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McCain lacks a sharpness, I fear
Whatever.........Don't vote...that is your best option.


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Millennium wrote: McCain lacks a sharpness, I fear
Whatever.........Don't vote...that is your best option.

Thanks Mill.  ::chuckle:: 




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Thanks Mill.

People have no idea how bad it can get...as bad as people think it is now, it can get so much worse...so much worse.....but, hey, sometimes it takes that.

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Millennium wrote: Thanks Mill.

People have no idea how bad it can get...as bad as people think it is now, it can get so much worse...so much worse.....but, hey, sometimes it takes that.

I'm not quite sure what you are talking about.  I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP.




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I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP.

LOL...really now? Put the #1  tax and spend liberal in the white House, with the #3 Tax and spend liberal, along with a Democrat controlled House and Senate with no oversite..and see just how bad it can get.......You think the Fannie Mae, AIG, Freddie Mac and Lehman Bros fiasco was bad, when they were the leading benefactors from it..you haven't seen a damn thing yet............Religion will be the last of your worries....the church may well be feeding all of us.




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Millennium wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP.

LOL...really now? Put the #1  tax and spend liberal in the white House, with the #3 Tax and spend liberal, along with a Democrat controlled House and Senate with no oversite..and see just how bad it can get.......You think the Fannie Mae, AIG, Freddie Mac and Lehman Bros fiasco was bad, when they were the leading benefactors from it..you haven't seen a damn thing yet............Religion will be the last of your worries....the church may well be feeding all of us.

Yes, really, I wasn't sure what you were talking about.  In your zeal to cheerlead for Republicans you do a lot of assuming and just start spitting out anti-Dem material, predictably.  I didn't say I thought the Dem side was better.  Here, this will make you happy, apparently.  Let's expand my comment:


I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP - OR - two tax and spend Liberals lead by Islamo-boy with religious whacko pastor accessory.  They both come with whacko religious baggage, ain't that sweet!?  :bigwink:




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I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP - OR - two tax and spend Liberals lead by Islamo-boy with religious whacko pastor accessory. They both come with whacko religious baggage, ain't that sweet!?
It's down right scary, but I'll take my chances with one. Like it was said somewhere...

"I'd rather spend my time hoping McCain lives, than hoping Obama dies"

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Millennium wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP - OR - two tax and spend Liberals lead by Islamo-boy with religious whacko pastor accessory. They both come with whacko religious baggage, ain't that sweet!?
It's down right scary, but I'll take my chances with one. Like it was said somewhere...

"I'd rather spend my time hoping McCain lives, than hoping Obama dies"


And I'd rather spend my time watching both of them in shock about how their Party was not voted in.  I know that's not going to happen in all likelihood due to the two team football game things have become.




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Saint wrote: Millennium wrote:
. The pressing issue is the economy and this fiasco..not a freaking debate......



What? You don't think it's important for the two people that will most likely have to deal with this mess to get up before the American people and tell us how they are going to do it?

What really happened is that McSame KNEW that Obama could debate the pants off him and...

he CHICKENED OUT!

Buc-Buc-BACAAAAAAAWWWW!

Saint,

The problem with this theory is that the Friday debate isn't/wasn't going to be about the economy.  Friday night's debate was/is to be dedicated to foreign policy.  There wouldn't be anything to learn from this debate in terms of the economy.

By any reasonable measure, McCain was favored in this debate.  He took a political risk by saying he wouldn't go unless there was a deal. Now, whether or not it was a calculated risk is another question.  I really don't know that.  My sense is that if it was purely a political stunt, his advisers should be fired -- however it works out.  The odds of it coming back to bite him are too high for it to be a sensible political risk.

On the other hand, I think this idea that Obama and his camp are putting forward -- that the next president will have to multitask, and that therefore the debate should go on -- is malarkey.  Yes, the president has to multitask.  No one is doubting that.  But that doesn't mean that everything, always has to go on precisely as planned, no matter how trivial the event may be.  Events on the ground shift priorities, and texting in your support for a proposal isn't the same thing as being there and pressing flesh.  McCain knows this, because unlike Obama, he's actually done this stuff on a national scale.  (The Gang of 14 is a good example, as is his work on the torture ban and campaign finance.) 

I'm not saying McCain is a rocket scientist, or even a scholar.  But the fact of the matter is, the job of president calls for a politician, not a professor emeritus (although a professor emeritus in political science would probably do well...).







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Mill, McCain has character? The character to call his wife a c-word? To
have multiple affairs? That speaks to character, too... at least for moi.
Lying speaks to character, too.

I know I'm not going to change your mind on any of it and that's fine but
I just REALLY fail to see how anyone can say anything good about McCain's
character.

Maybe if you could tell me what you think about a man who refers to his
wife as a disgusting word like that, I'd understand you better. Is it such a
small thing for you that you automatically toss it?

I'm not trying to bait you, I'd just really like to see a little discussion from you
about it.

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24HourNut wrote: Millennium wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP - OR - two tax and spend Liberals lead by Islamo-boy with religious whacko pastor accessory. They both come with whacko religious baggage, ain't that sweet!?
It's down right scary, but I'll take my chances with one. Like it was said somewhere...

"I'd rather spend my time hoping McCain lives, than hoping Obama dies"


And I'd rather spend my time watching both of them in shock about how their Party was not voted in.  I know that's not going to happen in all likelihood due to the two team football game things have become.

The problem is, Frank, that it is a two team football game.  It makes no sense to vote third party unless that changes first.  Election rules need to be completely revamped before it makes any sense to vote third party.

Until the rules change, voting for a third party is effectively throwing your vote to the guy you don't want to win most.  I'd much rather vote for the lesser of two evils and have the effect I want than to vote third party and have the opposite effect.




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Brian wrote: 24HourNut wrote: Millennium wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP - OR - two tax and spend Liberals lead by Islamo-boy with religious whacko pastor accessory. They both come with whacko religious baggage, ain't that sweet!?
It's down right scary, but I'll take my chances with one. Like it was said somewhere...

"I'd rather spend my time hoping McCain lives, than hoping Obama dies"


And I'd rather spend my time watching both of them in shock about how their Party was not voted in.  I know that's not going to happen in all likelihood due to the two team football game things have become.

The problem is, Frank, that it is a two team football game.  It makes no sense to vote third party unless that changes first.  Election rules need to be completely revamped before it makes any sense to vote third party.

Until the rules change, voting for a third party is effectively throwing your vote to the guy you don't want to win most.  I'd much rather vote for the lesser of two evils and have the effect I want than to vote third party and have the opposite effect.

I disagree - if most people voted Libertarian, for example, it would send one hell of a message.  I am no longer into voting for the lesser of two evils and enabling this crap with sending a message of condoning.




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Why not have the debate on Sat. or Sun. or any other day. If it is delayed 1 day it should go on the next day, or is that not possible?

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I disagree - if most people voted Libertarian, for example, it would send one hell of a message.  I am no longer into voting for the lesser of two evils and enabling this crap with sending a message of condoning.





    I agree, I voted for Ron Paul the first time around to send a message. My one vote. I think it's gaining in momentum to vote third party. But what does that do other than send a message? Bi-partisan decisions, and that is what will "change" this country. Not one sided one-upmanship. Do what is right for the country, not what is right for Henry the second cousin twice removed!


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24HourNut wrote: Brian wrote: 24HourNut wrote: Millennium wrote: I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. I would hate to think it would get much worse than an unsharp 120 year old Republican with a whacked out VP - OR - two tax and spend Liberals lead by Islamo-boy with religious whacko pastor accessory. They both come with whacko religious baggage, ain't that sweet!?
It's down right scary, but I'll take my chances with one. Like it was said somewhere...

"I'd rather spend my time hoping McCain lives, than hoping Obama dies"


And I'd rather spend my time watching both of them in shock about how their Party was not voted in.  I know that's not going to happen in all likelihood due to the two team football game things have become.

The problem is, Frank, that it is a two team football game.  It makes no sense to vote third party unless that changes first.  Election rules need to be completely revamped before it makes any sense to vote third party.

Until the rules change, voting for a third party is effectively throwing your vote to the guy you don't want to win most.  I'd much rather vote for the lesser of two evils and have the effect I want than to vote third party and have the opposite effect.

I disagree - if most people voted Libertarian, for example, it would send one hell of a message.  I am no longer into voting for the lesser of two evils and enabling this crap with sending a message of condoning.

If most people voted Libertarian, it would send a message.  But most people aren't going to vote Libertarian, Frank.  The way things are now, the deck is stacked completely against a third party.  So you have a situation where you're casting an idealistic vote for a third party, but that vote doesn't help promote the ideals you hold dear.  The third party candidate just draws votes away from the guy who opposes the guy you don't want to have win.

If you doubt this, I present Ralph Nader in 2000 as my Exhibit A.  Nader was basically the antithesis of everything Bush stood for.  People who voted for Nader were never considering voting for Bush.  He only drew votes away from Gore.  (Of course, the same could be said, to a lesser extent, for Buchanan drawing votes away from Bush.)







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