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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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What other instrument requires a whole BUILDING to play one?? I've loved them since I was about 12 -- and first got to play the 1959 Aeolian-Skinner instrument in our church. What other instrument can be louder than a 747 going overhead at 20 feet up, just off the end of the runway? And yet be so quiet you almost cannot hear it--- Even today, the one musical instrument that even a digital CD cannot reproduce the full dynamic range of is a pipe organ... I've played a bunch of small ones-- But one of the ones I REALLY enjoyed playing was this one:  That's the 1742 Vater instrument in the Domkirche in Amsterdam. The console of the instrument is about 125 feet above the floor of the cathedral, and te instrument itself stretches for about another 350 feet above that. Some of the largest pipes are more than 10" in diameter, and 60' high. It's a fully mechanical "tracker" instrument-- which means that every key is connected to all the pipechests, drawknobs, sliders, etc --- there are over 26,000 moving parts!! and 9,000 pipes Last edited on 01:21 am by sirlamre  Armed with the power of Thy name nothing can ever hurt me, and with Thy love in my heart all the world's afflictions can in no wise alarm me. |
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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Here's a couple of links I'll tell you in the next post what is so exciting for me about these links.. The 1721 Silbermann built in St. Georgenkirche and designed by JS Bach himself http://www.milandigitalaudio.com/buxpraeludium-hq.mp3 http://www.milandigitalaudio.com/O-Mensch.mp3 Another organ -- an 1874 Fratelli Bernasconi in St. Stefano -Mombello, (Varese) ItalyBerlesconi http://www.milanaudio.com/bernasconi-demos/Mombello1.mp3 http://www.milanaudio.com/bernasconi-demos/buxwv218-1.mp3 Once someone posts back to this thread, I'll tell you what is interesting and exciting about these instruments! Last edited on 01:51 am by sirlamre Armed with the power of Thy name nothing can ever hurt me, and with Thy love in my heart all the world's afflictions can in no wise alarm me. |
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Lady Cop Pioneer100© Member  BAH HUMBUG
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that is a thing of great beauty!
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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Very impressive. Thanks for posting that because it raised my awareness of them.
The best human beings start good new topics and vote on the better posts. |
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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thanks! Now--- what's impressive? I said I'd post--- The fact is, ALL of those instruments have been digitally sampled Not in the normal way-- in which the overall sound of the instrument is recorded, and you can 'sort of' play them... In this case, EVERY single pipe and sound (wind, clicks, thumps,etc, heard while playing) was digitally recorded, and made into a loop Then, those thousands of WAV files in loop form, were loaded into a software program for the PC called "Hauptwerk" (the term is the German word for the 'main' keyboard of a pipe organ - each keyboard has a name) In the program, you have a 'clickable' version of the console of the instrument, in which you can turn 'on and off' the various stops (types of sounds) as if you were sitting at the real console. Attach a couple of MIDI keyboards to your PC --- and a good set of speakers, and you're PLAYING the Silbermann instrument that Bach designed--- or the Aeolian Skinner instrument in the Washington National Cathedral (all 45,000 pipes of it).... or even a harpsichord recorded in Vienna that was owned by Mozart... IN YOUR HOUSE! ... Doesn't sound -quite- the same.... but DAMN this is the closest I've ever heard it get.. btw--- All of those MP3 files were from the SOFTWARE --- not the 'real' organ.. Takes quite a PC -- mine's a 2.4Ghz AMD Athlon with 3GB of RAM -- that's a small one for Hauptwerk, actually... But I can finally demonstrate for my wife and family what it was I experienced when playing an instrument that was one whole WALL of a building. It's hard to get the reverberation right though--- Understand that when you're playing one of these cathedral instruments, you're often as much as three STORIES off the ground, with open space behind you, stretching the length of the cathedral --- the Domkirche is very close to 1/4 MILE long inside...and about 400 feet high inside (that's the equivalent of a 12 story building INSIDE the cathedral) The reverberation time in the Domkirche is about 4.5 seconds--- that is, when I pressed a key on that Vater instrument, people at the other end of the cathedral didn't hear the sound for nearly a full second, and the last echoes died away at about 5 seconds... I've done sound for some HUGE rock concerts--- in excess of 50,000 watts of audio power in front of the stage---- But most of the big pipe organs dwarf that level of sound easily--- at the level of the instrument... You don't experience that if you're down on the floor--- only if that monster is virtually surrounding you on both sides and towering nearly out of sight above you... One other note-- Many pipe organs have interlocks on the 'pipe chamber' in which the pipes are located--- because if you were IN that room while the instrument was being played, you'd suffer immediate and permanent hearing damage!! The DB level inside the Skinner at Washington National Cathedral is OVER 190 DBm even when only about 60% percent of the instrument is playing... There are actually interlocks to prevent the use of all 'ranks' of pipes at one time--- because the organ would cause physical damage to itself from the vibration and possibly cause hearing damage to people near the pipe chests...
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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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Try listening to those MP3 files! Lady Cop wrote: that is a thing of great beauty!
Armed with the power of Thy name nothing can ever hurt me, and with Thy love in my heart all the world's afflictions can in no wise alarm me. |
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