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24HourForums.com > The Top 10 Supported Forums > 24's Political Matters > Is playing the race card going to work for McCain??? |
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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Posted: 03:39 am |
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McCain's campaign has begun to play the race card. They are doing it in the old fashioned way-- -- by "allowing" people not publicly associated with the campaign to discuss it with elements of their base that they feel might react to it.. Questions then get posed from the audience at rallies, etc -- by people from the element of their base that they can count on to have a problem with Barack's race. McCain then does what all politicians do in those circumstances-- -- he denies that it is that way, "tells" people not to talk that way, not to think that way. But the campaign all along _knows_ that they are not _really_ interested in stopping what could be a good thing to win with in the end, so long as they aren't officially seen to support it. They are not loudly and publicly communicating down into the local supporters and activists, asking them to pass along to ---everyone--- not to bring up race-based comments. They are not asking people to NOT call Obama "Hussein" and little subtleties like that. It's the same thing that the Swift Boat campaign tactic was to Kerry--- a chance of stirring up concern in the public. So an element not "officially" allied with the campaign was doing that, and the campaign was able to reap the results without having to be directly "connected" to it happening. Deniability. Bush made a few plaintive noises about the Swift Boat thing at first-- but then when it picked up a life of it's own, Bush stopped talking "against" it like he had initially. The same thing is now being done by the McCain campaign with both Obama's supposed Muslim ties and race. They are making token attempts publicly at stopping it == but anyone familiar with how truly damaging things to a politician are handled --- you see LOTS of emails going out to the base attempting to stop the bleeding. If the McCain campaign IS tied publicly to this, expect to see their response get a LOT more serious than just McCain and a couple of talking heads saying "now, be nice, be respectful" I haven't seen ONE such "Obama is a nice guy" in my email from McCain (and I belong to both the Obama AND the McCain campaign mailing lists on spare email addresses) I see McCain's campaign talking to it's base about all KINDS of things --- but they aren't making a serious attempt to STOP their base from giving the media soundbites to use. The McCain-bots in the audience make a racist or religiously predjudiced comment directly on a microphone. McCain gets to recant it, disavow it --- But they've gotten EXACTLY what they wanted. People thinking about it, even though McCain did the "right thing" and denounced it. So is it going to actually HELP McCain by giving some of those older voters the willies about things? Or is it going to backfire? Incidentally, Obama's done the same thing with Clinton back in the primaries.. I forget what it was, but his public denouncements were not all THAT forceful, and were pretty much just token efforts so he looked better, but his followers continued to be allowed on microphone to say and do things that weren't ethical or nice.. Last edited on 03:42 am by sirlamre ![]() Armed with the power of Thy name nothing can ever hurt me, and with Thy love in my heart all the world's afflictions can in no wise alarm me. |
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Brian Grand Poobah of Moderation
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Posted: 04:11 am |
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I think it really depends on what you mean by "allowing". I don't think it's an easy thing at a town hall meeting to prevent someone from coming up to the microphone to ask a question, only to launch into a diatribe against Obama. As long as you have people coming up and asking questions, you're going to get that kind of thing, and all you can do is denounce it when it happens, and denounce it publicly. It's not surprising to me that McCain wouldn't address it on his mailing list. Who uses a mailing list to tell your supporters to calm down? It's not the appropriate venue for such a comment. The mailing list has to remain upbeat and positive. The best he can do is denounce the comments publicly, which he's done (including the "Hussein" references, that I remember). I realize I'm going to take a little bit of flack for this, but I think it needs to be said: There's a difference between racism and religious prejudice: You can choose your religion. You can't choose your race. If Obama was a Muslim, it would be fair game to criticize his religious belief, just as people are criticizing Palin's religion now, and just the way they criticized Romney's beliefs in the past. To call that racism is inaccurate, at best. I think the Swift Boat thing is a different issue entirely. The Swift Boat group was a 527 group that was specifically contributing to Bush's campaign. If there was a 527 group running ads calling Obama a terrorist and/or a Muslim, McCain would have to publicly denounce them. But, as with the 2004 election, there wouldn't be too much else McCain could do about it. It's not even legal for McCain to try and stop a 527 group from running a certain type of ad, because coordination between 527 groups and campaigns is prohibited by law.
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