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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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foxglovepress wrote: "I think he's Muslim and have pretty much always thought that. Just because he goes to a Christian church ( though it's not one like I've ever been to) doesn't make him Christian. The apparent black attitude of the church tells me he believes in that as well, and only differed when it became obvious what the church was really about. In my heart, I don't feel Obama has ever truly been honest about his faith." Fox, he is NOT a Muslim. If he is, he's the worst Muslim in the whole world, bar NONE. He may not be a very good Christian either -- But that just puts him in the same boat with McCain, Ron Paul, and any other US politician, 100% of whom have done non-Christian acts towards a fellow human in order to get elected (eg, I don't know ANY politician who hasn't "bent" the truth about another candidate in a campaign in order to get elected. Most have done MUCH worse than that , ethically)* But being a Muslim requires doing many things that Obama has NEVER been even remotely seen to do or believe. No practicing Muslim of ANY kind would EVER attend a Christian church for TWENTY YEARS. If he's a Muslim, that's the BIGGEST coverup for intending to be President twenty years later that I've EVER heard of. And that would be the ONLY reason for him to deny being a Muslim. It simply wouldn't have MATTERED until now. He'd have had NO REASON to deny being Muslim for all those years otherwise. No practicing Muslim would EVER allow their children to be baptised Christian, not would they themselves be baptised. Obama himself is baptised, and many people have confirmed this, including McCain supporters. Obama has never ONCE been seen to face Mecca and say ANYTHING - even the least sincere Muslims will say prayers towards Mecca at least a FEW times, and they are NOT reticentnt about public prayer whatsoever-- Obama has been SEEN eating pork -- which no Muslin would EVER do. Obama has been seen drunking alcohol, though not often. Again, no TRUE Muslim would do that at ALL. Muslims are the LAST religion on earth whose members would put aisde ANY of their beliefs for political reasons. If Obama were REALLY a Muslim, he would not have done ANY of the Christian things he's done, he would not have taken communion, he would not have eaten BBQ or anything else he's been seen to do. Christian politicians might set aside all manner of Christian things that voters might see as reasons not to vote for them (though Palin apparently doesn't might being protected from "witchcraft") but Muslims WILL NOT set aside their beliefs for ANY reason. Heck, they will strap BOMBS onto themselves as a matter of faith! (not that they're right about that, but it does show some SERIOUS depth of (misguided) faith! That's how serious they are about their religion --- FAR more serious than many who would call themselves Christians. Again, wrong thing to do- but still a powerful statement of faith that you would choose to DIE for your faith While here in Asheville, he stopped at 12bones, one of our very BEST smoked pig places-- (winner of several national awards) Trust me --- the man is NOT a Muslim!!!! I've SEEN him with pig in his mouth!!!  If Obama was a Muslim and was violating all these rules of Islam, would it matter then? That'd be logically the same thing as PICKING Senator Craig (of the gay bathroom debacle) BECAUSE he was a "christian" when every evidence shows that he's false. Obama if anything, is a FALSE Muslim. * I regard EVERY SINGLE ELECTED POLITICIAN as a failed Christian, simply because a true Christian could NOT take any part in that system as it stands. Every single vote, they would _know_ they are voting for something that isn't good for ALL humans. Last edited on 04:52 am by sirlamre  Armed with the power of Thy name nothing can ever hurt me, and with Thy love in my heart all the world's afflictions can in no wise alarm me. |
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1jester Pioneer100© Member  Pilgrim Sojourner
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Please explain how Ron Paul is a non-Christian and is in the same boat as Obama and McCain.
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -Matthew 22:37-39 |
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wallstreetman Original500© Member Patriot
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1jester wrote: Please explain how Ron Paul is a non-Christian and is in the same boat as Obama and McCain. Tell me, is GWB a good Christian?
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wallstreetman Original500© Member Patriot
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sirlamre wrote: foxglovepress wrote: "I think he's Muslim and have pretty much always thought that. Just because he goes to a Christian church ( though it's not one like I've ever been to) doesn't make him Christian. The apparent black attitude of the church tells me he believes in that as well, and only differed when it became obvious what the church was really about. In my heart, I don't feel Obama has ever truly been honest about his faith." I don't give a crap what you want to call them, are they GOOD PEOPLE!
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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Is this going to be pick on fox day? Give me a minute and I'll give you some reasons why I think he's a Muslim. 
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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I've run across a few of these clips, I'll post more later. I know you can't believe everything you hear or see, but some of what I'm hearing and seeing about Obama is sure as hell enough to make me suspicious! I go with a gut feeling as well. My gut feeling has worked many times for me. I don't trust Obama. He's a smooth talker, and says a lot of things right, I look at his face and in his eyes and he scares the hell out of me............. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77539
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SnapNHiss Guardian1000© Member  Papercut victim
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Okay, let's say he IS a Muslim. Does that automatically make him a radical and terrorist? There are many good, peaceful Muslims. Kennedy got a lot of flack for being Catholic back in the day...
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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SnapNHiss wrote: Okay, let's say he IS a Muslim. Does that automatically make him a radical and terrorist? There are many good, peaceful Muslims. To my knowledge we aren't at war with Catholics for flying planes into our buildings, and announcing they're out to kill Americans........
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cynicalninja Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  Smiling Shinobi
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SnapNHiss wrote: Okay, let's say he IS a Muslim. Does that automatically make him a radical and terrorist? No of course it doesn't, you make a very good point there. Unfortunately there are brain washed people out there who would rather have a devil worshipper in the whitehouse than a Muslim. This not forgetting the fact that Obama isn't a Muslim of course. Suggesting he is is a desperate tactic of "if we throw enough incorrect horseshit some of it is bound to stick". Last edited on 04:13 pm by cynicalninja |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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I realize this doesn't prove Obama is Muslim, but it's well worth watching. Especially when a journalist asked a radical Mulla "Do you have plans to take out the White House?" and the Mulla said "we have plans to take the White House from within!" (info on video available at http://www.clarionfund.org ) Obama doesn't say anything about keeping the war goingagainst the radicals, he talks about ending the war and becoming friends with the Middle East. Great work if you can get it! http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/trailer1.php
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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I never said McCain and Obama and Ron Paul, etc -- aren't trying to be Christians. Undoubtedly they DO believe, they DO go to church, they _probably_ pray. But are Christians not supposed to be the absolute highest standard of morality, ethical behaviour, etc? I know they can only try, as all of us can. But when a Christian KNOWS that a particular job is one of the most immoral, unethical, biased ones in the entire world, should a Christian associate themselves with that any more than they'd willingly do things with a child-molester or thief or rapist or serial killer? NO! It'd be one thing to "minister" to those people, but it's quite another to _participate_ in what they're doing. To me, the logic is the same in being an elected representative. To me it is IMPOSSIBLE to be an elected representative in this country and vote for ANY of the legislation that is presented, without instantly doing unethical and immoral things that no Christian should willingly do. Mistakes are one thing-- deliberately choosing to vote for something that is unethical towards one or another group of citizens is quite another The pork that is attached to everything, not to mention the content of 90% of the legislation is not moral or ethical to some group or another. So to my way of thinking, no one who wants to be the BEST Christian that they can ACT like would get involved in politics, any more than they'd get involved with the activities of child-molesters or thieves or rapists. Calling it "public service", saying it's to "serve" doesn't erase the facts about what has to be done to win an election, and what a legislator ends up having to do to get anything THEY want done. To me, there is MORE to being a Christian than just saying "I believe" (in Christ and the Bible) ACTING at every moment to the highest degree of morality and ethics that a person KNOWS is right is also important. To quietly set that calling to a higher standard aside to "serve" is not service at all. So I don't believe that ANY Christian who would enter national politics, knowing what they do about the kinds of things one must do to get elected, get bills passed --- is doing what they KNOW is really right deep down inside. They KNOW when they are getting involved with something that Christ would have warned against that they have turned aside from an opportunity to excel at something ELSE instead of enter a corrupt room.
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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foxglovepress wrote: Is this going to be pick on fox day? Give me a minute and I'll give you some reasons why I think he's a Muslim. Anything you can categorically state that Obama does which is a tenet of Islam found in the Quran -- have at it! List the beliefs of Islam as stated in the Quran which Obama says he believes. Just being willing to be tolerant and trying to work with Middle Eastern states to remove terrorism from within their borders sounds more like Christian values to me -- aka, Christ removing the devils from within people, instead of shunning them Himself, etc
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SnapNHiss Guardian1000© Member Papercut victim
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foxglovepress wrote: SnapNHiss wrote:Okay, let's say he IS a Muslim. Does that automatically make him a radical and terrorist? There are many good, peaceful Muslims. Catholics have been accused of being devil worshippers for ages and the early 60s weren't terribly enlightened. Lots of people didn't like the fact that Kennedy was of Irish descent either. I was just a little kid then, but I remember that. My point is, it's ridiculous to expect someone to conform to racial/religious stereotypes. And from all appearances, Obama is Christian. I don't understand why this is even an issue.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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SnapNHiss wrote: foxglovepress wrote:SnapNHiss wrote:Okay, let's say he IS a Muslim. Does that automatically make him a radical and terrorist? There are many good, peaceful Muslims. Snap, if it were anything other than putting someone into the highest office in our country, it wouldn't be this important to me. But under the circumstances, I'm not willing to take a chance! I'm sure the pilots who trained here in our country didn't let people know they were planing on flying into the twin towers either.........
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Obama is a Muslim. His father was a Muslim. According to the Quran if the father is a Muslim the son is a Muslim. He may not practice his religion, but he remains a Muslim.
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