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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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Thin of it like this. Jesus came the first time made His claims in person and everyone who heard or came to hear was tested spiritually by the event. They chose to follow or they chose not to follow based on the evidence of their eyes and ears. Why should the people in the latter days get a complete pass on the decision their ancestors faced. Where is the justice? Is it fair? Does it seem like extreme favortism and somehow banal? We are the same humanity, and we face the same test or the game is rigged. Or is that your point? That it is a bogus game because it is rigged? Regards, Scott
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24HourNut Administrator  Body pillows rock!
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Popeyesays wrote: Thin of it like this. I don't see evidence that Jesus' Second Coming was supposed to be like his entrance. In fact, the Bible depicts them both as very different types of events. The Second Coming was supposed to be so obvious and dramatic, that no one needs to tell people it happened already or to look here or there. You'll just know. Wating a century, big tests, etc. that is all Bahai injected. There are several reasons the Bahai account is not compatible with the Bible, I just mentioned this one because JBF was up to a verse that made it clear.
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Scott wrote:"I agree, but not in the sense that the sky will part and 24 time zones will simultaneously see the descent of Jesus Christ in a white robe. It will be a test of vigilance to see Him, but it is not an impossible test." We are not there yet. Jesus has just delivered the first stage in the previous verse to show us how easy it will be to recognize between how He will return verses others who claim to be the christ. You will soon see His coming won't be some mystery or puzzle but a literal, global event! People won't be sitting around discussing who the real Christ is.  Last edited on 02:40 am by JustifiedByFaith Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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Popeyesays Guardian1000© Member
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24HourNut wrote: Popeyesays wrote:Thin of it like this. Okay, Jesus is announced by signs in the heavens, by choirs of angels, chased inhto exile by Herod, visited by Magi, by shepherds. There is a bit of pomp and circumstance here is there not? Just to pin things down, do you believe that Christ will step out of the clouds to PROVE Himself to us? Or do you think that you should decide for yourself what is or is not a visitation from heaven? Just asking. . . . . Regards, Scott
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24HourNut Administrator Body pillows rock!
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Scott, I was just saying that the Bible described the Second Coming as far different and way more global and dramatic in scale compared to his first arrival or anything that people had ever experienced - as JBF noted, with no one having to tell you he was here, or to look here or there. I think if the Bible is correct, then Jesus hasn't come yet and when he does it will be the most dramatic global thing ever and everyone will know what is happening. No long tests or trying to convince the world for hundreds of years that this event happened.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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Scott, Are you ready or do you wish to discuss Jesus warning in verse 23 further? Jesus said, "Then if anyone says to you, "Look here is the Christ! or 'There!" do not believe it." Matthew 24:23 Last edited on 12:36 pm by JustifiedByFaith Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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24HourNut wrote: Scott, I was just saying that the Bible described the Second Coming as far different and way more global and dramatic in scale compared to his first arrival or anything that people had ever experienced - as JBF noted, with no one having to tell you he was here, or to look here or there. I think if the Bible is correct, then Jesus hasn't come yet and when he does it will be the most dramatic global thing ever and everyone will know what is happening. No long tests or trying to convince the world for hundreds of years that this event happened. http://www.biblemetaphors.com http://www.biblemetaphors.com/metaphors2.htm Books on the topic of metaphor in the Bible
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Scott, Yes, continue please. Regards, Scott
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Jesus said, "For false christs and false prophets will rise up and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24 Jesus has now warned the church about deceivers claiming to be the Christ or claiming to be a prophet of Christ five times in 24 verses! Would it be wise to really hear Jesus warnings and make sure to know the difference between the coming of a false christ and the coming of the real Jesus?
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Jesus said, "For false christs and false prophets will rise up and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." 1 John 4 1Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. 5They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. 6We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 7Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. red letters added by me for emphasis "Reflect how Jesus, the Spirit of God, was, notwithstanding His extreme meekness and perfect tender-heartedness, treated by His enemies. So fierce was the opposition which He, the Essence of Being and Lord of the visible and invisible, had to face, that He had nowhere to lay His head. He wandered continually from place to place, deprived of a permanent abode. " Words of Baha`u'llah in Gleanings, p. 57 one of hundreds of references to Jesus that show He confesses that Jesus is come in the flesh. Regards, Scott
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Could there be any false prophets or wannabee christs who say outwardly with their lips, "Jesus has come in the flesh"? If yes, is that a sure way or only method given in scripture to detect the false from the true?
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Could there be any false prophets or wannabee christs who say outwardly with their lips, "Jesus has come in the flesh"? One has to weigh their words and judge them by their actions; it is a requirement of the individual to do that. That's what "Free Will" is in its Essence. The best proof of a Prophet is His Words and His Person, that is certainly how one chooses Jesus. . . . or Moses, or Muhammed . . . . . . . or Baha`u'llah. It is not just my right to choose, it is the obligation before God with which I was created. If I FEAR to choose, I am like the servant who buried his talents in the earth, rather than risk them. That is not an enviable position in which to be. Regards, Scott Last edited on 02:26 pm by Popeyesays |
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Are you ready to see how Jesus plainly describes the difference between how He will return verses a false christ? Do you happen to notice how Jesus uses no parables or mysteries when answering the question by His followers? "Tell us, when will these things be and what will be the sign of Your coming and the end of the age?"
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Are you ready to see how Jesus plainly describes the difference between how He will return verses a false christ? "Ready on the LEFT! Ready on the RIGHT! Ready on the FIRING LINE! Shoot!"
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Popeyesays wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:Are you ready to see how Jesus plainly describes the difference between how He will return verses a false christ? This is good.  Get a good night's sleep because we are going to let Jesus speak for Himself and see what He has to say. The urge to put words into His mouth might increase... but let's refrain if at all possible. Stay tuned. 
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