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UsedToRide Original500© Member  ^^^That is LOVE!!^^^
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SnapNHiss wrote: Maybe this thread should be moved to the political forum (where I don't have to see it.)   I wondered myself why is wasn't posted there.LC? How come you put it here? Just out of curiosity.
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Elisabeth Guardian1000© Member 
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That's a great observation, SnapNHiss, I couldn't agree more.
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member 
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i was being driven insane by the political forum so i collapsed it. i don't mind at all if it's moved.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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Lady Cop wrote: i was being driven insane by the political forum so i collapsed it. i don't mind at all if it's moved. Well I'm just glad you posted it LC. It's interesting actually. As far as it being in the open talk, at the risk of pissing people off, why do you open the thread, if you're not interested? 
Justice for Mark.....Imprison Employers Who Hire ILLEGALS! |
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sirlamre wrote: Millennium wrote I've listened very carefully to McCain. He has spent more than 3/4 of his time being critical of his opponent. The other 1/4 of his time he has said "My Friends"-- I am not his friend, and I don't want a militaristic, less than average man ruining America some more. I would never vote for a lifetime politician with huge military ties. What's wrong with America is militarism based on lies. I believe the war in Iraq is science fiction, so call me all the names you want. It's wrong, it's dishonest, and it's totally unnecessary. Show me a war with concrete parameters and one with a beginning and an end that can be easily explained. I'll vote for the candidate who opposes this war and the uglyness that America represents globally since Bush was elected. And finally, show me a White House that is not elitist, secretive, dishonest and racist, and I'll fully support it, with my EYES WIDE OPEN!! Dr. STeve
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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Millennium wrote:
I didn't praise Obama's policies. I like him for some reasons, distrust him for others. The sum total is that I didn't vote for him. Obama has not said BOO about how he plans to pay for his plans -- one of the BIG reasons he didn't get my vote. McCain LOST my vote when he made it clear that he'd cost me MORE in healthcare. And when he appointed a pretty face with as much corruption in her career as Pelosi has. Every bit of it just as carefully deniable and swept under the rug as anything Rove did for GWB, thus proving to me that she is NOT some "force for change" --- except to get HERSELF on the dollar bill. I saw her "I'll destroy anything and anyone to get to what my ambition is" the first speech I heard her give -- back when she was running for Gov. The fact that McCain would sell out like that lost him my vote. If he'd picked someone like Colin Powell (and shown the inspiring confidence, leadership trustworthiness, etc, that it would have taken to get Powell to agree) I'd have voted McCain today--- But not only did McCain fail to woo Powell, he actually LOST him to Obama! Colin Powell had the wisdom, intellect, morals, ethics and plain out and down courage and leadership to make it to lead the Joint Chiefs --- He has the full respect and "I'd follow him into hell" of 99% of the soldiers and sailors and aviators in the military. And he--- with all his military wisdom and knowledge firsthand of what a Commander in Chief should be (considering he served under many of them in his many decades in service) he decided McCain didn't have what it took to be his Commander in Chief. Powell is first last and always a military man =--- His "vote" on McCains' military skills says a lot. None of the other armchair generals that supported McCain had anywhere NEARLY the combat experience and non-political command experience that Powell did. Looking at the histories of many of those generals -- a very large number were Pentagon desk chair types -- men who had punched their ticket for a field command, but little more than that. Most didn't have half the decorations Powell does. I don't care what a Pentagon paperpusher who has spent 20 of his 22 years behind a desk thinks of McCain. And that's how you describe most of those generals, with a mere handful of exceptions.
Turn thou unto God and say: O my Sovereign Lord! I am but a vassal of Thine, and Thou art, in truth, the King of kings. I have lifted my suppliant hands unto the heaven of Thy grace and Thy bounties. |
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aknow This election has come down to answering the question "who is Barack Obama?" and not "who is John McCain?" My answer regarding Obama is he is a racist and a socialist. He wants to turn the U.S. into one big welfare state where government is in control of redistributing wealth as it sees fit. He wants to control the population by sticking the federal governments hand deeper into our pockets and will step on individual freedom (including the 1st and 2nd amendment) to accomplish that. That is who he is but the Bush haters have transferred their hatred onto McCain and allowed that hate to blind them to the goals of an Obama presidency unchecked but rather aided and abetted by a Democrat House and Senate.
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member NON-PC!!
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pmh1nic wrote: aknow This get's my vote!! Darn well said...........
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PMH: Socialism means the end of private enterprise. Obama will expand private enterprise. This election and these insipid arguments are so old and misguided, I'm glad tuesday is almost here. Our past two administrations have perpetuated fear, and exerted control via fear. They've sold out to the wrong interests. I personally don't know Obama and therefore don't know if he is a racist. The personal attacks never should have happened, and Obama didn't enter into them as McCain did. For all of his false patriotism, and insincere rhetoric, I believe his real character (McCain's) was very accurately displayed when he ran out on his sick and disfigured 1st wife, for a wealthy and beautiful alcohol heiress. I've watched him for many years easily losing his temper, making very unthoughtful decisions, and supporting the largest of any interest groups who would pay or support him in turn. His personality, mentality, and character are not what I admire in my president. I only hope this election is conducted in a fair and orderly fashion, and whomever wins, I hope the other side will stop the whining. And I hope Blacks and / or white Racists can live peacefully with whichever way this comes out. Dr. Steve
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"Obama will expand private enterprise" You don't expand private enterprise by driving them out of business...with more taxes, more capitol gains taxes, more payroll taxes..etc...you just don't get it.
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Millennium Original500© Member
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"McCain LOST my vote when he made it clear that he'd cost me MORE in healthcare." If that is true for you then according to McCain's site: From the international Herald Tribune: Although Senator John McCain has promised to not raise taxes, his campaign has acknowledged that the health plan he outlined this week would have the effect of increasing tax payments for some workers, primarily those with high incomes and expensive health plans. The 71 percent of insured Americans who get their health coverage through their employers now enjoy a significant advantage because the money spent by employers on their health coverage is excluded from their taxable income. If employers chose to pay that share of a worker's compensation as wages rather than benefits, the income would be taxable. To end the disadvantage to those who do not buy insurance through employers, McCain proposes to eliminate the exclusion of health benefits from taxable income. In exchange, he would provide refundable tax credits of $2,500 to single people and $5,000 to families, with the goal of stoking competition in the individual insurance market. The elimination of the exclusion would generate $3.6 trillion over 10 years, according to the McCain campaign, and that money would pay for the tax credits. Holtz-Eakin calculated that workers in the top income tax bracket would have to pay more in taxes if their employers have been contributing at least $14,285 toward a family insurance premium. Now the question remains sirlarme....are you a highly paid individual? It looks to me that you are pretty safe...Your employer may well chose NOT to charge it to you as income, and still use it themselves as their own tax credit.
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pmh1nic Pioneer100© Member
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aknow wrote: PMH: Socialism means the end of private enterprise. Obama will expand private enterprise. This election and these insipid arguments are so old and misguided, I'm glad tuesday is almost here. Our past two administrations have perpetuated fear, and exerted control via fear. They've sold out to the wrong interests. I personally don't know Obama and therefore don't know if he is a racist. The personal attacks never should have happened, and Obama didn't enter into them as McCain did. For all of his false patriotism, and insincere rhetoric, I believe his real character (McCain's) was very accurately displayed when he ran out on his sick and disfigured 1st wife, for a wealthy and beautiful alcohol heiress. I've watched him for many years easily losing his temper, making very unthoughtful decisions, and supporting the largest of any interest groups who would pay or support him in turn. His personality, mentality, and character are not what I admire in my president. I only hope this election is conducted in a fair and orderly fashion, and whomever wins, I hope the other side will stop the whining. And I hope Blacks and / or white Racists can live peacefully with whichever way this comes out. Obama will EXPAND private enterprise!!! How, by laying higher taxes on corporations and the individuals with the capital to fund new enterprises. Nonesense! You don't expand private enterprise with negative motivating factors. Private enterprise expands as positive incentatives encourage risking capital to promote new enterprise. Obama's plan will drive private enterprise further away from this country. We need to be afraid of handing the government more money and more power. I don't know Obama personally but based on his long and initimate relationship with Rev. Wright and his associations with people like Phleger and Farrakhan I don't need to know him personally to know that he is a racist.
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Millennium wrote: I haven't seen you post a SINGLE thing that was anti-McCain
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Millennium Original500© Member
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Thumper...I get it it from several here...I try not to get into the name calling, but sometimes....the shoe just fits....Sometimes an idiot is just that.
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wallstreetman Original500© Member Patriot
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Lets talk about Obamas household!
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