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sirlamre wrote: but my church traces it's roots to roman times, the beginning. As far as being politicians, is it wrong for a priest to condemn what goes contrary to the teachings of the church to his parishioners?

 

Djord  - - so since your church "traces its roots to Roman times"

that means that You're a Catholic, right?

If you claim to be in a church that goes back to Roman times, then either:

--you're a Catholic

--or your church leaders decided that every Christian priest and bishop (mostly Catholics) prior to them was an apostate and was misleading the people into believing things that YOUR church believes are NOT in the Bible, right?

Which would mean that by definition of believing in 'your particular church', therefore you believe that Agnus Dei and the other Catholics on here are NOT real Christians, since they do not interpret the Bible as 'correctly' as your church does, and Christ does not forgive acts of pride like interpreting His Book in an incorrect manner?

 

Most folks who believe differently than the 'official' Catholic church, of ancient days will clearly state that they've chosen a different route-- and do NOT claim to be in any way related to any of the ancient churches-- since they've 'seen the errors' inherent in the prior interpretations of the Bible...

That's pretty much how Protestants view it-- they do not claim to be 'related' to anything prior to Martin Luther, for the most part...

All churches that seek to follow the teachings of Christ trace their history back, by way of an unbroken line of believers, to Christ and thus to Roman times.


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AgnusDei wrote: Imp,

The Churches to which you refer (the Uniate Church, the Maronite Church, the Melkite Church, etc.) all have their own rites but they are all UNITED with Rome and thus recognize the legitimate authority of Pope Benedict XVI.  They have "many members" but are "all one Body in Christ".

The Churches of the Orthodox faith, however, have a wide and varied communion comprised of self-governing or autocephalous churches under the authority of various patriarchs.  Unlike the collection of Churches united under Rome and the authority of St. Peter, there is no such unity in the Orthodox faith.  They truly are separate and distinct churches.

AgnesDei,

Unfortunately you continue to be obsessed with the view that Christians require some kind of strict, military-like authority to practice their faith. That Rome is unable or unwilling to forsake its imperialistic view of Christianity, a view that cannot see beyond a strongly disciplined and legalistic view of the Church, is abhorrent to orthodox Christianity. All bishops are equal, all bishops have one vote at an ecumenical council. While there may have been some historical justification for the Roman Church's extreme need for an imperialistic structure after the decline if the Roman Empire in the West during the Dark Ages, that deviant form of Christianity in no longer necessary and it never has been canonical.


The Roman Church's imperialistic, self-imposed structure is an imitation of the imperialistic structure of the Roman Empire, and it is not campatible with the teachings of Christ. The Roman Church must shed its schismatic and heretical teachings before it can return to the fold of the One Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

All of the legalistic spaghetti that is presented to justify abhorrent teachings such as papal infallibility are simply spin designed to cover Rome's decision to separate itself from the the True Church.

<legalistic spaghetti>


      <pray for the Roman Church>


                       











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DesertRat wrote: Iwog wrote: FRISCO, Texas (Sept. 26) - A Texas art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a trip to a museum has lost her job.

The school board in Frisco has voted not to renew Sydney McGee's contract after 28 years. She has been on administrative leave.

McGee says her troubles started after a field trip to the Dallas Museum of Art last April. McGee's lawyer says the principal at Fisher Elementary School later admonished her after a parent complained that a student had seen nude art.

McGee says the principal had urged her to take the students to the museum.

School officials deny they were reacting to the field trip but say there have been problems with McGee's work.

I fail to see anywhere in that article where it says Christianity or anything religious for that matter, was to blame for what happened. Is there more to the story than was printed?
I only read page one, so maybe I've missed some explanation in the following pages.  But Rat iterated my first thoughts:  where is the connection to Christianity here?

That being said, I believe it would be (and could very well prove to be) a disaster to the American Republic for the legislation of morality (or more specifically, tenets of certain religions under the guise of moral necessity) to occur, for example, the Sunday Laws that are prominent in Europe.  That is the attempt to force religion on people by the government, and it is expressly forbidden by our Constitution.  Yet I hear talk of it becoming closer to being a reality in the US.  This is but one example of how oppressive government can and does attempt to forcibly convert people to a certain religion.




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I still don't understand why she was reprimanded for her students seeing nude art.


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sumnom wrote: I still don't understand why she was reprimanded for her students seeing nude art.

That's why some of us familiar with Texas smell a religious-righteous-fanatic...

since no -other- explanation was given --- and quite a few of the possible ones would have been...




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