1jester Pioneer100© Member  Pilgrim Sojourner
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What's amazing is how many justices can't read or understand plain English and/or have a malignant and flagrant disregard for our Constitution.
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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It will be interesting to see how this part of the ruling will affect the limitations imposed on concealed carry outside the home. "The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home." While the decision recognizes the authority to limit possession of a firearm in certain "sensitive" places (schools, courthouses, etc.) there are carry restrictions in NYS that go far beyond those limitations. How broadly will "traditional lawful purposes" be interpreted? In some states your vehicle is considered an extension of your home. Last edited on 06-26-2008 03:32 pm by pmh1nic |
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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One of the most striking statements I've read as part of the dissent was... the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons." How the heck did this guy manage to get through law school?!?!?! The Framers absolutely wanted to limit the tools available to the elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons. That was the intent of the 2nd amendment.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Enduring to the end...
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Obama believes the DC Handgun law is constitutional. That's a frightening reality isn't it?
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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pmh1nic wrote: One of the most striking statements I've read as part of the dissent was... I'm totally with you on this, Pmh. It's nice to see the ruling, wasn't it? I'm almost afraid to read the dissent stuff because of how it will boil my blood.
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Obama believes the DC Handgun law is constitutional. Yes. If that is true (I will go confirm), there goes any hope he had for me voting for him.
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