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The bible teaches that Jesus is the only name given...to be saved and enter Heaven. 

 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

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Until Revelations... :bigwink:

3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

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Amy wrote: Until Revelations... :bigwink:

3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

 


::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah Amy...

"Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:
      KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

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berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

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Amy wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

Hmmm.::scratch:: Allegory again I'm afraid.




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It's OK guys, no need to sweat the differences over "what name given."  God intended for these text-based systems to be tricky and confusing ... because spreading the love of God would be terrible if done in a way we all knew without doubt, where we didn't have to fight over it or be convinced of it. God would get bored, apparently.




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: Amy wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

Hmmm.::scratch:: Allegory again I'm afraid.


Hah !, JBF's get out of jail free card when being categorically contradicted by his own rulebook !

"well.......erm........um.........ALLEGORY !, YES THATS SOUNDS GOOD WILL THAT DO ?

:no::D

  

 

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cynicalninja wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Amy wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

Hmmm.::scratch:: Allegory again I'm afraid.


Hah !, JBF's get out of jail free card when being categorically contradicted by his own rulebook !

"well.......erm........um.........ALLEGORY !, YES THATS SOUNDS GOOD WILL THAT DO ?

:no::D

  

 

::wiseman:: Ha! Ha! Ha! Nothing to say again ninja?




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: cynicalninja wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Amy wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

Hmmm.::scratch:: Allegory again I'm afraid.


Hah !, JBF's get out of jail free card when being categorically contradicted by his own rulebook !

"well.......erm........um.........ALLEGORY !, YES THATS SOUNDS GOOD WILL THAT DO ?

:no::D

  

 

::wiseman:: Ha! Ha! Ha! Nothing to say again ninja?


Just enjoying watching you dig your own theological holes JBF.

Think of it as an allegory about knowing when to keep your mouth shut.

:hang:  

 

 

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cynicalninja wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: cynicalninja wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Amy wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

Hmmm.::scratch:: Allegory again I'm afraid.


Hah !, JBF's get out of jail free card when being categorically contradicted by his own rulebook !

"well.......erm........um.........ALLEGORY !, YES THATS SOUNDS GOOD WILL THAT DO ?

:no::D

  

 

::wiseman:: Ha! Ha! Ha! Nothing to say again ninja?


Just enjoying watching you dig your own theological holes JBF.

Think of it as an allegory about knowing when to keep your mouth shut.

:hang:  

 

 

When you have the context and interpretation of Revelation 2:17 could you get back to me?




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JustifiedByFaith wrote: cynicalninja wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: cynicalninja wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: Amy wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: berinwitness wrote: JustifiedByFaith wrote: ::wiseman::The name isn't Baha'u'llah

According to whom?

Where do we see "Glory Be To God" / Baha'u'llah as His new name? I only see the name "KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" written on Him (Rev 19) when He returns to earth the 2nd time...


16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

(King James Bible, Matthew)

who is the Father?  

_________________________

2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

(King James Bible, Revelation)

what must we overcome?

Hmmm.::scratch:: Allegory again I'm afraid.


Hah !, JBF's get out of jail free card when being categorically contradicted by his own rulebook !

"well.......erm........um.........ALLEGORY !, YES THATS SOUNDS GOOD WILL THAT DO ?

:no::D

  

 

::wiseman:: Ha! Ha! Ha! Nothing to say again ninja?


Just enjoying watching you dig your own theological holes JBF.

Think of it as an allegory about knowing when to keep your mouth shut.

:hang:  

 

 

When you have the context and interpretation of Revelation 2:17 could you get back to me?


Nope.

The thread did not express a requirement for such understanding of a such a bible passage, and as an Atheist the reference is meaningless.

I do however reserve the right to express my comment on anything I see fit in a free and frank (sic :D !)  forum which offers the right to reply for differing points of view from your own.

Stop digging that hole for yourself, please try to dig yourself out of it.

 

       

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See why I avoid these "discussions"? 

Like moldy bread and expired milk, they get worse over time.

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