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sirlamre Pioneer100© Member Official Forum Troublemaker
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I think we're already headed towards a world government. Not in the sense that there won't BE any more countries, and that a world government would attempt to 'get inside' a country and tell them what to do-- (though that might be attempted, that certainly would fail) I think the way we're headed there is simple--- commerce. The countries of the world are FAR FAR FAR less independent than they were just 200 years ago--- because EVERYONE buys something made by or grown by someone else. I think the job of a world government would be the regulation of that in a way that is fair to ALL countries--- no one country to take advantage of every other country in the world and screw all other countries over on pricing, shipping. the other advantage a world government would have is that it would eventually HAVE the power to enforce no-child-slavery laws, enact health laws world wide (considering the next epidemic will BEGIN in a foreign country and come here via travellers, that will be important) Yes-- a world government COULD be abused, and likely somewhat will be-- But we really already HAVE a world government--- we already have all the pieces-- the trade organizations like the WTO (which the US shamelessly uses to advance ourselves over others), and many other maritime commerce organizations. All that will happen is for those organizations to join together with all their representatives from each country in trade, agriculture, health, political interests, etc and hey presto-- it's a world government. It won't be some secret hidden manifesto of some secret tiny group of people.. It's all the big countries, the big corporations -- who already have formed many hundreds of organizations that span country lines, etc- --
 Armed with the power of Thy name nothing can ever hurt me, and with Thy love in my heart all the world's afflictions can in no wise alarm me. |
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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Brian wrote: if a world government is formed, that won't be by choice, either. If it's put to a vote, it'll fail. Again, don't forget you're asking countries like Israel and Iran to get into the same lifeboat. The only way countries like that would ever cooperate (even short-term) is if something cataclysmic (think violent E.T's or an imminent asteroid collision) was about to happen. Even that would be cooperation, rather than any ceding of autonomy. If there WERE a worldwide catastrophe, where we had to unite to survive, if only for a little while, could the idea possibly catch on, and the survivors decide to make world unity permanent?
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member  Without Jesus we fall short...
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berinwitness wrote: What do you think of the idea of uniting the entire world? That may or may not involve such things as gradually breaking down national borders, establishing a common world language, etc. Does it sound United Nations like?
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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Brian Grand Poobah of Moderation 
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berinwitness wrote: Brian wrote:if a world government is formed, that won't be by choice, either. If it's put to a vote, it'll fail. In that kind of situation, where we had to do it to survive, whether or not we'd stay that way would depend upon how long the crisis lasted. If, as you say, it was only for a little while, my guess would be no. I think we'd see that that worked, and possibly arrange some sort of world alliance along the lines of, "Okay, if we're attacked from the outside, we're all going to do that again." But once the over-arching crisis was over, I think the union would crumble. I think it would have to. The crisis itself would be so unpleasant that people would be anxious for it to be over, and for things to go "back to normal".
"It's been a long December, and there's reason to believe maybe this year will be better than the last." -- "A Long December", Counting Crows |
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote:What do you think of the idea of uniting the entire world? That may or may not involve such things as gradually breaking down national borders, establishing a common world language, etc. From my point of view, far more than what the U..N. is now. A world government with elected officials from each nation, and power to enforce international laws and treaties.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:berinwitness wrote:What do you think of the idea of uniting the entire world? That may or may not involve such things as gradually breaking down national borders, establishing a common world language, etc. Who possibly could be the world ruler of this world government? 
Jesus said, "Take heed that no one deceives you." Matthew 24:4 |
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: Elected officials from each nation.
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JustifiedByFaith Pioneer100© Member Without Jesus we fall short...
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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote:berinwitness wrote: I see.
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BruceDLimber Original500© Member  (a Baha'i who loves to sing!)
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UsedToRide wrote: berinwitness wrote:UsedToRide wrote:Pass me some of whatever you're smoking. I'm sorry: who is is that's forcing you to read it? Bruce
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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I want to respond to a statement made in the "Twin Towers" thread. I'm FOR walk-through borders. And I'm for protecting those borders by a consciousness of the oneness of mankind. Last edited on 02:59 pm by berinwitness |
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moguitar Guest
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Humans are not anywhere near homogeneous enough to have "one world" utopia. Such a world would have to have one culture, one language, and a narrow range of high intelligence. Right now there is enough differences within the species for a speciation event. For instance(just one type of difference), the average Mexican or negro , remember, average, is MUCH closer in intelligence to chimpanzees than me. The one world utopia also requires a stable population less than long term sustainable at a reasonable green standard of living with high tech. That means 6 billion have to go, now!
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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moguitar wrote: Humans are not anywhere near homogeneous enough to have "one world" utopia. Such a world would have to have one culture, one language The Baha'i Faith teaches this, so I agree. the average Mexican or negro , remember, average, is MUCH closer in intelligence to chimpanzees than me. Which means that you are abnormal, and will be relegated to the fringes of a world society. (snicker) The one world utopia also requires a stable population less than long term sustainable at a reasonable green standard of living with high tech. That means 6 billion have to go, now! Eventually we will all develop an awareness of the needs of the planet as a whole, and then we will stop having so many children. I hope for a more peaceful solution than the sudden extermination of six billion souls.
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Amy Original500© Member  ...going with the flow...
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berinwitness wrote: moguitar wrote:Humans are not anywhere near homogeneous enough to have "one world" utopia. Such a world would have to have one culture, one language Not quite... Unity in Diversity.  "On the contrary, what Bahá'u'lláh has done for us all is to provide a standard by which to determine what is pleasing in God's sight, thereby freeing us to maintain those elements of diversity which are unique to our different cultures." (The Universal House of Justice, 1998 Dec 16, Traditional practices in Africa) "...permit them to become fully-contributing members of their national communities, while simultaneously preserving their unique cultures and identities.... In the Bahá'í view, respect for different cultures can only be achieved if we are able to perceive, underlying our cultural variations, our essential unity as one human race..." (Baha'i International Community, 1988 Aug 01, Rights of Indigenous Populations) also, regarding one language... iov...each nation would maintain their native tongue...but also, all of the nations of the world will eventually agree upon and choose one International Auxiliary language, which will then be taught in every school around the world. This will then permit people to communicate no matter where they go. imho - This will eventually happen, simply because it make economic good sense. Companies spend a fortune having directions translated into numerous languages, this solution would solve this problem and directions would only need to be written in their own native tongue and the auxiliary language. Last edited on 04:49 pm by Amy |
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foxglovepress Forum-Blogger© Original500© Member  NON-PC!!
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berinwitness wrote: I want to respond to a statement made in the "Twin Towers" thread. I'm FOR walk-through borders. And I'm for protecting those borders by a consciousness of the oneness of mankind. Oh Lord.................you either have the patents of a Saint, or you are in some sort of movie set! Think of people in one apartment building ALL getting along! Then think of people in one city ALL getting along! Now............think of everyone in the entire world ALL getting along! Do you see my point?
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berinwitness Original500© Member
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foxglovepress wrote: berinwitness wrote:I want to respond to a statement made in the "Twin Towers" thread. I'm FOR walk-through borders. And I'm for protecting those borders by a consciousness of the oneness of mankind. I believe there has been a new Revelation from God pouring out the Holy Spirit upon the entire Earth, which gives us the ability and the desire to love each other and unite. Plus our Scriptures (God's Word) give much practical advice on how to run a world society.
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