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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Playing to a different drummer
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I gave you a vote pmh1nic for an excellent summary!!
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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pmh1nic wrote: None of us can really know what is in the heart of a man but based on Obama's words and actions I stand by my original statement. He has publically confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I can only take what he says at face value. 
Justice for Mark.....Imprison Employers Who Hire ILLEGALS! |
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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Trouble is, I've not heard McCain say ONE WORD about smaller government, at least not with PROOF of how he plans to make that work. They all say the catchphrase "I'm for smaller government" or words like it. Neither of them has said anything substantial and meaningful about how they will ABSOLUTELY make government smaller and cheaper and lower TAXES on EVERYONE. Heck, McCain basically SAYS that he has no intention of lowering taxes on the people who are paying those taxes out of their SAVINGS. Not that I like Obama any more, mind you. but people keep talking about voting McCain just to be voting AGAINST Obama.
Turn thou unto God and say: O my Sovereign Lord! I am but a vassal of Thine, and Thou art, in truth, the King of kings. I have lifted my suppliant hands unto the heaven of Thy grace and Thy bounties. |
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wallstreetman Original500© Member Patriot
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sirlamre wrote:
Just the ignorant people, the polls show that the majority aren't.
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sirlamre wrote: Not that I like Obama any more, mind you. I really don't think there's anything wrong with voting against either candidate, if that's how you really feel about it. In some sense, voting for the lesser of two evils (as I've mentioned in several threads, I guess) is a valid decision-making process. Just judging from their respective backgrounds (Obama's past as a community organizer, chiefly) I have no doubt that we'd (especially with a Democratic Congress, as we'll almost certainly end up with in January) move much closer to economic socialism than we would under McCain. (I say "economic socialism" because I don't mean to imply that I think that Obama would usher in some kind of totalitarian regime.) Socialization of healthcare, for one example, would be a disaster for people like me, because if we have to draw all our resources from the government coffers, there's no way we're going to have enough money for people with really serious conditions.
"It's been a long December, and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last." -- "A Long December", Counting Crows |
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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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wallstreetman wrote: Just the ignorant people, the polls show that the majority aren't. Poll schmoll. You don't actually find political polls to be accurate, do you? And you call others ignorant???
Respect some, trust one, fear none ~~Bullet http://www.freeholbrook.com The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons. ~~Dostoyevsky |
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member  Polymath
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Wheels wrote:[ Did you vote for Bush? Twice? That would explain a lot.
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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The republicans have devastated our country. Just look around you, and yet they are still clinging desperately to their totally failed policies and their members are still trying to vote for those policies. I'd laugh if America wasn't on it's knees and about to go under because of them. Seriously folks, vote Democratic and give our country a chance. Republicans = torture, illegal war, 4000 dead, 64000 wounded, wiretapping our citizens, (I can't believe Wheels would be for THAT!) destroyed economy, alienated allies, and corruption.
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member 
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"Trouble is, I've not heard McCain say ONE WORD about smaller government, at least not with PROOF of how he plans to make that work." I've heard him say one word but not enough words in my opinion. "The republicans have devastated our country." Another one that doesn't get it. This economic crisis is two years in the making. It has taken decades to get where we are AND during the majority of that time Democrats have been in control of Congress pushing the SPEND button. Unfortunately the Republicans having been too far behind. The deregulation of the mortgage industry was primarily pushed by Democrats using the discrimination in lending charge.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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Saint wrote: The republicans have devastated our country. Just look around you, and yet they are still clinging desperately to their totally failed policies and their members are still trying to vote for those policies. You haven't been paying attention have you? I can hardly wait for the answer to this statement! 
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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sirlamre wrote: Trouble is, I've not heard McCain say ONE WORD about smaller government, at least not with PROOF of how he plans to make that work. He has called for less spending, no pork barrel action, and even suggested a spending freeze (which normally means a freeze on the rate of increase due to how the budget goes up each year) on all but the most vital parts of Government to catch up on the debt. Still not enough, like Pmh said. However, Bush was also about conservative Republican values when he took office and he became the biggest money whore ever. Obama is practically guaranteeing more spending. Both Parties Suck.™
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24HourNut wrote: Still not enough, like Pmh said. Maybe it's a minor difference, but I don't think so. The difference I see is that McCain at least recognizes spending as a problem, whereas Obama doesn't seem to. Obama seems to want to make up the money at the other end -- taxing capital gains and the income of those who make > $250,000/yr. (I'm pretty sure that's $250,000 per individual. I don't know what the family level is.) Increasing taxes on capital gains is a pretty big deal, though. That increase would effect anyone with a 401(k).
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Aethelred Pioneer100© Member  Ye Olde Dead King
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For the record, I do not believe Obama is a Muslim or a Christian. Based on his words, actions and friendships I believe he is an adherent of radical Black Liberation Theology. Being a Muslim would be a step-up in my opinion!
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Saint Forum-Blogger© Pioneer100© Member Polymath
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foxglovepress wrote:
Oh good! Wheels is for Obama? Excellent! 
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Aethelred wrote:I believe he is an adherent of radical Black Liberation Theology. I'm not sure that they teach that at Harvard. You are The Boss... which team would you hire? With America facing historic debt, 2 wars, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. Educational Background: Obama: Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations. Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude Biden: University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science. Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.) vs. McCain: United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899 Palin: Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism Now, which team are you going to hire ?
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