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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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sirlamre wrote: foxglovepress wrote:Is this going to be pick on fox day? Give me a minute and I'll give you some reasons why I think he's a Muslim. sirlamre, do you not agree there's enough to question whether or not he's a radical fundamentalist of any persuasion? You're asking me to prove he's Muslim, I may ask you why is it you defend him so much?
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foxglovepress wrote:
Wow. And to think I once thought you were a patriot. SO FREAKIN' WHAT IF HE'S A MUSLIM?!!! He's not one, but this is AMERICA, FOXGOVEPRESS! It's not supposed to matter what your religion, race, creed, or sex is! That's what we pride ourselves on! YOU JUST DISRESPECTED EVERYTHING THAT OUR COUTRY STANDS FOR! and I'm calling you on it. Turn in your citizenship card, you are no longer an American. We tell our children, no matter WHO YOU ARE you have a chance to be President. Are you saying that's a lie? WELL? ARE YOU?!! SHAME ON YOU!! This is the land of the free! We have Bhuddists here. We have Hindu families. We have Catholics. We have Confuscists. We have religions I've never even heard of, and THEY ARE ALL AMERICANS! Now I see the real foxglovepress. Welcome to America, IF YOU ARE LIKE ME, otherwise stay out. I might have been with you on illegal immigration, but that was because I believe in America and I believe that people who come here should want to be American, and I thought you though that way too... I never figured you for a religious bigot.
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Happy Heretic
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foxglovepress wrote: sirlamre wrote:foxglovepress wrote:Is this going to be pick on fox day? Give me a minute and I'll give you some reasons why I think he's a Muslim. People defend him because he isn't a Muslim. There is no solid evidence whatsoever to suggest he is. I am not a fan of McCain or Obama, I like Ron Paul because he is the only honest American politician I have heard in quite a while, that is why he failed. But the fact remains that apart from blanket false claims with no evidence or "gut feelings" there is nothing pointing to Obama being a Muslim. Even if he was a Muslim................so what?, the vast majority of Muslims are law abiding, disciplined and moral people.
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foxglovepress wrote:I may ask you why is it you defend him so much? I defend him because he is AN AMERICAN!!! And people like you who are trying to strip away his citizenship, just because you THINK he is not your religion are despicable to me.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Saint wrote: foxglovepress wrote: Don't talk to me about my religion unless you know what my feelings are about the Christian religion. I've had much turmoil about my religion when my son died. I don't give a rats ass about anyones religion, that's up to them!! What I do care about is a possibility of my next president having any ties with a group of people threatening American people. I can't imagine being a teacher that you wouldn't teach questioning............but then again, they really don't want kids to think for themselves today. Pass the WASL, and your off and running!
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foxglovepress wrote: [quote Don't talk to me about my religion unless you know what my feelings are about the Christian religion. So...you have no faith in God. Well then, why are you against Obama? What I do care about is a possibility of my next president having any ties with a group of people threatening American people. Nice try...but you missed your own illogic there. You just assumed that anyone who is Mulslim must be tied to Extremist Terrorism! You might lie to yourself, and even rationalize to yourself, but every time you open your mouth, you are telling everyone intelligent that you are prejudiced against Muslims.... EVEN AMERICAN MUSLIMS! No wonder you aren't for Obama. Obama stated that he'd stand against people like you that discriminate against American citizens just because of their faith. I can't imagine being a teacher that you wouldn't teach questioning............ I teach not to be prejudiced against another group of people just because you don't like their religion... especially if they are your fellow countrymen. but then again, they really don't want kids to think for themselves today. We SURE don't want them thinking everyone that's not like themselves is an enemy to be feared. On the contrary, we want them to think for themselves and realize that in America, you are free to be whomever you want to be. Even though some might stereotype them. Be honest Foxglovepress...YOU WANT TO THROW EVERY MUSLIM IN THIS COUNTRY OUT, DON'T YOU??!!! Even the ones that are stable, responsible fourth-generation, American citizens?!!! America the Christian! Worship it or Leave it! You have forgotten what it means to be American, if you ever knew at all. [qote] Pass the WASL, and your off and running! What is a WASL? Is that a Muslim thing? Are you a Muslim?!!!! If you are, you'd better get out of America, Foxglovepress is after you!
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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oddsocks wrote: Obama is a Muslim. His father was a Muslim. According to the Quran if the father is a Muslim the son is a Muslim. He may not practice his religion, but he remains a Muslim. Then Jesus is a Jew and not a Christian, because his father was a Jew. That idea of "what a father is, the son is too" comes from the laws of the Hebrew tribes. Incidentally, it's NOT in the Quran. That is a law of the nomadic tribes of that part of the world- from many centuries before Islam ever began. It is a part of the hadith (traditions) , not the Quran. What it means in any case, is that the son is accorded the same respect given his father -- as in, the hospitality due to a member of that tribe, or, for that matter, treated as an enemy. It certainly has NOTHING to do with whether or not the son has ever professed faith in Islam. You aren't a Christian just because your parents are -- you must personally accept Jesus, take your first adult communion, etc. You might be socially considered to be a Christian, and listed in the church rolls. but it would take much away from the meaning of a personal decision to follow Christ if all one had to do was grow up a Christian and never actually DECIDE for themselves to be Christians.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Saint wrote: foxglovepress wrote: So...you have no faith in God. Well then, why are you against Obama? FGP wrote: Did I say I had no faith in God?? Don't put words in my mouth Saint. What I do care about is a possibility of my next president having any ties with a group of people threatening American people. FGP wrote: Aren't Al Quida a part of the Muslim faith? Did I say ALL Muslims are bad, or have I been saying since we don't know which Muslims EXACTLY, Obama has ties with, I don't want to take a chance on him running this country? Nice try...but you missed your own illogic there. You just assumed that anyone who is Mulslim must be tied to Extremist Terrorism! You might lie to yourself, and even rationalize to yourself, but every time you open your mouth, you are telling everyone intelligent that you are prejudiced against Muslims.... EVEN AMERICAN MUSLIMS! No wonder you aren't for Obama. Obama stated that he'd stand against people like you that discriminate against American citizens just because of their faith. I can't imagine being a teacher that you wouldn't teach questioning............ I teach not to be prejudiced against another group of people just because you don't like their religion... especially if they are your fellow countrymen. but then again, they really don't want kids to think for themselves today. We SURE don't want them thinking everyone that's not like themselves is an enemy to be feared. On the contrary, we want them to think for themselves and realize that in America, you are free to be whomever you want to be. Even though some might stereotype them. Be honest Foxglovepress...YOU WANT TO THROW EVERY MUSLIM IN THIS COUNTRY OUT, DON'T YOU??!!! FGP wrote: WOW, get a grip Saint! Even the ones that are stable, responsible fourth-generation, American citizens?!!! America the Christian! Worship it or Leave it! You have forgotten what it means to be American, if you ever knew at all. [qote] Pass the WASL, and your off and running! What is a WASL? Is that a Muslim thing? Are you a Muslim?!!!! If you are, you'd better get out of America, Foxglovepress is after you! FGP wrote: Sorry, I assumed being a teacher you would have know this. Has nothing to do with being Muslim............Saint! The Washington Assessment of Student Learning (WASL) is a standardized educational assessment system that is also used as a high school graduation examination in Washington State. It's pretty obvious to me you're in a bad mood today. I'm done here for now. Put any spin on that you want, I truly don't care.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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FGP. I agree with you about the risks of a President being linked to an organization that's anti-American. I have no provable evidence one way or the other that Obama is. But you sure DO sound like you lump ALL Muslims into ALL being terrorists.
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foxglovepress wrote:FGP wrote: Did I say I had no faith in God?? Yes. You implied it when you said, "I don't give a rats ass about anyones religion" Be honest Foxglovepress...YOU WANT TO THROW EVERY MUSLIM IN THIS COUNTRY OUT, DON'T YOU??!!! You just dodged the question. Answer the question, Foxglovepress. Do you want to get rid of all American Muslims? Yes or No? Last edited on 08:04 pm by Saint A^2 + B^2 = C^2 |
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I do not trust Obama because he has muslim ties and reminds me of a puppet that has not so invisible strings tied to the major players in the Democratic party. I also do not trust McCain because he has a "good ole boy" attitude and does not seem to be able to back down and take advise from advisors. If anyone believes that either one will "change" anything they are sadly mistaken. Both do not want to tell the truth about what will happen next year for fear of losing votes and to me that is how ALL polititians do things. Obama is so inexperianced that he will be like a puppy in a pack of wolves. McCain will go headlong into danger without thinking. I believe I will step back and take care of my own house. I do not want either of these idiots entering. I will go to the voting booth this year with my local elections being the main reason why I am there.
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librtyhead wrote:I believe I will step back and take care of my own house. Good. As long as you're not voting for McSame, I'm cool with that.
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I don't think Obama is a Muslim. I think he is a misguided Christian with a view of the gospel and the U.S. that has been terribly twisted by the ideological views of individuals like Wright, Phleger, Farrahkan another others of their racist persuasion.
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pmh1nic wrote: I don't think Obama is a Muslim. I think he is a misguided Christian with a view of the gospel and the U.S. that has been terribly twisted by the ideological views of individuals like Wright, Phleger, Farrahkan another others of their racist persuasion. No dumbasses, it's been twisted by the lying demagoguing right wing phoney patriotic flag wavers who support institutionalized murdering for nothing. FGP: You sound like an ignorant racist. Turn in your teaching credential if you even have one. Are you married to Millenium? Like Mrs. Palin, do you support censorship of libraries and promote ignorance as the basic tenents of your entire world, too?
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aknow wrote: pmh1nic wrote:I don't think Obama is a Muslim. I think he is a misguided Christian with a view of the gospel and the U.S. that has been terribly twisted by the ideological views of individuals like Wright, Phleger, Farrahkan another others of their racist persuasion. Down boy... down... before you get your butt BAMMED!
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