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here's a pic of a 40 year old mother and her 19 year old daughter. i have said this elsewhere, parents who are obese often have kids that are obese, and i for one consider it child neglect/abuse.

i understand poverty is often a causative factor, carbs like pasta are inexpensive. and education may be lacking.

but a meal of veggies is cheaper than fast food fatty junk.

as for the south...i love some fried chicken and grits and cornbread too! as well as healthy greens. Italian father, southern mother, food was a big part of growing up. but it was balanced and we kids excercised all day long.

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muddawber wrote: UsedToRide wrote: Is it a habit for the two of you to make any thread a personal, private conversation? 'Cuz if it is, you're in the wrong place.
Well, this should make you feel real proud. Getting POTD for posting crap like this.

UTR made a valid point.

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Let's all try to stay on topic here, okay? Thanks for your cooperation. ::thumbs::

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Brian, thank you. I just need to add some comments for the purpose of fair warning.

UsedToRide wrote: Is it a habit for the two of you to make any thread a personal, private conversation? 'Cuz if it is, you're in the wrong place.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the thread before you came into it. There have been several people lately that have gotten brave and ramped up their confrontational off-topic or personal BS. From now on, if someone comes into a thread to start unnecessary crap, derail in a negative way, or just try to cause trouble because they enjoy it - their access will be removed immediately, without discussion. If they have been warned or banned before, it will be an immediate 30 day ban, no conversation. I've said this recently and it didn't make an impression. As usual, it will take action to convince those that think they need to say things every time a thread doesn't go as they prefer. Stop obsessing.

Please get back on topic and keep the bitchy crap out of my forum. Thank you. Any off-topic or personal comments should be directed to PMs as they will be deleted from here and warnings/bannings issued.

I am not going to sit by and watch nice people having a nice conversation be harassed by bitches and dicks - period. In Open Talk, especially, it is AOK to enjoy yourself personally with people. I don't need or want people to post like the post police.

If I ever want to enter into a private spontaneous conversation with another member I will use PM's, I won't clog up threads with off topic replies (with the exception of this one!).
If you ever want to enter a topic at 24 again you better make this your last negativity-fueling, off-topic remark in one of my forums.

The next time one of you pains in the asses wants to interrupt a thread to complain, be bitchy, or just add fuel to the fire, ask the forum owner first if they want you to do it. That is what I would do if I have been warned and facing a ban on my next miserable move.

As you can tell I am sick of having to monitor threads for the same basic group of trouble-makers. I will be taking care of this.

In addition, I will be removing people from participating in the POTD system the next time I feel they and their trouble-making buddies are voting them up over personal attack based reasons. No conversation.

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ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Mississippi, Alabama and Tennessee lead the nation when it comes to obesity, a new government survey reported Thursday.

Overall, about 26 percent of to the CDC's telephone survery were obese.

More than 30 percent of adults in each of the states tipped the scales enough to ensure that the South remains the nation's fattest region.

Colorado was the least obese, with about 19 percent fitting that category in a random telephone survey last year by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The 2007 findings are similar to results from the same survey the three previous years. Mississippi has had the highest obesity rate every year since 2004. But Alabama, Tennessee, West Virginia and Louisiana have also clustered near the top of the list, often so close that the difference between their rates and Mississippi's may not be statistically significant.

Top 10 Obese StatesThese are the 10 states with the highest levels of adultobesity, according to a 2007 survey by the Centers for DiseaseControl and Prevention.1. Mississippi, 32.0 percent2. Alabama, 30.33. Tennessee, 30.14. Louisiana, 29.85. West Virginia, 29.56. Arkansas, 28.77. South Carolina, 28.48. Georgia, 28.29. Oklahoma, 28.110. Texas, 28.1 Source: Associated Press
Why is the South so heavy? The traditional Southern diet -- high in fat and fried food -- may be part of the answer, said Dr. William Dietz, who heads CDC's nutrition, physical activity and obesity division.

The South also has a large concentration of rural residents and black women -- two groups that tend to have higher obesity rates, he said.

Colorado, meanwhile, is a state with a reputation for exercise. It has plentiful biking and hiking trails, and an elevation that causes the body to labor a bit more, Dietz said.

Obesity is based on the body mass index, a calculation using height and weight. A 5-foot, 9-inch adult who weighs 203 pounds would have a BMI of 30, which is considered the threshold for obesity.

CDC officials believe the telephone survey of 350,000 adults offers conservative estimates of obesity rates, because it's based on what respondents said about their height and weight. Men commonly overstate their height and women often lowball their weight, health experts say.

"The heavier you are, the more you underestimate your weight, probably because you don't weigh yourself as often," Dietz said.
Overall, about 26 percent of the respondents were obese, according to the study, published this week in CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

A different CDC survey -- a gold-standard project in which researchers actually weigh and measure survey respondents -- put the adult obesity rate at 34 percent in 2005 and 2006, the most recent years for which there are data.

I've always noticed that when I went down south the people seemed heavier. Is it their diet? Are they more lethargic? Anyone know why they are so bad in those States? Could it be education reasons?

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Lady Cop wrote: here's a pic of a 40 year old mother and her 19 year old daughter. i have said this elsewhere, parents who are obese often have kids that are obese, and i for one consider it child neglect/abuse.

i understand poverty is often a causative factor, carbs like pasta are inexpensive. and education may be lacking.

but a meal of veggies is cheaper than fast food fatty junk.

as for the south...i love some fried chicken and grits and cornbread too! as well as healthy greens. Italian father, southern mother, food was a big part of growing up. but it was balanced and we kids excercised all day long.

Damn ... they must both be eating fatty, greasy foods and not exercising at all ... WTF else is it??

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AussiePam wrote: I think Aussies now have pushed you Americans into second place in the obesity race.... The statistics surprised me, but what do I know?????
Hi Pam! Always a treat to see you! Aussies are chunky too now, eh? Are you aware of any factors that have gotten worse there?

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foxglovepress wrote: muddawber wrote: Okay, what's the deal here. First it was the crack about how is a Texas tornado and a Tennessee divorce the same by sqaurebob, and now and southern people are so fat. What is this, pick on southerners week? Ya'll are going to hurt my feelings. :aww:

Would you care to share with the folks what you like to eat before going to bed?? :lmao:

This was funny ... yeah, share your diet, Mud. Shed some light on the southerner way of life. We have to get to the bottom of LC's article ...

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24HourNut wrote: foxglovepress wrote: muddawber wrote: Okay, what's the deal here. First it was the crack about how is a Texas tornado and a Tennessee divorce the same by sqaurebob, and now and southern people are so fat. What is this, pick on southerners week? Ya'll are going to hurt my feelings. :aww:

Would you care to share with the folks what you like to eat before going to bed?? :lmao:

This was funny ... yeah, share your diet, Mud. Shed some light on the southerner way of life. We have to get to the bottom of LC's article ...

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foxglovepress wrote: 24HourNut wrote: foxglovepress wrote: muddawber wrote: Okay, what's the deal here. First it was the crack about how is a Texas tornado and a Tennessee divorce the same by sqaurebob, and now and southern people are so fat. What is this, pick on southerners week? Ya'll are going to hurt my feelings. :aww:

Would you care to share with the folks what you like to eat before going to bed?? :lmao:

This was funny ... yeah, share your diet, Mud. Shed some light on the southerner way of life. We have to get to the bottom of LC's article ...

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24HourNut wrote: foxglovepress wrote: 24HourNut wrote: foxglovepress wrote: muddawber wrote: Okay, what's the deal here. First it was the crack about how is a Texas tornado and a Tennessee divorce the same by sqaurebob, and now and southern people are so fat. What is this, pick on southerners week? Ya'll are going to hurt my feelings. :aww:

Would you care to share with the folks what you like to eat before going to bed?? :lmao:

This was funny ... yeah, share your diet, Mud. Shed some light on the southerner way of life. We have to get to the bottom of LC's article ...

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You won't believe it if he does tell you. I'm not so sure it's a diet that would cause obesity, I'm more thinking heart problems. Especially having large doses of fried food just before going to bed. Not much fresh veggies and fruit in the diet. Lot's of beans though, and those are really good for you. I don't think it's poverty as much as just a southern way of eating. Of course it all could have started because of that, years ago............
Man, if there's one thing I've learned is to load up on veggies, and fruits, and water and do not eat significant food after dinner ...

I've always heard that too. Don't make your stomach and heart work on digesting fatty food just before you go to bed. I think different areas have a significant way of eating. We out here tend to want sweets before bed, which isn't good either. Big piece of cake, or cookies or bowl of ice cream! To me, the west coast tends to have a lot of vegetables, FRESH fruit, seafood and steak for the main meals. Supposed to be the hip California/Seattle diets. All the restaurants tend to serve those basics as well. I don't know how "hip" it all is, but I tend to think it's pretty healthy. My mom always said to serve a meal that has color variety, and it will usually be healthy. That way you don't have say, pasta, potatoes, and bread. Instead, you look for color, so maybe steak a fresh green salad with lots of color in the vegetables, and a potato. I just instinctively look for a good amount of color variation on a plate.

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I don't think Southern American cuisine if anywhere near as deadly as British cuisine.

Traditional British cuisine is lovely but if you ate it all the time you would shorten your lifespan by at least 10 years.

Ladies and gentlemen I give you.......

The deep fried Mars Bar...........

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Deep fried candy bar!? What a great example of unhealthy and disgusting wrapped into one.

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I tried one in Scotland.

They truly are friggin disgusting and gloopy.

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