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....the idea of Bush spending 700 BILLION to rescue the investment banks..

 

how much damage is yet ANOTHER thing done by Bush the head of the GOP, hated by the people--

how much damage is that going to do to McCain?

I know some of you see a difference between the two --

But most Americans do --not-- see a difference between the GOP, Bush, and McCain.

Is this going to result in a points loss for McCain, given the HARSHLY negative things that taxpayers are saying (by the millions)

Every forum I go on, every newscast I see -- they are ALL talking about how much the average taxpayer DOES NOT want to spend THEIR money to bail out stupid borrowers and idiot lenders.

Set aside discussion of whether we SHOULD bail out the banks  or not--
think like Average Joe Citizen who isn't an economics major, and doesn't understand or care beyond the fact that he KNOWS his taxes are going up after what Bush is trying to do happens...
 

How badly is ANOTHER hated decision by Bush going to affect the GOP's chances at getting voted in, especially with the swing voters and the independents?

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What makes me sick to my stomach is the Anti American/Pro Greed people like Millenium who support and make excuses for it all!

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Obama will make a Robinhood a lot more than McCain would, he wants to take the money and give it back to the people it was stolen from!

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sirlamre wrote: ....the idea of Bush spending 700 BILLION to rescue the investment banks..

 

how much damage is yet ANOTHER thing done by Bush the head of the GOP, hated by the people--

how much damage is that going to do to McCain?

I know some of you see a difference between the two --

But most Americans do --not-- see a difference between the GOP, Bush, and McCain.

Is this going to result in a points loss for McCain, given the HARSHLY negative things that taxpayers are saying (by the millions)

Every forum I go on, every newscast I see -- they are ALL talking about how much the average taxpayer DOES NOT want to spend THEIR money to bail out stupid borrowers and idiot lenders.

Set aside discussion of whether we SHOULD bail out the banks  or not--
think like Average Joe Citizen who isn't an economics major, and doesn't understand or care beyond the fact that he KNOWS his taxes are going up after what Bush is trying to do happens...
 

How badly is ANOTHER hated decision by Bush going to affect the GOP's chances at getting voted in, especially with the swing voters and the independents?

Millenium to blindly jump to Bushes defence yet again in 3, 2, 1............ 

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wallstreetman wrote: Obama will make a Robinhood a lot more than McCain would, he wants to take the money and give it back to the people it was stolen from!
The problem wallstreetman is, he won't be giving back to people it was stolen from.  He along with all our politicians today, will give to people who HAVEN'T worked.  Their motto is give health care, give housing, give scholarships, give food, give give give so that we maintain total control of all of you.  My god, you already know they welcome all the illegals into all of our freebees with open arms.  They haven't put in.  The more the government says their giving, the more they're controlling!  There has to be a middle line to stay on.  FAR to much of OUR money goes for crap none of us want it going for!  We need to take some control of this machine on some level.  The best way to do that is, vote GOOD people into office at our state levels.........people who won't put up with the corruption at the higher lever!  I don't trust either party!  But I'm sure getting tired of the Republicans getting blamed for this financial mess when the Democrats have been in control of it.  To me, where bush has gone wrong is, the billions of dollars he keeps pouring overseas!!  It's time to keep OUR money, home!




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What makes me sick to my stomach is the Anti American/Pro Greed people like Millenium who support and make excuses for it all!

First of all you sir are a f*cking fool....You don't know me...I am more Pro American than your ignorant ass will ever be...I am far from greedy, in fact I 'll wager I give more to charity than you in any given year...

I was in the Army, and fought for the freedom for you to make dumb ass statements like that....

Since when is wanting everyone to share in the American Dream, greed? 
I'd say tax and spend liberalism is greed...and you guys fall lock step in line with that crap.



Read this below...do some reasearch on your Gdamn precious Democrats and what the hell they have done lining their GREEDY pockets in the last few years...

Can you read? Do you understand what you read?  Do YOU have an agenda?

You want to point some fingers?....Point them at the sorry bastards in the House and Senate that have lined thier pockets, while the American people have gone through pain and misery...

Do you know the ones that have benefitted the MOST from this fiasco??...I really doubt it...Unless MSNBC or CNN puts the thought in you thick head, I doubt you think of anything.


Read this...look up the FACTS anywhere....Your f*cking Obama, Clinton and Chris Dodd. and two of the son of a bitches on the committe to elect Obama are up to their asses in this...and you have the gaul to say what you did.....

Your are one ignorant person....
 Anti American?....It's not MY party that's accused of electing Marxist.

The fact that you and peoplel like you are allowed to vote is down right horrible.

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Millenium to blindly jump to Bushes defence yet again in 3, 2, 1............


Again..an ignorant statement...It doesn't matter who the hell bails them out...it has to be done...Every bank in America would have a rush on them, with people wanting to withdraw their money...


Better yet.....What would you do if you went to the bank to get your money, only to find out all your savings have been wiped out, because the bank had failed...

Na..that wouldn't bother you, would it?

Does one have to be stupid to be a Democrat? or does it just make it easier?

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You don't know me...I am more Pro American than your ignorant ass will ever be...I am far from greedy, in fact I 'll wager I give more to charity than you in any given year...

That got my vote.  I was shocked at the statement that you are anti-American, 'cuz I know that's a load of bullshit.

 




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he idea of Bush spending 700 BILLION to rescue the investment banks..

One other thing Sirlarme.....I thought you knew this, When did Bush get the checkbook to write checks, without the approval of the Democrats??? I mean when EXACTLY did the laws get changed to where the president can just simply write a check to anyone, with out the apporoval of the other party?


Really now...aren't you smarter than that?...nevermind...you already implied that answer.

All of you Democrats here REALLY need to go take an economics class...

The Democrats have sat on their asses HOPING for this mess, and fought the legislation to prevent it, causing the pain we ALL are going throuh now. And why do you ask? To be able to get back in power...

That's your America loving Democrats.

The fault I have with Bush in this, is NOT fingering them out before this happened, and actually thinking the Democrats would reach across the aisle to help the American people...


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Obama will make a Robinhood a lot more than McCain would, he wants to take the money and give it back to the people it was stolen from!


LOL....this is the dumbest statement that has even been posted on a forum....If you believe this, then YOU really are living in a dream world......Democrats taking more from people....and giving ot back to others....What a f*cked up mindset.

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Having Millenium on ignore is proof positive that sometimes ignorance can indeed be bliss.
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cynicalninja wrote: Having Millenium on ignore is proof positive that sometimes ignorance can indeed be bliss.
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Millennium is one sexy son of a you know what when he gets mad!  I'm just glad he uses asterisks to cover up curses and personal attacks.  He has me fooled!

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I love it........point out the real truth...show them the facts...and then all they can do is go off topic...


Proof positive that I won that argument.....::chuckle::

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Millennium wrote: I love it........point out the real truth...show them the facts...and then all they can do is go off topic...


Proof positive that I won that argument.....::chuckle::

True, going off-topic is a sign of intellectual defeat.  I've experienced such spinning, avoiding, and derailing attempts myself from the Republican side of the fence, so I think it was refreshing to see it the other way around.

Bravo, Millennium.   ::appl::   :giantgrin:




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Millennium wrote: he idea of Bush spending 700 BILLION to rescue the investment banks..

One other thing Sirlarme.....I thought you knew this, When did Bush get the checkbook to write checks, without the approval of the Democrats??? I mean when EXACTLY did the laws get changed to where the president can just simply write a check to anyone, with out the apporoval of the other party?


Really now...aren't you smarter than that?...nevermind...you already implied that answer.



Mill - I'm not a Dem. Never have been.

This thread has gotten derailed by discussion (again) of the pros and cons of the candidates.

I wasn't saying that Bush could do that by himself--

I was asking what the EFFECT of his being seen to do it by "The People" --

Grant you, if the People thought for a second they'd realise exactly what you're talking about --- that Congress, both Parties, would have to ALSO vote to do this.

(unless there's some executive privilege we see Bush decide to use, I dunno, I'm not a Constitutional lawyer, so I cannot say what's out there in law about that)

 

I'm talking about what The People will _perceive_ and how that will change the views people have  of the GOP party and the GOP candidates (which many link to Bush, rightly or wrongly)

Again -- I'm NOT talking about what is TRUE --- I'm talking about what the Sheeple PERCEIVE to be true.

that's what the thread is about --- PERCEPTION, not necessarily reality.

because when it comes to 330 million people, according to the polls, 80% of them HATE this idea --- and 80% includes MOST of the people who are staunch GOP members!

however you may want to perceive it, the disgust most people are feeling with the Government throwing $700 to COMPANIES, and not to the Citizens is real.

It may be misplaced for people to feel that way --- but denying that they SHOULD'NT feel that way doesn't change what people are actually feeling!

 




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