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24HourNut wrote: pmh1nic wrote: No doubt both will have strings. But those pulling McCain's are fairly well know quantities. I'm very unclear as to who exactly will be pulling Obama's strings and I'm more concerned about where they may be trying to take us.
What's next, voting for politicians from one of the two Major Parties because you currently feel that one has clearer indications of raping and killing only 20 women instead of 30?
If you knew that one of them was going to get in (which is essentially the case here), why wouldn't you vote for the one who had clearer indications of raping and killing only 20? Seems like simple math, to me.

Voting for a third party in a two-party system is a counterproductive exercise, unless you have a time machine to transport you to the next election.

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And McCain couldn't survive his first real stressful moment as President.
What do you mean by this?

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Aethelred wrote: And McCain couldn't survive his first real stressful moment as President.
What do you mean by this?
I noticed this, too. I assume it means that McCain, because of his age, will have a heart attack. I just don't see that. McCain's full health records (1,173 pages worth) have been released. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with McCain's ticker.

If I had to pick something that would kill McCain, it would hands-down be his history of cancer. But here's the problem:

1) The cancer McCain had surgery for is very survivable, especially in the short term. Look up the 10 year survival rate for the most serious bout of cancer he's had. The survival rate out 10 years is 66% (and that's ten years, not four).

2) More importantly, there's no sign of that cancer now.

3) Even if there was sign of that cancer, you don't get diagnosed with cancer and keel over a week later. He could easily serve out at least one term while being treated for cancer.

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Brian wrote: Aethelred wrote: And McCain couldn't survive his first real stressful moment as President.
What do you mean by this?
I noticed this, too. I assume it means that McCain, because of his age, will have a heart attack. I just don't see that. McCain's full health records (1,173 pages worth) have been released. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with McCain's ticker.

If I had to pick something that would kill McCain, it would hands-down be his history of cancer. But here's the problem:

1) The cancer McCain had surgery for is very survivable, especially in the short term. Look up the 10 year survival rate for the most serious bout of cancer he's had. The survival rate out 10 years is 66% (and that's ten years, not four).

2) More importantly, there's no sign of that cancer now.

3) Even if there was sign of that cancer, you don't get diagnosed with cancer and keel over a week later. He could easily serve out at least one term while being treated for cancer.

Are you dense???? How could anyone have 1173 pages of health records and be healthy? He is so clearly in the early stages of dementia, it's really depressing that he was the most worthy candidate the Republicans could choose. Haven't they done enough to ruin this country? What have we won by invading Iraq? $4.00 per gallon gas, $100 per barrel oil? A world that disrespects America? We need to stop throwing money down that drain--- I believe we could provide full healthcare for every American (something Cindy and John receive for free) and a college education for every American who wants one with the money we've thrown away there. Not to mention the wasted American lives.

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aknow wrote: Are you dense???? How could anyone have 1173 pages of health records and be healthy?

Umm....I have over 7,000 pages of medical records and other than being blind in one eye, I am healthy.

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aknow wrote: Brian wrote: Aethelred wrote: And McCain couldn't survive his first real stressful moment as President.
What do you mean by this?
I noticed this, too. I assume it means that McCain, because of his age, will have a heart attack. I just don't see that. McCain's full health records (1,173 pages worth) have been released. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with McCain's ticker.

If I had to pick something that would kill McCain, it would hands-down be his history of cancer. But here's the problem:

1) The cancer McCain had surgery for is very survivable, especially in the short term. Look up the 10 year survival rate for the most serious bout of cancer he's had. The survival rate out 10 years is 66% (and that's ten years, not four).

2) More importantly, there's no sign of that cancer now.

3) Even if there was sign of that cancer, you don't get diagnosed with cancer and keel over a week later. He could easily serve out at least one term while being treated for cancer.

Are you dense???? How could anyone have 1173 pages of health records and be healthy? He is so clearly in the early stages of dementia, it's really depressing that he was the most worthy candidate the Republicans could choose. Haven't they done enough to ruin this country? What have we won by invading Iraq? $4.00 per gallon gas, $100 per barrel oil? A world that disrespects America? We need to stop throwing money down that drain--- I believe we could provide full healthcare for every American (something Cindy and John receive for free) and a college education for every American who wants one with the money we've thrown away there. Not to mention the wasted American lives.

Bullshit

So just so I have this straight.....you'd rather have a Muslim in our White House running this country, than Palin if McCain can't make it? None of our odds are worth a cr*p! But I'll vote for mu dog before I'll vote for a Muslim and I'm going to post later tonight one of the reasons I'm really afraid of Obama! Did you by any chance take a look at the post I posted in here asking where Obama gets his money? That's just a start of my concern aknow. We really need to weigh our options here.

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Link for foxglove - here it is, right in snopes.

Fox - weren't you one of the ones that was decrying Obama's link with "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember you saying that he should have denounced Wright's racism and xenophobia long before he actually did so...and that you thought it was just political expediency for him to do so when he did. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I could've sworn you were saying this.

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foxglovepress wrote: aknow wrote: Brian wrote: Aethelred wrote: And McCain couldn't survive his first real stressful moment as President.
What do you mean by this?
I noticed this, too. I assume it means that McCain, because of his age, will have a heart attack. I just don't see that. McCain's full health records (1,173 pages worth) have been released. There doesn't appear to be anything wrong with McCain's ticker.

If I had to pick something that would kill McCain, it would hands-down be his history of cancer. But here's the problem:

1) The cancer McCain had surgery for is very survivable, especially in the short term. Look up the 10 year survival rate for the most serious bout of cancer he's had. The survival rate out 10 years is 66% (and that's ten years, not four).

2) More importantly, there's no sign of that cancer now.

3) Even if there was sign of that cancer, you don't get diagnosed with cancer and keel over a week later. He could easily serve out at least one term while being treated for cancer.

Are you dense???? How could anyone have 1173 pages of health records and be healthy? He is so clearly in the early stages of dementia, it's really depressing that he was the most worthy candidate the Republicans could choose. Haven't they done enough to ruin this country? What have we won by invading Iraq? $4.00 per gallon gas, $100 per barrel oil? A world that disrespects America? We need to stop throwing money down that drain--- I believe we could provide full healthcare for every American (something Cindy and John receive for free) and a college education for every American who wants one with the money we've thrown away there. Not to mention the wasted American lives.

Bullshit

So just so I have this straight.....you'd rather have a Muslim in our White House running this country, than Palin if McCain can't make it? None of our odds are worth a cr*p! But I'll vote for mu dog before I'll vote for a Muslim and I'm going to post later tonight one of the reasons I'm really afraid of Obama! Did you by any chance take a look at the post I posted in here asking where Obama gets his money? That's just a start of my concern aknow. We really need to weigh our options here.
He's not a Muslim. But even if he is, I'd trust him a million more times than the current White Racist Murderer dumass idiot who's been running and lying this country into the ground for the past 8 years. And McCain is the same and Palin is worse.

A moronic antisemetic female who gets credibility because she's attractive. Shame on America.

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Brian wrote: 24HourNut wrote: pmh1nic wrote: No doubt both will have strings. But those pulling McCain's are fairly well know quantities. I'm very unclear as to who exactly will be pulling Obama's strings and I'm more concerned about where they may be trying to take us.
What's next, voting for politicians from one of the two Major Parties because you currently feel that one has clearer indications of raping and killing only 20 women instead of 30?
If you knew that one of them was going to get in (which is essentially the case here), why wouldn't you vote for the one who had clearer indications of raping and killing only 20? Seems like simple math, to me.

Voting for a third party in a two-party system is a counterproductive exercise, unless you have a time machine to transport you to the next election.

It's never counterproductive to use your vote to send a very needed message. It's always counterproductive to use your vote to enable two bad Parties.

The best human beings start good new topics and vote on the better posts.

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Erinna1112 wrote: Link for foxglove - here it is, right in snopes.

Fox - weren't you one of the ones that was decrying Obama's link with "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember you saying that he should have denounced Wright's racism and xenophobia long before he actually did so...and that you thought it was just political expediency for him to do so when he did. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I could've sworn you were saying this.

I think that was one of the guys Erinna, If I can find it I'll go back and take a look in that thread. I remember it, but I remember the guys talking about it in a lot more detail. This link sure cast doubts on the letter I just posted in this thread though. How do you find these things? I pasted the topic overelooked facts, which is the title of the letter in search engine just before I posted it, and nothing came up! I've got a couple more links I want to take a look at later tonight about Obama, and I'd planed on running them through snopes as well. Why didn't this letter show up for me? I'm seriously asking.......

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I searched on "Barack Obama" and looked through all the results that came up.

What I wanted to ask, though, fox, is whether or not you think that Obama was wrong in remaining loyal to Rev. Wright as long as he did?

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Brian wrote:
Voting for a third party in a two-party system is a counterproductive exercise, unless you have a time machine to transport you to the next election.

But it's *not* a two-party system. There are at least six parties with presidential candidates on my ballot.

Sure, there are two major parties. But I would rather be the only person voting for someone in whom I truly believed than to vote for "the lesser of two evils."

Statements like the one quoted above is exactly *why* there is not more support for the lesser known parties. People say "oh, gee, if I thought he had a shot I'd vote for him" and then look at me funny when I say "If you vote for him he might have a shot."


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Erinna1112 wrote: I searched on "Barack Obama" and looked through all the results that came up.

What I wanted to ask, though, fox, is whether or not you think that Obama was wrong in remaining loyal to Rev. Wright as long as he did?
Somehow I feel like this is a setup, but I'll answer you how I feel. :lmao:

No I don't think he was wrong if in fact that's truly how he feels. It hurt him no doubt, but I think a person should be pretty honest about their feelings and beliefs. It's all going to come out in the wash anyway. I would have a hell of a lot more respect for him if he stuck with those feelings or beliefs, instead of changing them because of what he may think the American people want. From a standpoint of being wrong because it hurt his campain, yes, his timming could have been better.

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