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 Posted: 05-27-2007 11:07 pm

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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote:  Can you link to a Jewish site, hostile to Jesus' claims, that says Jews believe "the Lord" in those verses refers to the Messiah?



No, because you are not seeing or hearing regarding the Jewish people in this time line of God nor the bible verses I posted to you before. To cite from a Jewish (Law) understanding regarding recognizing Jesus is futile. You are not listening or seeing lately.


Never mind if I am not seeing or hearing. You can either show me evidence that the Jews believe the Lord is the Messiah or you cannot.

I didn't ask about Jesus, I asked about the Jewish conception of the Messiah.

You apparently don't believe the bible. Why do you want my opinion that doesn't matter?




Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you."

Matthew 24:4

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 Posted: 05-27-2007 11:11 pm

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: You apparently don't believe the bible.

You seem to have difficulty separating the Bible and your own personal religious beliefs ABOUT the Bible's meaning. It is your interpretations I reject.

Why do you want my opinion?

Well, I keep trying to get you to answer my questions, don't I? When are we going to start on that?
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 Posted: 05-27-2007 11:14 pm

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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: You apparently don't believe the bible.

You seem to have difficulty separating the Bible and your own personal religious beliefs ABOUT the Bible's meaning. It is your interpretations I reject.

Why do you want my opinion?

Well, I keep trying to get you to answer my questions, don't I? When are we going to start on that?

::wiseman::All of your questions so far have a biblical answer. Since your not hearing or seeing the biblical answers I am in between a rock and a hard place right now...




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 Posted: 05-27-2007 11:20 pm

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::All of your questions so far have a biblical answer.

I disagree. I haven't seen anything from you other than opinion. The so-called "Biblical answers" I keep getting from Christians are not Biblical teaching, they are theological interpretation. And I personally feel your responses evade my questions in any case.
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 Posted: 05-27-2007 11:22 pm

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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote:  Can you link to a Jewish site, hostile to Jesus' claims, that says Jews believe "the Lord" in those verses refers to the Messiah?



No, because you are not seeing or hearing regarding the Jewish people in this time line of God nor the bible verses I posted to you before. To cite from a Jewish (Law) understanding regarding recognizing Jesus is futile. You are not listening or seeing lately.

 

"But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless."

Titus 3:9

This question, for example, does not need a Biblical answer. The proper response is a link to the sort of website I requested.
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In those days when Jesus walked the eath, the Apostles knew who their Messiah was and today some 2000 years later there are many Jews (Messianic) who know who their Messiah is and they know he will come to earth a second time and the prophecy will be fulfilled. If what you are getting at are the Jews who do not believe that Y'shua came to earth 2000 years and this means that they do not believe Jesus to be the Messsiah then this is true at this time, but the day will come when their eyes will be open, then they will know their Messiah.
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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::All of your questions so far have a biblical answer.

I disagree. I haven't seen anything from you other than opinion. The so-called "Biblical answers" I keep getting from Christians are not Biblical teaching, they are theological interpretation. And I personally feel your responses evade my questions in any case.

:blink: ::bigcry::




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::All of your questions so far have a biblical answer.

I disagree. I haven't seen anything from you other than opinion. The so-called "Biblical answers" I keep getting from Christians are not Biblical teaching, they are theological interpretation. And I personally feel your responses evade my questions in any case.

:blink: ::bigcry::
Those emoticons do not answer any of the questions I have. But you are going to be spending more time with your family so I presume you will not deal with my questions anyway.
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Friend wrote: In those days when Jesus walked the eath, the Apostles knew who their Messiah was and today some 2000 years later there are many Jews (Messianic) who know who their Messiah is and they know he will come to earth a second time and the prophecy will be fulfilled. If what you are getting at are the Jews who do not believe that Y'shua came to earth 2000 years and this means that they do not believe Jesus to be the Messsiah then this is true at this time, but the day will come when their eyes will be open, then they will know their Messiah.

Okay.

This is NOT intended as a response to my question about the Jewish Messiah, right?
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Who Is Yeshua Ha Moshiach?

YESHUAH


The True Hebrew Messiah
(Isa. 9:6; Matt. 1:21,23)


http://www.revelations.org.za/WhoisGod6.htm

 

http://www.messianic-torah-truth-seeker.org/Fundamental/Ha-Moshiach/hamashiach.html

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 Posted: 05-27-2007 11:55 pm

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telegram to all christians.

Many other major religions discovered in world *STOP* many of which predate christianity *STOP* they disagree on a fundamental level with everything you believe in *STOP* what if they are right and you are wrong ? *STOP* maybe all major religions in the world should (for a while at least) *STOP* ?     
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What are the title to the forums where this topic is being discussed? If we stop there will be no need for the forums. Are you a true Ninja? Do Martial Arts interest you? I studied the Arts for a few years and I know how it can be a big part of your life. When you are passiionate about something you cannot help, but want to discuss it. God bless Ninja.
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Friend wrote: What are the title to the forums where this topic is being discussed? If we stop there will be no need for the forums. Are you a true Ninja? Do Martial Arts interest you? I studied the Arts for a few years and I know how it can be a big part of your life. When you are passiionate about something you cannot help, but want to discuss it. God bless Ninja.
I agree.  I enjoy the debate and I have nothing but fondness for those with whom I am debating.
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I am a mystery wrapped up in an enigma rolled up in a riddle.

Am I a true ninja ?, who knows ?, maybe I am ?, the proliferation of modern ninja's is a problem I'l admit.  

You may like to enquire as to whether Frank is in fact a "nut" 24 Hours a day (I think he might be a human man actually !)

I have a sneaking suspicion that Hamster may not be a real hamster ! ::shock::  

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 Posted: 05-28-2007 01:38 am

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JustifiedByFaith wrote:
 To cite from a Jewish (Law) understanding regarding recognizing Jesus is futile. 
 

JBF--

You're REALLY confused..

If you want to understand what the Jews believe about Jesus, you have to ASK THEM!

It doesn't do any good to ask some Christian minister what HE thinks the Jews are thinking!!!

Granted-- the Jews won't help you understand Jesus correctly --- but if your intent is to understand why the Jews don't acknowledge Him -- ask THEM!!!!

 

Based on your logic, you'd rather ask Franklin Graham to explain an abstruse point of Catholic doctrine to you --- instead of ask the Pope to explain it...

You think Franklin Graham would be a better source of information on Catholicism is than the Pope would be...

Same goes for the Jews---

Wanna know what the Jews believe? Ask THEM --- not some Christian who thinks they know what's in the mind of a Jew they already don't like...

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