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Iwog wrote: FRISCO, Texas (Sept. 26) - A Texas art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a trip to a museum has lost her job.

The school board in Frisco has voted not to renew Sydney McGee's contract after 28 years. She has been on administrative leave.

McGee says her troubles started after a field trip to the Dallas Museum of Art last April. McGee's lawyer says the principal at Fisher Elementary School later admonished her after a parent complained that a student had seen nude art.

McGee says the principal had urged her to take the students to the museum.

School officials deny they were reacting to the field trip but say there have been problems with McGee's work.

Just curious did the Christians send in suicide bombers,or behead any of the schools staff?

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Djord wrote: Iwog wrote: FRISCO, Texas (Sept. 26) - A Texas art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a trip to a museum has lost her job.

The school board in Frisco has voted not to renew Sydney McGee's contract after 28 years. She has been on administrative leave.

McGee says her troubles started after a field trip to the Dallas Museum of Art last April. McGee's lawyer says the principal at Fisher Elementary School later admonished her after a parent complained that a student had seen nude art.

McGee says the principal had urged her to take the students to the museum.

School officials deny they were reacting to the field trip but say there have been problems with McGee's work.

Just curious did the Christians send in suicide bombers,or behead any of the schools staff?


Nobody has yet answered my original question.

Where does the article say that this was done on religious grounds or that religion was involved in any way? Is there more to the story and if so, where? Or is this simply an assumption being made because this took place in Texas?

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DesertRat,

The fact that the incident occurred in Texas makes it a pretty safe bet that the parent's complaint (and perhaps the firing as well) was motivated by the religious beliefs of Christians. I agree, however, that the story would be more compelling with more facts.

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construct wrote: DesertRat,

The fact that the incident occurred in Texas makes it a pretty safe bet that the parent's complaint (and perhaps the firing as well) was motivated by the religious beliefs of Christians. I agree, however, that the story would be more compelling with more facts.


I understand the assumption but where are the actual FACTS?

I can't count how many threads I've seen where assumptions were made  and the poster immediately jumped on because there were no facts in their post, only conjecture.

I guess since this is a Christian bashing thread it makes it ok to assume and just let everyone go along?

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DesertRat wrote:

I guess since this is a Christian bashing thread it makes it ok to assume and just let everyone go along?
DesertRat,

It didn't get to far because it's accountability and motive hasn't yet been made.




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It's funny how much mock indignation we got on this thread.

Just pretend this incident had nothing to do with Christianity shall we?  Everyone knows better, in fact I'd bet money that a religious zealot made the complaint and that religious zealots fired the teacher, but as long as we don't have those specifics we can assume that perhaps it was an atheist overreacting in Frisco Texas?  Sounds silly but hey........

Doesn't change my assertion one bit even if the story is pure fiction.  Religion = intellectual stagnation and dark ages mentality.  Nudity becomes evil and art becomes satanic.  Replace this news article with Ashcroft covering a boob if you'd like, the point remains the same.

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Iwog wrote: It's funny how much mock indignation we got on this thread.

Just pretend this incident had nothing to do with Christianity shall we?  Everyone knows better, in fact I'd bet money that a religious zealot made the complaint and that religious zealots fired the teacher, but as long as we don't have those specifics we can assume that perhaps it was an atheist overreacting in Frisco Texas?  Sounds silly but hey........

Doesn't change my assertion one bit even if the story is pure fiction.  Religion = intellectual stagnation and dark ages mentality.  Nudity becomes evil and art becomes satanic.  Replace this news article with Ashcroft covering a boob if you'd like, the point remains the same.
Hmmm...

Now we see accountability and motive.




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Iwog,

Your conclusion does not logically follow from the article you have posted.  In fact, it would seem that the only conclusion one could draw from the article (and your statements) is that you support public nudity.

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AgnusDei wrote: Iwog,

Your conclusion does not logically follow from the article you have posted.  In fact, it would seem that the only conclusion one could draw from the article (and your statements) is that you support public nudity.

My conclusion was that the case involved Christian moral outrage and intellectual suicide.

I'm sure my assumption is right. Does anyone have the balls to say they are sure the assumption is wrong?

Then perhaps I'll have the motivation to verify what we all already know is true.

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Iwog wrote: AgnusDei wrote: Iwog,

Your conclusion does not logically follow from the article you have posted.  In fact, it would seem that the only conclusion one could draw from the article (and your statements) is that you support public nudity.

My conclusion was that the case involved Christian moral outrage and intellectual suicide.

I'm sure my assumption is right. Does anyone have the balls to say they are sure the assumption is wrong?

Then perhaps I'll have the motivation to verify what we all already know is true.
It could have been Christian moral outrage. Let me suggest that you see the good side to Christian moral outrage. If it were not for Christians who have not suppressed the Holy Spirit to the point of complete suppression and the concience being seared with the filth of society...America would have decayed much further than it has. Be happy that there are some who remain that have thier concience intact and act upon it.

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Have you even read the article?

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/education/30teacher.html

Nowhere does it state religion had anything to do with the firing.

"My conclusion was that the case involved Christian moral outrage and intellectual suicide.

I'm sure my assumption is right. Does anyone have the balls to say they are sure the assumption is wrong?"

Yes.  Your logic is totally faulty.

Based upon the article you have a better claim that people didn't like the teacher's "flip-flops" causing the firing.

You could also argue that it was because the teacher was a woman, and you know how misogynistic those Texans are.

There's more to this story than meets the eye; it shouldn't be used to support your personal biases on the most flimsy of pretexts.

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: It could have been Christian moral outrage. Let me suggest that you see the good side to Christian moral outrage. If it were not for Christians who have not suppressed the Holy Spirit to the point of complete suppression and the concience being seared with the filth of society...America would have decayed much further than it has. Be happy that there are some who remain that have thier concience intact and act upon it.
ROFLOL.....filth of society eh?

We consider the time of the ancient Greeks and Romans (pagens) to be the elightened period.  Most major advances in Math, Science, and Art were made during this time.  The dominant religions were pagen.

We consider the Dark Ages to be about 1000 years during which no advancement was made at.  Math, Science, and Art were dead, and people who questioned the church were killed along with the wholesale slaughter of Jews and Muslims.  The dominant religion was Christianity.

Then during the renaissance, the Italians resorted to Greek and Roman textbooks to teach classes in their universities.  Why?  Because Christians brutally put down any advancements of Math, Science, and Art, and the Greek and Roman texts were the ONLY SOURCE THE ITALIANS HAD FOR KNOWLEGE!

Pathetic lack of historical knowlege, but then again Religion has never cared much for truth.......only domination and control.

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Iwog wrote:
We consider the Dark Ages to be about 1000 years during which no advancement was made at.  Math, Science, and Art were dead, and people who questioned the church were killed along with the wholesale slaughter of Jews and Muslims.  The dominant religion was Christianity.

Roman Catholicism was the Dominant religion. Did Jesus say kill your enemies? You might want to read up again on Rome and Catholicism during the times you cited. Jesus and the church (His Followers) had no part of killing Jews and Muslims. That was done by an organized Religion. Jesus loved the Jews and was a Jew himself. You need to cite properly and not call every faith or belief system that names Christ... Christian.




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Maybe the guys from Texas are afraid that their daughters will see a big weiner on one of those statues and start rubbing their legs together like crickets.


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