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The Bible says…THE CHRIST WILL RETURN FROM HEAVEN.

Acts 1:9-11

Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

 

Daniel 7:13


“ I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.



Matthew 24:30


Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

Matthew 26:63-64


But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!” Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

 

Revelation 1:7


Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

 

1 Thessalonians 1:9-10


For they themselves declare concerning us what manner of entry we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

1 Thessalonians 4:15-17


For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

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Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

Matthew 24:4



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 Posted: 05:38 pm

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How Will The Christ Return A Second Time?

 

Riding atop a white blimp with the words "I rock" scrolling across the side.

Or he could paraglide into the ring during a world heavyweight championship boxing match.

If he manages either of those methods I will be suitably impressed.

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I am not at all surprised that this one will be avoided like a plague.




Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

Matthew 24:4


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well, you already know what i think.  :cool:

 

 

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Amy wrote: well, you already know what i think.  :cool:
 

Yes I do Amy, and with what's clearly being said in the verses... I don't have a clue how you arrive at your conclusion. 




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The Second Coming
This describes the supernatural return of the Messiah, after the sacrifice of the human Savior, Who will arrive as a conquering King of kings, and Who will reign and judge upon the earth:
"For behold, The Lord will come in fire, and His chariots like the stormwind, to render His anger in fury, and His rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire will The Lord execute judgment, and by His sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the Lord shall be many." (Isaiah 66:15-16 RSV) (see The Return Of Jesus Christ)

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Friend wrote:
The Second Coming
This describes the supernatural return of the Messiah, after the sacrifice of the human Savior, Who will arrive as a conquering King of kings, and Who will reign and judge upon the earth:
"For behold, The Lord will come in fire, and His chariots like the stormwind, to render His anger in fury, and His rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire will The Lord execute judgment, and by His sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the Lord shall be many." (Isaiah 66:15-16 RSV) (see The Return Of Jesus Christ)

Can you link to a Jewish website that says "the Lord" in these verses refers to the Messiah? My understanding of Judaism is that the Lord is God and the Messiah is NOT God.

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: I don't have a clue how you arrive at your conclusion. 
Amy can answer for herself, of course. My conclusions about the Baha'i Faith were arrived at by listening to what the Baha'i Faith says about itself.

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berinwitness wrote: Friend wrote:
The Second Coming
This describes the supernatural return of the Messiah, after the sacrifice of the human Savior, Who will arrive as a conquering King of kings, and Who will reign and judge upon the earth:
"For behold, The Lord will come in fire, and His chariots like the stormwind, to render His anger in fury, and His rebuke with flames of fire. For by fire will The Lord execute judgment, and by His sword, upon all flesh; and those slain by the Lord shall be many." (Isaiah 66:15-16 RSV) (see The Return Of Jesus Christ)

Can you link to a Jewish website that says "the Lord" in these verses refers to the Messiah? My understanding of Judaism is that the Lord is God and the Messiah is NOT God.


http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/questions/JesusisGod.htm

Maybe this will help you. But afterwards, would you like to comment on the verses as posted in this thread?




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JBF,  I'm sorry, amybe I'm not getting it. Are you asking me a question? Or was someone else asking a question?

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: Friend wrote: Can you link to a Jewish website that says "the Lord" in these verses refers to the Messiah? My understanding of Judaism is that the Lord is God and the Messiah is NOT God.

http://www.jesusplusnothing.com/questions/JesusisGod.htm


A webpage with "Christ centered Bible study" at the top is not a Jewish site. Can you link to a Jewish site, hostile to Jesus' claims, that says Jews believe "the Lord" in those verses refers to the Messiah?
would you like to comment on the verses as posted in this thread?
As far as I am concerned, the "Heaven" mentioned in the OP means that Baha'u'llah's teachings are inspired by God.

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Friend wrote: JBF,  I'm sorry, amybe I'm not getting it. Are you asking me a question? Or was someone else asking a question?

I gave that link to berin in hopes to enlighten him further on the subject he asked you.

And I may have barged in a little fast on that not giving you time to answer him.

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Whomever quoted me say that the Messiah is not God was mistaken because I did not say this. I think this thread is getting a little confusing. Is the topic the "Second Coming"?

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berinwitness wrote:  Can you link to a Jewish site, hostile to Jesus' claims, that says Jews believe "the Lord" in those verses refers to the Messiah?



No, because you are not seeing or hearing regarding the Jewish people in this time line of God nor the bible verses I posted to you before. To cite from a Jewish (Law) understanding regarding recognizing Jesus is futile. You are not listening or seeing lately.

 

"But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless."

Titus 3:9




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote:  Can you link to a Jewish site, hostile to Jesus' claims, that says Jews believe "the Lord" in those verses refers to the Messiah?



No, because you are not seeing or hearing regarding the Jewish people in this time line of God nor the bible verses I posted to you before. To cite from a Jewish (Law) understanding regarding recognizing Jesus is futile. You are not listening or seeing lately.


Never mind if I am not seeing or hearing. You can either show me evidence that the Jews believe the Lord is the Messiah or you cannot.

I didn't ask about Jesus, I asked about the Jewish conception of the Messiah.


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